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BrandonGraal 12-09-2017 09:23 PM

Ties in spar issue
 
I know ties has always been funky, never seem to work correct, last month or 2 has seemed to be a real pest when i spar. Sometimes i count the amount of ties i can get. One day i made 12 ties(we both died) out of of those 9 were counted as loses. Seems to bother me with higher ping players. I recently vs jumbo got 2-3 ties all counted loses. Which he got a 34 win streak with 4-5 total ties from players. Only takes effect during the day time est. Lmk if had the same issue or i just have crap luck. Thanks! If so would like to see it fixed if can.

DoubleliftGraal 12-09-2017 09:32 PM

This kind of issue will never get fixed unless every single player has the exact number of ping. But considering people like jimbo, sarah, and way much more, you just gotta deal with it.

Sarah_ 12-09-2017 09:54 PM

Don’t bring me into this. People say my delay is bad when I barely even delay and I def don’t have as much ping as jimbo I sparred him today and I had 185 ms that’s probably the lowest I’ve been.
I get 200-350 in average and that’s not bad at all. When someone tie hit with me .5 vs .5 it ties, I never win.

alexx 12-10-2017 03:37 AM

Saying the tie thing is caused by high ping delay is pure bs. I’ve lost double the amount of ties vs americans then what I have won. This isn’t a issue with other people’s delay, it’s caused by the server.

Rusix 12-10-2017 08:17 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 803330)
Don’t bring me into this. People say my delay is bad when I barely even delay and I def don’t have as much ping as jimbo I sparred him today and I had 185 ms that’s probably the lowest I’ve been.
I get 200-350 in average and that’s not bad at all. When someone tie hit with me .5 vs .5 it ties, I never win.

I think it's hard for you to actually and realistically realize how much you delay because in a Delayers eyes it is a bit hard to pinpoint unless you give the time to test it out, My MS is usually around 250-300 anymore. My delay as I calculated several times with a stop watch and recording is only by 1.15 or 1.25 seconds. which may not sound like a lot but you have to realize how much distance you can cover in that small spar box you are put in to spar. You can usually move from one end of a spar box and maybe halfway to the other side. Or maybe more if your delay isn't consistent. I myself have hit someone at .5 while they hit me at .5 and we both tie, Doesn't really mean my delay isn't large. It's prob like Alexx said. Server issues.

When you get known all around BA for delay, You prob delay more than you realize.Can you help it? Probably not.

Sarah_ 12-10-2017 09:11 PM

Rusix you out of everyone shouldn't be talking about delay. You are a proven liar (that fake record you posted) and a fake delayer. You are American and im telling you, you have the worst delay out of all the sparrers on graal and i can prove this EASILY I have sparred you before and i know what i'm talking about. If you people don't believe just spar that rusix guy and upload it, his delay is just terrible, guy gets hit 1h after you hit the spot when u are miles away but he sucks bad even with that delay i flawed him in a series.
You shouldn't even have 300 ms while in the USA, i'm french and i get 180-350 ms.

ANYWAY, probably 5 years ago i had bad delay but I have changed my wifi since 3 years or something like that, ever since my delay hasn't been bad at all but people got that image of me as a bad delayer cause long time ago but most of my wins weren't from that period and i got better ever since i changed my wifi.
My point is I barely delay now and you can check the GST videos for proof. People like to call me a bad delayer when they lose as an excuse so they feel better about themselves but sry no one on graal is good enough for me and i have been beating everyone for years whether it was a delayer or not and whether I delay or slightly. You people need to stop whining and get good bc when you spar a delayer you both spar under the same conditions, the delayer has to predict you and you have to predict the delayer and the prediction time is the same for both but you all are tooooo stupid to realize that no wonder nobody has good ratios.

Alex </3 (Glorious) kept saying that im unhittable during the gst and that i delay badly to get me dqed but TRUTH IS THAT I BARELY DELAY, WATCH THE VIDEO??


Back to the thread, during my sparring time, my ties were always ties after they introduced the tie system (before, delayers won the ties) and it seems like many are having what brandon is experiencing now so I think its broken. Or maybe only at nights since that's the peak, many ppl etc...

Rusix 12-10-2017 09:39 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 803413)
Rusix you out of everyone shouldn't be talking about delay. You are a proven liar (that fake record you posted) and a fake delayer. You are American and im telling you, you have the worst delay out of all the sparrers on graal and i can prove this EASILY I have sparred you before and i know what i'm talking about. If you people don't believe just spar that rusix guy and upload it, his delay is just terrible, guy gets hit 1h after you hit the spot when u are miles away but he sucks bad even with that delay i flawed him in a series.
You shouldn't even have 300 ms while in the USA, i'm french and i get 180-350 ms.

ANYWAY, probably 5 years ago i had bad delay but i have changed my wifi since 3 years or something like that and since my delay isn't bad at all but people got that image of me as a bad delayer cause long time ago but most of my wins wasn't from that period and i got better ever since i changed my wifi.
My point is I barely delay now and you can check the GST videos for proof. People like to call me a bad delayer when they lose as an excuse so they feel better about themselves but sry no one on graal is good enough for me and i have been beating everyone for years whether it was a delayer or not and whether I delay or slightly.

