Let's get this clear once and for all. Ventrue and Charm both use subs as allies. Guess that means they "abuse" allies as well, right? As for Knoble, I was curious and checked out the member list: About 6-8 out of the 18 members were off-tag, so there goes the loyalty aspect.

I'll agree on US, but they are the outlier here. Can't expect every guild to be like that, especially since this server is mostly made up of younger people that don't value a guild tag.

It's odd how people defend Zanza and act as if them using allies is somehow legit. Not to mention the 5 staff member leaders and countless staff still loyal to it. Seems pretty easy to take towers when you have a never ending supply of quality people asking to join.