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TWIZ 01-31-2017 05:09 AM

New DSLR camera?
 
I'm trying to find a cheap DLSR camera to buy (<$1000) and if anyone has any knowledge in choosing the best one please let me know.

1. DSLR
2. Must record in 60fps (PROGRESSIVE!)
3. Above 20 megapixels
4. I do like the pivotal lcd since it would come in handy while filming
5. Anything else that would be beneficial to the filming aspect of a DSLR camera

As I said, the primary use for the camera would be to film, not take photos. I've recently struck an interest in DSLR filmmaking in particular. So far I think my best bet is the Nikon D5500 but I'm still not quite sure what to get. I'm pretty tired while typing this and probably missed some things so if anyone has any questions about criteria then ask. Thanks.

I've been using GoPros, mirrorless and whatnot recently and wanna expand my horizon

[read the title under my username for a sad story]

Jared9 01-31-2017 09:23 AM

I couldn't recommend a dslr personally but I highly recommend either the Panasonic G7 (which is what I use) or the Panasonic GH4. The G7 starts at around $700 aud and would still leave you with heaps of money for a microphone, cage, lenses etc. It shoots 1080p @60fps and also shoots at consumer grade 4k. The g7 is more of an entry level camera. Awesome for film making but also shoots great photos.

The Panasonic gh4 is, from what I've heard and seen, an awesome camera. My Photography teacher's son who is an indie film maker uses one, plus I've seen a whole heap of youtubers using it eg. Unbox Therapy. Its the g7's older brother and more of professional tool. The gh4 starts from around $1100aud, which will be under your budget.

I know these aren't dslrs but they are still great cameras, and highly recommend considering them

edit: you probably know about these cameras already

TWIZ 01-31-2017 02:22 PM

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Posted by Jared9 (Post 761460)
I couldn't recommend a dslr personally but I highly recommend either the Panasonic G7 (which is what I use) or the Panasonic GH4. The G7 starts at around $700 aud and would still leave you with heaps of money for a microphone, cage, lenses etc. It shoots 1080p @60fps and also shoots at consumer grade 4k. The g7 is more of an entry level camera. Awesome for film making but also shoots great photos.

The Panasonic gh4 is, from what I've heard and seen, an awesome camera. My Photography teacher's son who is an indie film maker uses one, plus I've seen a whole heap of youtubers using it eg. Unbox Therapy. Its the g7's older brother and more of professional tool. The gh4 starts from around $1100aud, which will be under your budget.

I know these aren't dslrs but they are still great cameras, and highly recommend considering them

edit: you probably know about these cameras already

Yeah I mean since I'm going to college next year I'd like to stay in touch with both photography and videography as hobbies so I kinda wanted to dip into DSLRs next. I've never used Panasonic but thanks for the info!

Darklux 02-01-2017 03:10 PM

Not sure, if a DSLR is the right choice for you. The Nikon 5500 has no pivotal display, I think the first Nikon that has is a D750 which is way beyond your price range of 1000$.
I am not into videography, but I heard that the count of autofocus-pixels might reduce the video fun a bit.

About the Panasonic, isn't it MFT? MFT has some pro's and con's compared top APS-C.

Camera wise, the Nikon is a nice thing tho. The 50mm fixed (fx) and 35 mm fixed (dx-format) are quite affordable and have a superb picture quality. But I think you might prefer a zoom with some range for filming. I am using a D3300, it offers the same picture quality. The worse autofocus doesn't affect me, as I am rather into nature fotography, anyways.

Some Nikon D3300 examples (+ Pentax K50 and Pentax 35mm DSLR Pictures): https://www.elcarnicero.de/koken/index.php

Chase* 02-01-2017 05:05 PM

Get Galaxy Zoom

TWIZ 02-01-2017 08:48 PM

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Posted by Chase* (Post 761852)
Get Galaxy Zoom

Lol

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Posted by Darklux (Post 761837)
Not sure, if a DSLR is the right choice for you. The Nikon 5500 has no pivotal display, I think the first Nikon that has is a D750 which is way beyond your price range of 1000$.
I am not into videography, but I heard that the count of autofocus-pixels might reduce the video fun a bit.

