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Aguzo 12-07-2016 04:58 AM

Speeding in Spar
 
Recently, there has been an increase on the % of people speeding in spar.
By speeding I don't mean the obvious one's that move super fast. There are a lot of people going slightly faster than the normal speed.

Is there any way to solve this issue? Git Gud?

Nanner 12-07-2016 05:10 AM

Make time go slower and realize every possibly sequence and combo that can be done to overcome the speedness

James205 12-07-2016 05:16 AM

This has become a problem for sure and I'm also seeing an increase in it. I've seen many people doing it including lots of noob accounts and it seems they are being careful about when they toggle it.

I know it's always kind of been a problem but as of lately it seems to definitely have an uptick and the worst I've seen it since I've been back (1 year).

DoubleliftGraal 12-07-2016 05:30 AM

If these noobs wanna speed, they should do it like Meta-Sonic(The obvious ones that literally warp around the arena like crazy). I guess the only solution for this is for the admins to buy some kinda speeding calculator that calculates pixels per seconds lol

Nanner 12-07-2016 05:47 AM

Why hack graal? lol. Your much better off hacking mw2 and doing more fun ****

Red 12-07-2016 05:58 AM

As someone who spars late into the night (early morning for US players about midnight for pinoys) I see a lot of brazillian and pinoy noob accounts speeding blatantly and sometimes toggling mid spar.

Its a huge problem always has been and always will be, there really isn't an easy Fix for it considering most gps won't come near spar rooms unless a player is reported. (more often then not newer players sparring against cheaters don't know you can report others)

DoubleliftGraal 12-07-2016 06:15 AM

Quote:

Posted by Red (Post 746431)
As someone who spars late into the night (early morning for US players about midnight for pinoys) I see a lot of brazillian and pinoy noob accounts speeding blatantly and sometimes toggling mid spar.

Its a huge problem always has been and always will be, there really isn't an easy Fix for it considering most gps won't come near spar rooms unless a player is reported. (more often then not newer players sparring against cheaters don't know you can report others)

Maybe those guys have extremely terrible wifi problems cuz imo, almost all of those sparrers lag and speed like that. Just my guess lol.

qes 12-07-2016 06:36 AM

@thallen @carly @othernoobs

Raeven 12-07-2016 08:57 AM

Just say "lol pinoy" if u lose

Yog 12-08-2016 03:00 AM

Quote:

Posted by Nanner (Post 746430)
Why hack graal? lol. Your much better off hacking mw2 and doing more fun ****

I was banned for joining a challenge lobby : (

Colin 12-08-2016 03:29 AM

Would be nice to see some sort of detection put in place

James' was streaming a few weeks back so I downloaded CE and set my speed to 20x the speed limit and ran up and down the side of the spectator area for a couple minutes to see if it would auto-detect and nothing happened when I was going the full length of the room in just a matter of seconds, now just imagine someone who is smart about it and the speed they choose

James205 12-08-2016 04:26 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 746567)
Would be nice to see some sort of detection put in place

James' was streaming a few weeks back so I downloaded CE and set my speed to 20x the speed limit and ran up and down the side of the spectator area for a couple minutes to see if it would auto-detect and nothing happened when I was going the full length of the room in just a matter of seconds, now just imagine someone who is smart about it and the speed they choose

tbh i respect the honesty. But on the real side more people figuring out there is no true detection right now and how to be safe with it which is why there is a huge uptick. So now people have learned about toggling and not going too far and it's getting out of control

DoubleliftGraal 12-08-2016 04:48 AM

Probably a lil bit irrelevant but I just caught Abood doing some weird crap. I was able to hit him rly easily in spar and halfway, i hit the corner and abood just got hit from nowher lol. That's how he beat me

James205 12-08-2016 05:19 AM

Quote:

Posted by DoubleliftGraal (Post 746579)
Probably a lil bit irrelevant but I just caught Abood doing some weird crap. I was able to hit him rly easily in spar and halfway, i hit the corner and abood just got hit from nowher lol. That's how he beat me

It's irrelevant in the fact there is no detection and players have found this out so tons of people right now taking advantage of this if they are careful.

But for the call outs right now it's a full witch hunt which proves nothing.

4-Lom 12-08-2016 06:44 AM

*reads previous threads regarding same*

Dusty said, at one point or other...


"The problem with speed-hacking detection is it's fairly easy to catch false-positives and at least on Classic we tend not to do much banning via automatic processes for this reason. The more obvious the speed the easier it is to detect but as it's been said, it's the subtle hackers that are the problem... and that makes it even harder to reliably detect. Typically detection is done by keeping track of your movement, and if a "step" is farther than naturally allowed flag it. But there is a lot that can throw it off. For example, diagonal movement is much faster than horizontal and vertical movement. Also, what about if you're on a horse, or a draisine? What about if you snap around(for example entering a house, then when it finally updates warping you to the entrance)? Things like low framerates and such can throw it off too. When you have all these variables to account for and you're trying to catch minute differences in speed(.65 tiles/second instead of .6 tiles/second), it can be easy to flag non-offenders."


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