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Let's get this clear once and for all. Ventrue and Charm both use subs as allies. Guess that means they "abuse" allies as well, right? As for Knoble, I was curious and checked out the member list: About 6-8 out of the 18 members were off-tag, so there goes the loyalty aspect.
I'll agree on US, but they are the outlier here. Can't expect every guild to be like that, especially since this server is mostly made up of younger people that don't value a guild tag.
It's odd how people defend Zanza and act as if them using allies is somehow legit. Not to mention the 5 staff member leaders and countless staff still loyal to it. Seems pretty easy to take towers when you have a never ending supply of quality people asking to join.
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no, theyre not doing subs, theyre doing guild expansions through the allies system. the limited number of guild people, which is very small, makes this necessary. they dont have a war guild, and they dont recruit temps. i dont really have a problem with subs, or guild expansions, but i think it should be done in moderation. a guild and an expansion then 4 other allies. or even 3 guilds. the point of this post is to try and get guilds to recruit loyal members. this means making as many guilds as you need, and filling them with loyal members. fill one guild and still have people who want to join? fine get another. but most guilds dont have 100 loyal members. and therefore dont need that many guilds. make your guild a little exclusive when it begins to get popular, dont recruit temps, etc. you dont want to be recruiting random people, and you dont want to immediatly make 6 guilds with your friends. take it slow. advent really doesnt need the 7 guilds it has.
and @yephen: trial period is a much better way to test people. seems like its just an excuse to recruit temps.