About the Panasonic, isn't it MFT? MFT has some pro's and con's compared top APS-C.

Camera wise, the Nikon is a nice thing tho. The 50mm fixed (fx) and 35 mm fixed (dx-format) are quite affordable and have a superb picture quality. But I think you might prefer a zoom with some range for filming. I am using a D3300, it offers the same picture quality. The worse autofocus doesn't affect me, as I am rather into nature fotography, anyways.

Some Nikon D3300 examples (+ Pentax K50 and Pentax 35mm DSLR Pictures): https://www.elcarnicero.de/koken/index.php

I can assure you that the D5500 has the pivotal display (which is a term I kinda made up for the swivel LCD. Is there an actual official meaning to that term that I missed?). The auto focus, ehhh, I'm not too worried about. I probably won't use it, since I'd rather train myself to do it manually for a more natural effect. I'm actually going to build a custom rig with a 3.5", maybe bigger, mirror display to get a better glimpse of what's in focus. That won't cost more than $30.

Darklux 02-02-2017 01:16 PM

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Posted by TWIZ (Post 761887)
I can assure you that the D5500 has the pivotal display (which is a term I kinda made up for the swivel LCD. Is there an actual official meaning to that term that I missed?).

Ah you are right about the pivotal display, I probaply mixed it up with the D5400.

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Posted by TWIZ (Post 761887)
The auto focus, ehhh, I'm not too worried about. I probably won't use it, since I'd rather train myself to do it manually for a more natural effect.

@Manual focus: Most cheaper digital lenses are not built for a good MF usage. The focus ring of the default 18-45 nikon kit lense is very soft and no real fun to work with. Especially capturing faster scenes requires alot of training with MF. Thats why I still use analog hardware. You can get good lenses for a good price, yet it's still much more cash intensive than digital photography (for example 700€ for a decent 35mm scanner).

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Posted by TWIZ (Post 761887)
I'm actually going to build a custom rig with a 3.5", maybe bigger, mirror display to get a better glimpse of what's in focus. That won't cost more than $30.

Can you give me an example or additional information about this? :o

TWIZ 02-02-2017 05:18 PM

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Posted by Darklux (Post 762038)
Ah you are right about the pivotal display, I probaply mixed it up with the D5400.



@Manual focus: Most cheaper digital lenses are not built for a good MF usage. The focus ring of the default 18-45 nikon kit lense is very soft and no real fun to work with. Especially capturing faster scenes requires alot of training with MF. Thats why I still use analog hardware. You can get good lenses for a good price, yet it's still much more cash intensive than digital photography (for example 700€ for a decent 35mm scanner).



Can you give me an example or additional information about this? :o

Filmmakers usually use a little focus grip attachment that clamps onto the lense that makes it all around easier to manually focus. I don't know, I guess I'll just have to experiment. I've never been a fan of autofocus.

About the mirroring display, I started looking at mini displays online and figured that literally all you have to do is buy one of those little monitors people use in their car and make/buy an adapter that splits the HDMI into RCA and auxiliary. All you have to do is figure out a way to attach it. It also allows you to use live headphones on a camera without a jack. I've never tried it but I assume it works.

Pr0m4N V.14 02-03-2017 12:20 PM

A dual single lens reflex?

TWIZ 02-03-2017 01:35 PM

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Posted by Pr0m4N V.14 (Post 762243)
A dual single lens reflex?

Digital SLR

M4rkus 02-20-2017 04:10 PM

I would recommend the new canon 77D. It just got announced some days ago and it records 1080p 60fps. Not 4K tho so if you want that go with sony cameras

Its basically the better, cheaper, lighter version of a canon 80D.

TWIZ 02-20-2017 04:26 PM

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Posted by M4rkus (Post 766164)
I would recommend the new canon 77D. It just got announced some days ago and it records 1080p 60fps. Not 4K tho so if you want that go with sony cameras

Its basically the better, cheaper, lighter version of a canon 80D.

That's nice. It's in the range of what I'm looking for, thanks for the recommendation!


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