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licoriice 08-19-2018 09:52 PM

Meditate
 
Could the Meditate GST item recieve a chat command? Similar to how the “booty shake” GST item has :taunt, the Chair, :chair etc. etc, quality of life.

Chuli Skotos 08-20-2018 12:39 AM

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Posted by licoriice (Post 817025)
Could the Meditate GST item recieve a chat command? Similar to how the “booty shake” GST item has :taunt, the Chair, :chair etc. etc, quality of life.

I would also like this. The problem is that people would use it in spars. basically healing themselves. Although I don't see how this would be possible as it takes like 15 seconds just to get 1 tick... How are you gonna be standing still 15 seconds without the other person Hitting you? Not sure..

They could simply just remove gst items from being used in a spar. And add :meditate...

Raeven 08-20-2018 03:55 AM

well when a lagger freezes for almost 1 minute you can but idk how hard is it to disable on spar rooms

licoriice 08-20-2018 05:36 AM

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Posted by Raeven (Post 817051)
idk how hard is it to disable on spar rooms

I would assume it wouldn't be too difficult since they are able to disable everything else.

Rusix 08-20-2018 07:59 AM

While I agree meditate should have a chat command, I'd like to use my meditate time to time without switching icon.

But as Chuli stated, You could use this in a very unfair method in spar. However one thing id like to correct he said is it is 10 seconds per 0.5, so in 1 minute you can heal back to 3.0 health. But how it can be used without getting hit is fairly simple. Anyone with understanding of how graal's damage is done could use meditate to heal without risk. For example if you just made a simple lagswitch, Turned off wifi for 10 seconds, Used meditate and turned it back on you wont take damage and you'll heal 0.5... Simply put, Making people with Meditate vastly close to immortal in spar...But overall, They don't really need a chat command

Crono 08-20-2018 02:11 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 817056)
While I agree meditate should have a chat command, I'd like to use my meditate time to time without switching icon.

But as Chuli stated, You could use this in a very unfair method in spar. However one thing id like to correct he said is it is 10 seconds per 0.5, so in 1 minute you can heal back to 3.0 health. But how it can be used without getting hit is fairly simple. Anyone with understanding of how graal's damage is done could use meditate to heal without risk. For example if you just made a simple lagswitch, Turned off wifi for 10 seconds, Used meditate and turned it back on you wont take damage and you'll heal 0.5... Simply put, Making people with Meditate vastly close to immortal in spar...But overall, They don't really need a chat command

Or just disable its use in the spar arenas...

GOAT 08-20-2018 03:44 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 817056)
While I agree meditate should have a chat command, I'd like to use my meditate time to time without switching icon.

But as Chuli stated, You could use this in a very unfair method in spar. However one thing id like to correct he said is it is 10 seconds per 0.5, so in 1 minute you can heal back to 3.0 health. But how it can be used without getting hit is fairly simple. Anyone with understanding of how graal's damage is done could use meditate to heal without risk. For example if you just made a simple lagswitch, Turned off wifi for 10 seconds, Used meditate and turned it back on you wont take damage and you'll heal 0.5... Simply put, Making people with Meditate vastly close to immortal in spar...But overall, They don't really need a chat command

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Posted by Rusix (Post 816913)
Not entirely lagging, I know what he is doing. It really has nothing to do with lag at all.

All he is doing is playing on an Android device, Once he finds a place he wants to remain and block he will swipe down at the top of his screen and pull down the notification tab and remain doing that for really however long he pleases or gets warped. There isn't really anything devs can do to fix this as they can't entirely stop what pulling down the notification bar does or atleast i assume not as this was a method people use to cheat in things like the snake event. But i'm for what Zorma Knight said, Making bigger entrances would make this extremely more difficult

And somehow you have no idea how an American player can have worse delay than queen Sarah :D

Chuli Skotos 08-20-2018 08:58 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 817065)
Or just disable its use in the spar arenas...

That's what I said :D

Saeed 08-20-2018 10:31 PM

I actually suggest to disable all of the GST commands from being used in-spar

Rusix 08-20-2018 11:37 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 817069)
And somehow you have no idea how an American player can have worse delay than queen Sarah :D

Not entirely sure where you came up to that conclusion, Especially considering ive actually listed dozens of ways of how delay could be legitimately made. I did work as a CTA assistant for about 6 years now for my school and for other places. But if i need to remind and make a list to 20 most basic reasons that delay or lag can happen and how it isn't based on your country for however that flawed process of thought ever became to be is beyond me.

