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HomoPanda 07-31-2012 01:45 AM

What i don't understand...
 
The red crab dagger beats a kiwi/hunter.....how does a free item that everyone in era probably has, beat a kiwi/hunter that suppose to be a rare/great melee?
i don't understand how the red crab dagger gets 8 damage and knockback while the kiwi gets simply 9 damage...seems legit

Berries 07-31-2012 01:49 AM

Ask them why the kiwi/hunter does 9 and is 20 EC while the other melees are 30 EC and do 8.
It's probably because people complain all day about not being able to get EC items so they make free stuff. Like the candy cane. Free and does 9 damage.

Ace 07-31-2012 01:55 AM

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Posted by Berries (Post 170766)
Ask them why the kiwi/hunter does 9 and is 20 EC while the other melees are 30 EC and do 8.
It's probably because people complain all day about not being able to get EC items so they make free stuff. Like the candy cane. Free and does 9 damage.

Katana and Bamboo can go on your back. Duh

KeN(Best) 07-31-2012 01:55 AM

Guns/melees will never be balanced.

Berries 07-31-2012 02:05 AM

K show me where katana is 30 EC. I meant hyrule dagger and mace etc.

neon 07-31-2012 02:08 AM

HomoPanda I simply love you for this. I've been saying this for sooo long how it's not fair how they give away all these spd daggers for free when older players actually had to work hard or buy in auction to get. I paid 80k for hunter so long ago and now it's not even special anymore because they watered down the greatness of it with several free items. It's annoying.

PoeticFolly 07-31-2012 02:18 AM

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Posted by Berries (Post 170766)
Ask them why the kiwi/hunter does 9 and is 20 EC while the other melees are 30 EC and do 8.
It's probably because people complain all day about not being able to get EC items so they make free stuff. Like the candy cane. Free and does 9 damage.

The 30 EC melees are also quite a lot faster than the kiwi and hunts doing more DPS.

Berries 07-31-2012 02:29 AM

Actually I think snake rekon said they're just for show. Damage per second doesn't matter when everyone has 50 Hp because there's a slight invincibility phase between hits. Very slight but when the difference of damage is only 1 it doesn't matter anyways. When hitting a vault at a gang base, it may matter. But when you say it's quite a lot faster, I have to disagree. I've seen them used and the speed is nearly the same as other daggers.

HomoPanda 07-31-2012 02:44 AM

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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 170776)
The 30 EC melees are also quite a lot faster than the kiwi and hunts doing more DPS.

kiwi/hunter can beat a katana/bamboo
free daggers can beat kiwi/hunter which entitles them to beat hunter/bamboo

Berries 07-31-2012 02:56 AM

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Posted by HomoPanda (Post 170793)
kiwi/hunter can beat a katana/bamboo
free daggers can beat kiwi/hunter which entitles them to beat hunter/bamboo

Most legit post of the day.

poorface 07-31-2012 03:14 AM

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Posted by HomoPanda (Post 170793)
kiwi/hunter can beat a katana/bamboo
free daggers can beat kiwi/hunter which entitles them to beat hunter/bamboo

Fight back with your own free stuff...and technically, the ec items are somewhat free...

vnio 07-31-2012 03:18 AM

Quote:

Posted by HomoPanda (Post 170764)
The red crab dagger beats a kiwi/hunter.....how does a free item that everyone in era probably has, beat a kiwi/hunter that suppose to be a rare/great melee?
i don't understand how the red crab dagger gets 7 damage,spin,and knockback while the kiwi gets simply 9 damage...seems legit


HomoPanda 07-31-2012 05:24 AM

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Posted by poorface (Post 170811)
Fight back with your own free stuff...and technically, the ec items are somewhat free...

Thats not the point, i didn't spend time winning 16 man spar for my kiwi just so a free melee can be better.
EC items are not free, you have play events and pay with ec's to get them

Mofujohn 07-31-2012 04:49 PM

I was thinking the same thing. In this case, the damage doesn't matter. It's the knockback that makes it better. It's really annoying that I can't even use my kiwi anymore because I can never win with it.

XENA* 07-31-2012 08:18 PM

True


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