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Snow4u 12-12-2016 03:37 AM

A personal question I have about scamming/G4G
 
As a player of classic of 2 years I have noticed and realized that December is the time of the year that the vultures of graal come out and prey upon the newbies and innocent minded. Now the question I ask and I do not mean to offended anyone since some players in classic have taken offense to this but do you consider G4G a complete scam and will reporting this help get the scammer get banned.
I ask this question because I have been approached by a few people that have said that reporting a scammer won't get them banned. However I believe that if a single player gets reported 5 or 10 times for scamming I'm sure the graal police will do something to the reported scammer. Its my personal opinion that if I see scamming that I should report it.


Please do not take a offense to this question. Its simple a question/opinon.

Zetectic 12-12-2016 03:40 AM

i think last year i saw a dude scamming many noobs with his fake gpic. he was never punished. but I am sure he got lots of reports on him.

scam is a scam. but there's a reason why graal has set up a toll for secret santa. use that daily. u should be good.

4-Lom 12-12-2016 03:46 AM

Scamming inside the confines of certain game activities is the norm. It's not good sportsmanship, so to speak, but people do it and the GP have little control over it. You can search for the Terms of Service for graal - Scamming is dealt with when it's through the official trade feature of the game (which classic server does not have). When you're talking about people who are offering to trade gifts, it becomes a question of if you know them well enough to trust them.

Personally, I never gave a gift in hopes of getting one in return. Not even to my best buddies. It's absolutely against the spirit of the holiday, so you're getting what you deserve. If you have some cash left over at the end of the event, go toss some gifts in the secret santa (by church) and you're guaranteed to get the same in return.

Snow4u 12-12-2016 03:56 AM

Secret Santa is the best way to get gifts. But sadly a lot of people don't want to pay 10 gralats and scammer take advantage of that.

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 747808)
Scamming inside the confines of certain game activities is the norm. It's not good sportsmanship, so to speak, but people do it and the GP have little control over it. You can search for the Terms of Service for graal - Scamming is dealt with when it's through the official trade feature of the game (which classic server does not have). When you're talking about people who are offering to trade gifts, it becomes a question of if you know them well enough to trust them.

Personally, I never gave a gift in hopes of getting one in return. Not even to my best buddies. It's absolutely against the spirit of the holiday, so you're getting what you deserve. If you have some cash left over at the end of the event, go toss some gifts in the secret santa (by church) and you're guaranteed to get the same in return.

True some people are greedy but some people really don't know any better. Newbies to Classic won't know much about G4G risks and sometimes just a 10 gralats is a make or break deal for them.

Alex R 12-12-2016 06:25 AM

Simple solution : do secret Santa thing. It's your own fault if you trust someone you shouldn't. Reporting won't do anything and it shouldn't , otherwise you could just mass report people u don't like and say they scammed you

Admiral 12-12-2016 07:41 AM

This has been asked before and basically the answer is no. G4G on its own is something staff/higher ups do not encourage and thats why the secret santa system was implemented as a work around. Doing gift4gift is something you do at your own risk and if you decide to do it, maybe you should stick to gifting your friends!

Raeven 12-12-2016 09:01 AM

And you never know if that report was legit or a lie, all i can suggest is that they add the trade thing in easter to the g4g thing , You can choose either gift someone without an exchange or gift someone with an exchange , so if u wanna g4g u gotta trade someone for an equivalent gift u wanted , while if u wanna gift someone who is inactive or a friend.. u can send em right away with the Give a gift without a trade option.

Bryan* 12-12-2016 11:33 AM

Just do Secret Santa to avoid getting scammed

Thallen 12-12-2016 12:04 PM

The G4G thing isn't an idea supported or suggested by staff. It's a player-run thing and you're at your own risk if you do something like that and end up at a loss.

Heeble 12-12-2016 12:31 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 747805)
i think last year i saw a dude scamming many noobs with his fake gpic. he was never punished. but I am sure he got lots of reports on him.

scam is a scam. but there's a reason why graal has set up a toll for secret santa. use that daily. u should be good.

The guild pic has been the same since 2014: 500 strong presents. For those of you G4G'ers out there, be careful of this guy. Not sure about his name but he's the only one using that guild pic.

Agonee 12-12-2016 03:33 PM

Quote:

Posted by Snow4u (Post 747804)
As a player of classic of 2 years I have noticed and realized that December is the time of the year that the vultures of graal come out and prey upon the newbies and innocent minded. Now the question I ask and I do not mean to offended anyone since some players in classic have taken offense to this but do you consider G4G a complete scam and will reporting this help get the scammer get banned.
I ask this question because I have been approached by a few people that have said that reporting a scammer won't get them banned. However I believe that if a single player gets reported 5 or 10 times for scamming I'm sure the graal police will do something to the reported scammer. Its my personal opinion that if I see scamming that I should report it.


Please do not take a offense to this question. Its simple a question/opinon.

My bro got banned for scamming an Admin XD

Also yes, reporting them will get them banned, you should just join (Gift Trades INC), it's a guild that me and my friend Don do every xmas, we only recruit people that we trust a lot/kick people that scams.

G Fatal 12-12-2016 03:46 PM

Scamming is legal...It's only when they offer something i.e) have this item from era or I'll pay you after send gift etc that it becomes a scam that's banable.


Chances are that if someone is even saying Gift 4 thisGift is that they most likely won't if you have to gift something before they gift you anything they likely going to scam you, basically because the balls in their corner...


Idk what this secret santa system is? not been on classic when it's been about, but I've wondered why they haven't done something like that anyway where basically player gives present and gets a present back. Maybe also a spinoff to make different from other years why not have 'Ohh no! Santa has dropped numerous presents while trying to deliver them, go found them and dig them up for free presents!'

Alex R 12-12-2016 04:47 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 747891)
Maybe also a spinoff to make different from other years why not have 'Ohh no! Santa has dropped numerous presents while trying to deliver them, go found them and dig them up for free presents!'

Really good idea , won't happen tho , people will spend hundreds of $$/££ worth on Christmas like they do every year , they ain't gonna give things out for free when they are raking in the cash

Advent 12-12-2016 05:58 PM

g4g no scam if u give me 2 gifts i will give u 4

Alex R 12-12-2016 06:31 PM

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Posted by Advent (Post 747917)
g4g no scam if u give me 2 gifts i will give u 4

Lier!


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