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Shad 12-05-2017 12:52 AM

Hackers in Battle Arena
 
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Can someone ban this kid. Not sure who he is but I’m sure he toggles god mode on and off when he’s sparring. If anyone’s sparred him or seen him, you’ll notice that he stops all the sudden for a good second and then becomes unhittable lol.

It’s not Bel btw. He changes his name often like every hour. Luckily I was able to add him cuz he’d always leave main room and then come back with a new look and name.

Fulgore 12-05-2017 01:13 AM

been 3 days, no ban even tho I've reported him

DoubleliftGraal 12-05-2017 01:16 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 802909)
been 3 days, no ban even tho I've reported him

Im not sure how this works but i dont think they can trace his every movements so if he's careful enough, he can evade being banned by reports.

Rusix 12-05-2017 01:32 AM

Never seen him, in the top spar room. But if I happen to I'll see if he is godmodding. And report. One trick i found when sparring Godmodders in the past who remove their hitbox is that they become more "hasty" they give that feeling where you know that they know they cant be hit which is why they make more drastic moves that wouldn't exactly be normal for a low health person.(like running right at you when you spam sword and hitting you while they dont get hit).

Plus as DoubleLift said. Admins cant trace your moves. Infact according to Coco in another thread. Graal cannot even detect a third party app on screen. Despite even Zone can tell if you're speed hacking. Era has a good anti Ifile system. Classic on the other hand? We was able to put a message on the screen when your farming to prevent bots! How effective was this? Stopped anyone who didnt know how to set up a simple aimbot! Which given how easy it is. Not hard at all. So we can all sit back and laugh knowing Classic is screwed on so many levels when it comes to hacking and making anti-hacks. probably why XYZ is gonna be the new god of graal.

Saeed 12-05-2017 08:49 AM

You’re making a big deal out of it @Rusix. If you hit him on your screen from the side and it didn’t register then he is toggling godmode.
One time I messaged TeeDee to come (few months ago) this guy didn’t even ban him lol. TeeDee queued on his admin account when he was invisible, when the match started obviously he was invisible and it was just that hacker on the ring. Teedee landed a hit on him while invisible and it obviously registered because the hacker’s godmode was off. Then Teedee assumed he wasn’t hacking in the other matches too and left BA without baning him lol... .It was a different hacker

4-Lom 12-05-2017 11:42 AM

You have to take into account that lag can cause you to 'hit' him on your screen and not have the damage register, as well. Not to say the guy isn't cheating, but accusations with little or no hard evidence lead to nothing. Hell, there were some recordings earlier this year showing "Hackers" (aka cheaters... they have no hacking skills) blatantly breaking rules and nothing was done.

Bio 12-05-2017 12:04 PM

nobody gonna get anything done without a clear way to detect if someone is hacking it'll only get worse

Rusix 12-05-2017 12:24 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 802933)
You’re making a big deal out of it @Rusix. If you hit him on your screen from the side and it didn’t register then he is toggling godmode.
One time I messaged TeeDee to come (few months ago) this guy didn’t even ban him lol. TeeDee queued on his admin account when he was invisible, when the match started obviously he was invisible and it was just that hacker on the ring. Teedee landed a hit on him while invisible and it obviously registered because the hacker’s godmode was off. Then Teedee assumed he wasn’t hacking in the other matches too and left BA without baning him lol... .It was a different hacker

The godmodder isnt a big deal. He'd be dealt with.
But what is a big deal is Graals ABILITY to detect hackers to BEGIN with. Classic apparently cant even detect a 3rd party app on screen. Which is why we got a horrible anti-bot system that doesnt really stop anyone because aimbots exist. This is why people like XYZ in a sense have more control over the game then dusty himself because they cant get rid of XYZ or stop his hacks.

Surely you heard of the call of mini games right? Popular on the app store.that's what happens when hackers can go virtually unstopped. Every online game you play. 3/4ths of them are hackers with god mode. which ruins the game because admins cant stop everyone. which this can easily happen with XYZ and his new hacking stuff he is said to release

Bryan* 12-05-2017 02:13 PM

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There’s hackers pretty much everywhere in the game such as: XYZ, Papi Chulo, KaiDragon, and many more. This issue won’t get resolved until developers do something about it (starting to believe they can’t).

Many GP’s probably don’t even try anymore because even if they ban the player, it’ll make a new account, bypass the ban and continue cheating. It’s more easy to ban someone with “sh*t” on their status than trying to ban a hacker.

Fulgore 12-05-2017 03:12 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 802940)
You have to take into account that lag can cause you to 'hit' him on your screen and not have the damage register, as well. Not to say the guy isn't cheating, but accusations with little or no hard evidence lead to nothing. Hell, there were some recordings earlier this year showing "Hackers" (aka cheaters... they have no hacking skills) blatantly breaking rules and nothing was done.

we've been around the block...we can tell the difference between delay and this

alexx 12-05-2017 08:30 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 802947)
There’s hackers pretty much everywhere in the game such as: XYZ, Papi Chulo, KaiDragon, and many more. This issue won’t get resolved until developers do something about it (starting to believe they can’t).

Many GP’s probably don’t even try anymore because even if they ban the player, it’ll make a new account, bypass the ban and continue cheating. It’s more easy to ban someone with “sh*t” on their status than trying to ban a hacker.

but that’s the point of not being able to spar without being identified and have 24hrs....if any admin made that excuse it’ll just show they are lazy and don’t give a **** about a game they work for

RyanB 12-06-2017 01:51 AM

its the king fox guy kek

DoubleliftGraal 12-06-2017 01:55 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 802947)
There’s hackers pretty much everywhere in the game such as: XYZ, Papi Chulo, KaiDragon, and many more. This issue won’t get resolved until developers do something about it (starting to believe they can’t).

Many GP’s probably don’t even try anymore because even if they ban the player, it’ll make a new account, bypass the ban and continue cheating. It’s more easy to ban someone with “sh*t” on their status than trying to ban a hacker.

They can't do anything about it anyways... There are endless possibilities that a hacker could do and get away with it. Besides Graal admins arent professional computer technicians or whatever. My only one question is "Is it true that Ben the hacker who hacked WAR gst REALLY go to jail in Britain?"

RyanB 12-06-2017 02:24 AM

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Posted by DoubleliftGraal (Post 802992)
They can't do anything about it anyways... There are endless possibilities that a hacker could do and get away with it. Besides Graal admins arent professional computer technicians or whatever. My only one question is "Is it true that Ben the hacker who hacked WAR gst REALLY go to jail in Britain?"

****ing ******

Thallen 12-06-2017 03:23 AM

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Posted by DoubleliftGraal (Post 802992)
They can't do anything about it anyways...

They can and it starts with hiring someone who is active and cares about the few competitive parts left in the game
It's a top-down problem though because Dread is non-existent in the community (yet still holds onto his job?) and we're in yet another era where the GP hirings are pretty much monopolized by a single guild


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