Wow, this is still going? I don't know why this is even an argument. Go get 25 loyal members and form an exclusive guild, or go make a family style tower guild with subs, it really doesn't matter. No need to bash each other for which style they prefer. The point of this game is to have fun, not to control how other players experience it.
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Very true, i don't see why you would stay with a guild you hated so much that you could write an essay on your dislike of it for so long but hey, to each his own. That's the whole point of guilds, if you don't like it there are plenty of other opportunities, and if there's not, you can always make your own.