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Tashkin · 01-02-2015

Original Thread: Click Here

Hello Everyone,

This is a serious discussion I would like to have with all of you. In this discussion spam or useless post will NOT be tolerated. We are here to discuss Zone and what we can do to make it truly better. In this discussion I want to know what things about Zone do players not like. What are reasons players do not come to Zone? I want honest answers and I do not want you to reply to somebody else post. I want you to simply state your reason and why you think that is the reason.

Some things I can think of are the following:

Players do not want to buy their custom uploads all over again.
Players have spent to much time on other servers.
Players have spent to much money on other servers.
Players do not like that the server has 360 Degree shooting.
Players do not want to leave their friends on the other servers.

So as stated above this is a serious discussion. Keep this clean and just post your reason why and do not respond to others. Please let me know as I want to bring Zone to the same player count as the other servers.

Comments from other players so far:

MrSimons:
Content doesn't cater to a large enough variety of players. There is virtually no roleplay capability on zone (this is being worked on as far as I have heard?...), and it eliminates a very large portion of people. I know that there are very few people on zone that enjoy role play, which is why it has never been a priority, but thats just because it is very hard to role play, so people who enjoy it aren't going to be spending any time on zone.

Unappealing interface, and difficult to use systems. Probably the biggest turn-off for everyone. One of the big things I have noticed is tiny buttons that have even tinier hit boxes, making mundane tasks hell. Personally I think it could do the server good to have an entire re-haul on its buttons and such.

Things being copied from other servers. I went to place a furniture item a couple days ago and when moving it around noticed that the layer button was literally the exact same one as on classic. Sure taking things like that from other servers isn't a problem, but at least make it look good and custom made for the server.

Kenovo:
I love iZone. I left Classic for it and never went back. Heck, I find Medieval type servers a lot more appealing to be honest, yet something about Zone had me hooked to stay. The server itself I enjoy, but I know that it's far from perfect. These are things I feel desperately need to be worked on in hopes of improving.

The Tileset
Yes, it all reminds us of Zone, it's basically the look of Zone. But is that really a good thing? I find the Tileset very unappealing, it's outdated and needs to be completely removed or cosmetically updated a lot. This could be a big turn off for new players, it's just not a pretty tileset.

The GMAP
The updates for the map have been nice and a well improvement from the ones before it. But I feel it lacks a civilization type feeling. Zone is supposed to be a community of people who have built a city in space. As of now, it looks like a giant shopping mall. What it really needs is a total revamp of the GMAP. Make it feel as if its a realistic floating monopolis. Add houses (can tie in with RolePlaying and quests etc), UNIQUE shops, a separation of buildings (currently shops and areas are bunched up and this helps add to the shopping mall feeling), towns or some sort of indication of seperations. I truly feel if the GMAP is updated along with the Tileset itd help Zone become A LOT more appealing.

UNIQUE Shops
This ties in with GMAP a bit but I thought I'd go a little more into detail. I feel like Zone needs to only have a few UNIQUELY themed shops around the entire GMAP that would provide the items Zonians want. Having a lot of random, outdated shops on the Map feels like old content and a waste of space. Instead each shop (like 5 shops entirely) could be updated periodically with new content instead of releasing an entire new shop that'll most likely be random and serving no actual purpose.

WILL EDIT THIS POST LATER AND ADD STUFF TO IT.

Rockstar:
I think we need more quests and story lines, I feel there is a lack of adventure when it comes to Zone, Era and Classic (I believe) both do Christmas and Easter and Halloween quests, during this period, their playercount does get pretty high..
Maybe something to think about..