Alex </3 (Glorious) kept saying that im unhittable during the gst and that i delay badly to get me dqed but TRUTH IS THAT I BARELY DELAY, WATCH THE VIDEO??

I believe I already explained the spar record? Like dozens of times now? And secondly we have never actually legitimately series each other before? If anything please upload this series we had at some apparent point. Only time we spar was when you came to the top spar room and then you just yelled Hacker and some ****. And just because you're American doesn't mean you can't delay lmao that's literal logic of someone who never took CTA classes which is common anymore because it is 2017 going on 2018 and goes by graal's broken logic of how delay or lag works. and no my delay isn't the worse. Far from it. I've easily seen a few people who have legitimately delayed way worse than I do, 1 person even 8 seconds and they are American.

And I'm not trying to smack down on you if you do delay either, Personally I wouldn't care if you do or not. And if you don't delay it would just make sense why you would remove it. Because although yes it does make it harder to hit you but it also makes it harder for you to hit others, because you'd have to not only predict where they are gonna be in X amount of seconds but you also have to avoid the person enough to not be taking hit after hit. That's why I said before and I'll say it again the more you delay the actual harder it will be because if they are in any sense smart and understanding of delay. You may not be able to land a single blow because likely hood is after 3 or so seconds. You probably cannot accurately and truly predict where they are going for relatively experienced sparrers. Which will lead to you being easily beaten or you just barely able to stalemate against them by being defensive as hell.

That's why if you did truly get better internet and don't delay anymore that it would make sense for you to do that. Because while it is nice in many people's eyes to not be easily hit. It isn't worth it if it is after around 3 seconds. Because all you'd have to do is just not attack their character and attack everywhere their character isn't at. Unless you just become a god in predicting where each sparrer is no matter what (Which if you did you probably wouldn't need delay).

Fulgore 12-10-2017 09:53 PM

not reading either of those walls of text, but Rusix delays far worse than Sarah does, and I have noticed some weird interactions in spar lately even outside of the ties at the end of the spars. Not sure what could really be causing it other than possible Christmas server bugging out a little bit under the stress.

Rusix 12-10-2017 10:37 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 803416)
not reading either of those walls of text, but Rusix delays far worse than Sarah does, and I have noticed some weird interactions in spar lately even outside of the ties at the end of the spars. Not sure what could really be causing it other than possible Christmas server bugging out a little bit under the stress.

Ik I delay worse lmao And I think there is some bug going around. There have been more of 3 people in spar (or 4) and people getting back into a spar when they lost. Christmas bugs lol.

Jimbo 12-10-2017 11:13 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 803413)





Back to the thread, .

No lets not go back to the thread, lets discuss instead which is the winner
Your level of cringe or stupidity

RyanB 12-11-2017 01:28 AM

rusix *** up lmao you ****ing sideroom

Rusix 12-11-2017 01:37 AM

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Posted by RyanB (Post 803427)
rusix *** up lmao you ****ing sideroom

I don't even side room, Send any screenshot of me in the sideroom. You will probably never find one because I'm never in either. Because I only spar in the top spar room wherever I do feel up to sparring and. And on rare occasions the very bottom main room but that's only on extremely rare occasions last time I did was when Alexx was there. And he beat me pretty easily, I don't like waiting nor got the time to wait 2-5 minutes per spar that's why you'd never find me in side rooms which is why I'm 100% certain you'd never find a legitimate screenshot of me ever in one. Even though I don't spar often as I used to back then I still don't have the patience for the wait

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 803423)
No lets not go back to the thread, lets discuss instead which is the winner
Your level of cringe or stupidity

And here is Jimbo being a savage. Although most people don't seem to like Jimbo from what I see. I enjoy reading his savage comments.

BrandonGraal 12-12-2017 08:31 AM

First time opening this since i made it, ill just take its server issues and bad luck with the amount of L ties ive got lately. Thanks.

Zideruic 12-12-2017 05:01 PM

Happened to me sparring someone in GH the other day, but I won like...3-4 ties. So its definitely not only delayers. Seems like if one of the server spikes happens during the last slash its sort of just a dice roll.

Westbrook Graal 12-12-2017 05:52 PM

Sarah help me with math so i have to take her side in this. Also to be honest, if someone delays due to living in lets say saudi arabia, roasting them is stupid cuz they have no control over where they live and how the server works. Also, on the topic of the server and sparring rn, ive seen tons of abnormalities and spar has felt sorta wierd. The ties as well do seem sorta weird. Like i’ll clearly win but get a tie, or clearly tie but one of us gets a win. Tons of lag, crashing, and glitches in spar rn as well like people resurrecting into the match after dieing or the queue button lagging out and queue resetting, like when jimbo got his 40 streak and then mex ended it, we all lagged out like 20 times and rhe queue emptied itself and wouldnt work. Also, ive seen 3 people or only one person inside of the ring sometimes due to lag.

As for rusix, i find ur argument sorta unlikely. Living in a dead zone in america would produce unstable and laggy connection im sure, rather then a stable delay.


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