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zzz
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: WA USA
Posts: 9,232
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Great. Now that you've shared your thoughts on which device is the best to spar on, understand the the majority of this thread has nothing to do with that.
This thread is primarily a discussion of iDevice players claiming that sparring from the PC is "unfair." Since you've chosen to go down this route, I'll do the same:
The word "unfair" is not an opinion word. Please realize that before we progress in this one-on-one conversation. I can have the "opinion" that something is unfair, but fact and extremely basic logic can prove that it is most definitely fair, completely invalidating my "opinion" and causing me to look like an idiot. It's almost like trying to say, "It's my opinion that apples are the color orange." Maybe to your eyes they may look that way because you're misinterpreting the color or you just don't know what you're talking about, but trust me, we can prove that the apple is red.
Graal supports multiple devices for any and every user. It is a constant. It is the same for everyone. That is the very definition of fair.
You seem to be responding more sensibly than GOAT and the others, so let me try to juice more answers out of you:
Do you agree that it is fair for any player to be able to decide what device they want to spar on rather than being forced to select one?
If you answered yes, congratulations! You've just agreed with every single part of my argument. If you answered no, please read this post and reconsider your answer.
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For one, the apple is green, perhaps even yellow.
Unfair IS an opinion word. Want me to prove it? check the spoiler, if you don't care then skip it
Spoiler
Lets take another opinion word, dirty.
http://www.thomasmeares.com/photogallery/Traditional%20African%20Houses.JPG (Unsupported image host) Now, most people would consider a living situation such as this to be dirty with dirt floors and mud walls. However, for some people this is normal, they eat off the floor, they drink from muddy water. To them it is not dirty, it is everyday life. It is normal. Dirty is a word that is used as judgement, not observation. An observation of this picture would be facts such as the floor is dirt, the roof is straw, etc. As soon as you put opinion into it, it becomes a biased statement.
Now that you have that concept on your mind, lets take the word unfair. Now, for someone it may be unfair that their older brother gets to stay up later than they do, but maybe for other younger brothers it is seen as fair seeing as they are older. Really, the term fair and unfair could be used in numerous examples that prove to be based on bias and PERSONAL EXPERIENCES . Some people have seen things others have not and can base their opinion using knowledge not everyone has. Is it fair that america exploits illegal aliens? Is it fair that the US even has a border to begin with whereas other countries (not many) let people in willy nilly? Is it fair that people in mexico have to live in a drugged out environment that America keeps them in because of border policies? Some would say yes, others would say no baised on personal beliefs and experiences. "unfair" IS an opinion word.
Now for what I personally believe, is there not rooms where iDevice and PC players can spar each other? IMO there should be at least one of each, iOS vs PC, PC vs PC, iOS vs iOS. That way people can choose what they want based on what they personally believe to be fair or unfair 
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I tell Person A, "Would you like to use a knife or a gun?" He picks a gun.
I tell Person B, "Would you like to use a knife or a gun?" He picks a knife.
Person A and Person B fight. Person A shoots Person B in the head before he can even get within distance to stab him.
Following the logic of a huge portion of this thread, you would claim that the fight was unfair. But can you explain how it was unfair when both were given the exact same choice?
Person B chose the knife. Does this elementary analogy do it for you? Can you now see why I think some of you are just flat out whiners and idiots for choosing to use the iDevice when you claim that the PC is obviously better?
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invalid really, some people are forced to play on one or the other because their iPod broke or their computer is fried. This does not apply to everyone, so really this point makes no sense.
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