TheRealSKT:
I think it has to do with friends. People brougt this up already but if that one person in your initial circle doesn't make the first leap then no one will follow. I mean back on classic there we're those few nalnians that were from era but no one was ever from zone. And no one ever thought about it. There was no reason to. And then I think it was Tron who decided to hop on it one day when NAL2 was starting up and he said it was fun. That got me intrigued. When I was given the guild and disbanded it... Lol... And then banned from the guild after they got it back... Lol... I had no reason to play classic. And so I already was a baller on era and went to zone. It was hella fun and I got some classic players on and they stayed with me. That's what I see most of our players as, just friends of friends. I also think that there's tons of Zera things and the whole "rip off of era" is scaring people away. Era Is a pay to win game whereas zone is a play to win. It's not at all like era and it really bugs me when people say that it is.
I also think that it's poor and lacking on the android side. Like lets break this down Just via tapatalk. Every "sent from my" sig has come from an android(so I've seen, maybe one Apple dev). Also, android users have more ram, at least if ur a mainstreamer, than apples. There's no excuse for us to have less since we can take more without lagging. I mean they fixed the leaderboards which is a step but we still don't have equal rights. #SeperateButEqualAmiiRight.
Lastly I think the skybases were a big deal. Now everyone knows why I love them. All of my squads hours were from them but beside that fact think about it. There are already indoor bases in other servers. There's already in game mini games on era. Skybases were unique to zone in the way that pyrat was unique to classic. You didn't need a huge number yo take them. It's not about skill with guns. Its about straight up yolo rushing. And with saying rushing I don't mean just using your jetpack. I mean saudix never used one, he'd always go through the fences and he still wrecked. A lot of people do like having it ezpz hours. But some crazy people love having to fend off people from taking skybases. Its the thrill that kept me on zone and if you look at tons of skybasers ever since they were removed we've all decreased our activity. You don't take half time from football so you should leave what was perfect alone.
Oh and lastly... Furniture. I know I might be the only one who cares but that's a big deal. I mean I've spent half a mil on my houses on other servers but zone lacks the furn so much I don't even bother with squad houses.

Also there are also tons of bias towards players. We probably have the best staff but honestly if you've ever crossed a staff's line even just once they don't forget it. And no one will care that I wrote this because everyone will say that it's just on the person. No lmao, *that's Lord make another ogre mind you* there are honestly certain people that we can all admit are the blandest people on the server who are just ignored by staff.

And this happens on every server due to basic human instincts of only surrounding yourself with the best, so I don't expect anything to be done to this.