GOAT 08-21-2018 02:53 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 817084)
Not entirely sure where you came up to that conclusion, Especially considering ive actually listed dozens of ways of how delay could be legitimately made. I did work as a CTA assistant for about 6 years now for my school and for other places. But if i need to remind and make a list to 20 most basic reasons that delay or lag can happen and how it isn't based on your country for however that flawed process of thought ever became to be is beyond me.

My bad dude I forgot some players live in the forest next to the 3 little pigs.


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Posted by Rusix (Post 817084)
Not entirely sure where you came up to that conclusion, Especially considering ive actually listed dozens of ways of how delay could be legitimately made. I did work as a CTA assistant for about 6 years now for my school and for other places. But if i need to remind and make a list to 20 most basic reasons that delay or lag can happen and how it isn't based on your country for however that flawed process of thought ever became to be is beyond me.

I'm not the smartest guy here by any means, but I think the correlation people make between delay and a country is the distance info travels?

^---Look I don't even know if I used correlation correctly.

Rusix 08-21-2018 03:10 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 817092)
My bad dude I forgot some players live in the forest next to the 3 little pigs.



I'm not the smartest guy here by any means, but I think the correlation people make between delay and a country is the distance info travels?

^---Look I don't even know if I used correlation correctly.

For one, I live in a deadzone. Nothing to do really with pigs.

While you are correct that country to distance, However that is only 1 of literally hundreds of possibilities of things that can cause delay or lag. Take for example you could have a very crappy ISP like Cricket, And you could get a very laggy and delayed network even despite being in the city. Even at home WiFi can be effected by dial up, Ethernet cable length, and a mass of more possibilities and changes that can drastically alter your internet speed. For me however i live too far from any ISP i am able to get so data is delivered far slower than if i lived in town. Same concept as why you won't likely get Data in the middle of the ocean or in the desert because aliens dropped you off there for whatever reason.

But people in graal ( Granted i'll give them a little bit of a break since most dont know much about how wifi or data even woks) But pretty much 99% of them think that whatever country you're in determines your internet speed, Which is absolutely flawed because i've seen even Brazilians have faster internet on graal than even USA players on a rare occasion

licoriice 08-21-2018 04:42 AM

If you care enough to use a lagswitch in order to gain health in a spar battle you need to wake up to yourself TBH. Rusix I believe this is an example of you over analysing something once again.

Rusix 08-21-2018 06:12 AM

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Posted by licoriice (Post 817100)
If you care enough to use a lagswitch in order to gain health in a spar battle you need to wake up to yourself TBH. Rusix I believe this is an example of you over analysing something once again.

Except for you cannot lagswitch to gain health, I'm only stating what would happen if it could be used in spar. It's not an over analyzing situation

GOAT 08-21-2018 09:45 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 817097)
For one, I live in a deadzone. Nothing to do really with pigs.

While you are correct that country to distance, However that is only 1 of literally hundreds of possibilities of things that can cause delay or lag. Take for example you could have a very crappy ISP like Cricket, And you could get a very laggy and delayed network even despite being in the city. Even at home WiFi can be effected by dial up, Ethernet cable length, and a mass of more possibilities and changes that can drastically alter your internet speed. For me however i live too far from any ISP i am able to get so data is delivered far slower than if i lived in town. Same concept as why you won't likely get Data in the middle of the ocean or in the desert because aliens dropped you off there for whatever reason.

But people in graal ( Granted i'll give them a little bit of a break since most dont know much about how wifi or data even woks) But pretty much 99% of them think that whatever country you're in determines your internet speed, Which is absolutely flawed because i've seen even Brazilians have faster internet on graal than even USA players on a rare occasion

Here’s some food for thought <—- think that’s how it goes
In your expert opinion how much % would the distance to a server contribute to delay?
Well in comparison to the other hundreds of things that affect it. Just curious I’ve never had a conversation with a delay expert.

Personally I think that if your internet situation is that bad you wouldn’t be able to stay connected to the net let alone finish a spar with out constantly freezing. Js since I’m a novice at understanding the net


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