Sigh. Keep this thread alive and on topic next time guys. It is too much work to delete the 100+ replies this thread got. 98% of them being a flame war. And don't feel bad. Ash is the one who had to post an ignorant comment in the first place that did not relate to this thread. It's not just his fault too. In other words, I forgive you all. No matter how harshly this thread was thrown down into the ground. 
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Especially it being the 2nd time he did it.... Eh, I still feel bad.
Don't delete the thread or replies though please admins.... A lot of thought, time and energy was put into these long posts... At least just lock it and let it remain as an example for other nubs that pick flame fights lol