01-02-2015	1
Tashkin The Tashkin Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 740	Zone Insight Original Thread: Click Here Hello Everyone, This is a serious discussion I would like to have with all of you. In this discussion spam or useless post will NOT be tolerated. We are here to discuss Zone and what we can do to make it truly better. In this discussion I want to know what things about Zone do players not like. What are reasons players do not come to Zone? I want honest answers and I do not want you to reply to somebody else post. I want you to simply state your reason and why you think that is the reason. Some things I can think of are the following: Players do not want to buy their custom uploads all over again. Players have spent to much time on other servers. Players have spent to much money on other servers. Players do not like that the server has 360 Degree shooting. Players do not want to leave their friends on the other servers. So as stated above this is a serious discussion. Keep this clean and just post your reason why and do not respond to others. Please let me know as I want to bring Zone to the same player count as the other servers. Comments from other players so far: MrSimons: Content doesn't cater to a large enough variety of players. There is virtually no roleplay capability on zone (this is being worked on as far as I have heard?...), and it eliminates a very large portion of people. I know that there are very few people on zone that enjoy role play, which is why it has never been a priority, but thats just because it is very hard to role play, so people who enjoy it aren't going to be spending any time on zone. Unappealing interface, and difficult to use systems. Probably the biggest turn-off for everyone. One of the big things I have noticed is tiny buttons that have even tinier hit boxes, making mundane tasks hell. Personally I think it could do the server good to have an entire re-haul on its buttons and such. Things being copied from other servers. I went to place a furniture item a couple days ago and when moving it around noticed that the layer button was literally the exact same one as on classic. Sure taking things like that from other servers isn't a problem, but at least make it look good and custom made for the server. Kenovo: I love iZone. I left Classic for it and never went back. Heck, I find Medieval type servers a lot more appealing to be honest, yet something about Zone had me hooked to stay. The server itself I enjoy, but I know that it's far from perfect. These are things I feel desperately need to be worked on in hopes of improving. The Tileset Yes, it all reminds us of Zone, it's basically the look of Zone. But is that really a good thing? I find the Tileset very unappealing, it's outdated and needs to be completely removed or cosmetically updated a lot. This could be a big turn off for new players, it's just not a pretty tileset. The GMAP The updates for the map have been nice and a well improvement from the ones before it. But I feel it lacks a civilization type feeling. Zone is supposed to be a community of people who have built a city in space. As of now, it looks like a giant shopping mall. What it really needs is a total revamp of the GMAP. Make it feel as if its a realistic floating monopolis. Add houses (can tie in with RolePlaying and quests etc), UNIQUE shops, a separation of buildings (currently shops and areas are bunched up and this helps add to the shopping mall feeling), towns or some sort of indication of seperations. I truly feel if the GMAP is updated along with the Tileset itd help Zone become A LOT more appealing. UNIQUE Shops This ties in with GMAP a bit but I thought I'd go a little more into detail. I feel like Zone needs to only have a few UNIQUELY themed shops around the entire GMAP that would provide the items Zonians want. Having a lot of random, outdated shops on the Map feels like old content and a waste of space. Instead each shop (like 5 shops entirely) could be updated periodically with new content instead of releasing an entire new shop that'll most likely be random and serving no actual purpose. WILL EDIT THIS POST LATER AND ADD STUFF TO IT. Rockstar: I think we need more quests and story lines, I feel there is a lack of adventure when it comes to Zone, Era and Classic (I believe) both do Christmas and Easter and Halloween quests, during this period, their playercount does get pretty high.. Maybe something to think about.. TheRealSKT: I think it has to do with friends. People brougt this up already but if that one person in your initial circle doesn't make the first leap then no one will follow. I mean back on classic there we're those few nalnians that were from era but no one was ever from zone. And no one ever thought about it. There was no reason to. And then I think it was Tron who decided to hop on it one day when NAL2 was starting up and he said it was fun. That got me intrigued. When I was given the guild and disbanded it... Lol... And then banned from the guild after they got it back... Lol... I had no reason to play classic. And so I already was a baller on era and went to zone. It was hella fun and I got some classic players on and they stayed with me. That's what I see most of our players as, just friends of friends. I also think that there's tons of Zera things and the whole "rip off of era" is scaring people away. Era Is a pay to win game whereas zone is a play to win. It's not at all like era and it really bugs me when people say that it is. I also think that it's poor and lacking on the android side. Like lets break this down Just via tapatalk. Every "sent from my" sig has come from an android(so I've seen, maybe one Apple dev). Also, android users have more ram, at least if ur a mainstreamer, than apples. There's no excuse for us to have less since we can take more without lagging. I mean they fixed the leaderboards which is a step but we still don't have equal rights. #SeperateButEqualAmiiRight. Lastly I think the skybases were a big deal. Now everyone knows why I love them. All of my squads hours were from them but beside that fact think about it. There are already indoor bases in other servers. There's already in game mini games on era. Skybases were unique to zone in the way that pyrat was unique to classic. You didn't need a huge number yo take them. It's not about skill with guns. Its about straight up yolo rushing. And with saying rushing I don't mean just using your jetpack. I mean saudix never used one, he'd always go through the fences and he still wrecked. A lot of people do like having it ezpz hours. But some crazy people love having to fend off people from taking skybases. Its the thrill that kept me on zone and if you look at tons of skybasers ever since they were removed we've all decreased our activity. You don't take half time from football so you should leave what was perfect alone. Oh and lastly... Furniture. I know I might be the only one who cares but that's a big deal. I mean I've spent half a mil on my houses on other servers but zone lacks the furn so much I don't even bother with squad houses. Also there are also tons of bias towards players. We probably have the best staff but honestly if you've ever crossed a staff's line even just once they don't forget it. And no one will care that I wrote this because everyone will say that it's just on the person. No lmao, that's Lord make another ogre mind you there are honestly certain people that we can all admit are the blandest people on the server who are just ignored by staff. And this happens on every server due to basic human instincts of only surrounding yourself with the best, so I don't expect anything to be done to this.