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Azrael · 01-03-2012

Dusty pretty much sums it up. Thor has done pretty much nothing in terms of Classic. In fact, the copy of Classic that iClassic is built off of is pre-Thor. He had nothing to do with it development wise at that time.

I can honestly say that I did do some of the work back in the day that made it in one of the packs we used to fuse together iClassic. This was not my idea. I was requested to do this, so don't try to whine at me about it. We have done more with less in regards to our version of Classic than any other version.

Oh yes, there has been many versions of Classic. Every manager to step foot on Classic PC changed the server. Thor insisting that what we used was his couldn't be any wronger. Thor is Manager of Classic PC - not owner. Stefan is owner, and has the right to do whatever the heck he wants. If Stefan decides to turn Classic PC to a brownish-poop color, then so be it. Nobody can do anything. Likewise, if Stefan decides to turn iClassic PC into pink and purple hearts and clouds, then so be it. I can't say I'd stick around for either, but hey.

To top it off, we haven't released much "Classic" content. What we have, we (I) have had to go through level by level to ensure each script is GS2. Development is slow due to this, and the fact that we have to support two servers that are different enough that it takes double the amount of time to do work.

UN style? There's no such thing. The tile styling that Unholy Nation utilizes is a combination of old and new. That server didn't hop out of the womb like that - in its early days, it looked exactly like Classic. Developers eventually moved to the style that is dubbed "UN" or "New". Tell me, is Zodiac using "UN Style"?

Please, if you're going to comment on how servers turn out, then read up on your history a bit. I can guarantee you that you know less about Classic than I do. I have been around these parts for the better part of 13 years. I started and loved the hell out of Classic. That's my home. iClassic is not Classic. It's a hybrid.

Sometimes I think Thor is funny. Most of the time I think he takes it too far. Nobody likes to listen to someone complain non-stop, and frankly, that's usually what I see from him when I venture onto the Graal forums - a rare endeavor. If it is about him missing Stefan's attention, well, suck it up. Stefan has his agenda and goes where he wants. I can't say that every time I ask him to work on a project he has time to do it. You don't see me whining or crying to the world. He's accomplished some cool, neat stuff on Classic. But frankly, the server is dead. I wish nothing more to see it rise from the ashes, but there's just no hope there. The minute a server is taken off of Classic Hosting, it's done. That's how things roll. I have seen some awesome servers come and go based solely on this.

tl;dr: Stop trying to make a point in an argument that you have absolutely no knowledge of.

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Azrael Zanza Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 426	Dusty pretty much sums it up. Thor has done pretty much nothing in terms of Classic. In fact, the copy of Classic that iClassic is built off of is pre-Thor. He had nothing to do with it development wise at that time. I can honestly say that I did do some of the work back in the day that made it in one of the packs we used to fuse together iClassic. This was not my idea. I was requested to do this, so don't try to whine at me about it. We have done more with less in regards to our version of Classic than any other version. Oh yes, there has been many versions of Classic. Every manager to step foot on Classic PC changed the server. Thor insisting that what we used was his couldn't be any wronger. Thor is Manager of Classic PC - not owner. Stefan is owner, and has the right to do whatever the heck he wants. If Stefan decides to turn Classic PC to a brownish-poop color, then so be it. Nobody can do anything. Likewise, if Stefan decides to turn iClassic PC into pink and purple hearts and clouds, then so be it. I can't say I'd stick around for either, but hey. To top it off, we haven't released much "Classic" content. What we have, we (I) have had to go through level by level to ensure each script is GS2. Development is slow due to this, and the fact that we have to support two servers that are different enough that it takes double the amount of time to do work. UN style? There's no such thing. The tile styling that Unholy Nation utilizes is a combination of old and new. That server didn't hop out of the womb like that - in its early days, it looked exactly like Classic. Developers eventually moved to the style that is dubbed "UN" or "New". Tell me, is Zodiac using "UN Style"? Please, if you're going to comment on how servers turn out, then read up on your history a bit. I can guarantee you that you know less about Classic than I do. I have been around these parts for the better part of 13 years. I started and loved the hell out of Classic. That's my home. iClassic is not Classic. It's a hybrid. Sometimes I think Thor is funny. Most of the time I think he takes it too far. Nobody likes to listen to someone complain non-stop, and frankly, that's usually what I see from him when I venture onto the Graal forums - a rare endeavor. If it is about him missing Stefan's attention, well, suck it up. Stefan has his agenda and goes where he wants. I can't say that every time I ask him to work on a project he has time to do it. You don't see me whining or crying to the world. He's accomplished some cool, neat stuff on Classic. But frankly, the server is dead. I wish nothing more to see it rise from the ashes, but there's just no hope there. The minute a server is taken off of Classic Hosting, it's done. That's how things roll. I have seen some awesome servers come and go based solely on this. tl;dr: Stop trying to make a point in an argument that you have absolutely no knowledge of.