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Distorted_P2P 12-02-2016 03:25 AM

Zodiac
 
Zodiac came back to life, somehow. Top of the playercount at most times now, community seems to be extremely active too. Not to mention the playercount is rising over time unlike some of the other servers. What do you guys think?
https://gyazo.com/bd4291774cc65a373648bdfd8a1376f8.png

Spoiler
Any of you gotten this yet?
https://gyazo.com/a177c5102b8a5040e68b3820710f1e35.png

Although I do feel Fp4 should be a bit more active and focus more of his attention towards Zodiac, I think he's the best person for the job and shouldn't be replaced.

Thoughts?
@fp4

Red 12-02-2016 03:29 AM

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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 745328)

He's an iClassic staff member tho, why would he spend time on a dead client?
30 people is nothing compared to 8k users on iClassic (and growing).

Shmegg 12-02-2016 03:30 AM

I like Zodiac. I don't necessarily agree with those proposed managers.

Yog 12-02-2016 03:31 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 745333)
I like Zodiac. I don't necessarily agree with those proposed managers.

I don't agree with any of them.

Kiri 12-02-2016 03:56 AM

I understand that some of the candidates may be aggressive on the zone section but they deserve a chance, the proposed managers were people i could think of right off the bad, there could be more candidates. here is the playerbase from a few hours ago
http://i.imgur.com/zYZoFep.png

It isn't as dead as people seem to believe, sure it's not as active but like distorted says it has the most players out of the pc servers if it received proper support and a new management and released on facebook it is likely to rise over olwest and zone.

there are even players who invest their valuable time on guides and drop lists
http://nikwals-drop-archieve.de.tl/

Red 12-02-2016 04:01 AM

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Posted by Kiri (Post 745339)
I understand that some of the candidates may be aggressive on the zone section but they deserve a chance, the proposed managers were people i could think of right off the bad, there could be more candidates. here is the playerbase from a few hours ago
http://i.imgur.com/zYZoFep.png

It isn't as dead as people seem to believe, sure it's not as active but like distorted says it has the most players out of the pc servers if it received proper support and a new management and released on facebook it is likely to rise over olwest and zone.

there are even players who invest their valuable time on guides and drop lists
http://nikwals-drop-archieve.de.tl/

Problem is its making no money for Unix, why would they bother with it.
It's been mentioned that Unix is working with Unity engine as of now, I also don't see a reason to do anything with client graal.

The playerbase is the same 100 or so people who havent gotten over client graal yet and sit in the main city (literally EVERY client server) doing nothing.

Also why would FP4 have anything to do with the client when he's working for iclassic?????????????

Khai 12-02-2016 04:04 AM

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Posted by Red (Post 745341)
Problem is its making no money for Unix, why would they bother with it.
It's been mentioned that Unix is working with Unity engine as of now, I also don't see a reason to do anything with client graal.

The playerbase is the same 100 or so people who havent gotten over client graal yet and sit in the main city (literally EVERY client server) doing nothing.

Also why would FP4 have anything to do with the client when he's working for iclassic?????????????

it's making no money because it ain't on ios duh

and i also don't agree with the proposed managers

Red 12-02-2016 04:07 AM

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Posted by Khai (Post 745342)
it's making no money because it ain't on ios duh

and i also don't agree with the proposed managers

It's making no money because there is absolutely no reason to buy anything from the clients store...

Khai 12-02-2016 04:07 AM

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Posted by Red (Post 745346)
It's making no money because there is absolutely no reason to buy anything from the clients store...

ye, and put classic on there. no one would buy mad **** either. you have to put the game on different platforms to profit.

Shmegg 12-02-2016 04:08 AM

My issue with the proposed managers isn't that I believe them to be too aggressive, but I believe you're over-estimating their potential to bring Zodiac to a higher level. And especially since none of them have an equal familiarity with the server as fp4 does.

If there were an actual, actual incentive in sight to start focusing more attention on the server, it would be best to give fp4 the option if he wanted to put more time into the server or let somebody else take over. There's no need to have him removed.

Red 12-02-2016 04:12 AM

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Posted by Khai (Post 745347)
ye, and put classic on there. no one would buy mad **** either. you have to put the game on different platforms to profit.

Difference is classic was made for the app store not for some ****ty client that is difficult for people who haven't used before to navigate.

Once again why the **** would anyone want to spend money on a client server, even if You added it to the mobile servers available.

also the whole "put classic on there and it wouldn't make any money" probably because no one who plays igraal and started 2013-2016 knows what the **** client graal is.

Zetectic 12-02-2016 04:12 AM

Zodiac is fun if you have a right group to play with. And that's the exact reason why I quit. There's these world bosses & dungeons that you can't solo, and it's so hard to butt in pro farming groups. TBH it's that one game I'd definitely value friends/reputation over equipments/money. Cause over time you will guarantee to have both.

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Back in March, I tried my best to fit in a farming group, but the party leader kicked me for not knowing an acronym for a raid location. I kinda felt lame, he could've taught me instead of kicking.

I remember getting scammed by Sardon. He charged me 850k for 2 rare equipments <-(400k value). He also exchanged me some junk gears for a race changer(2.5m value). So he completely lost my trust over some virtual money.

At my final phase, I met this dude who was able to hack dmg & hp. He said he'd help me farm these world bosses, but at some point, he got pissed off by PKers in front of respawn zone. So he PKed them back with hacks enabled and got himself banned permanently.
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Khai 12-02-2016 04:13 AM

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Posted by Red (Post 745350)
Difference is classic was made for the app store not for some ****ty client that is difficult for people who haven't used before to navigate.

Once again why the **** would anyone want to spend money on a client server, even if You added it to the mobile servers available.

also the whole "put classic on there and it wouldn't make any money" probably because no one who plays igraal and started 2013-2016 knows what the **** client graal is.

exactly why you should put zodiac on ios

Kiri 12-02-2016 04:14 AM

Quote:

Posted by Red (Post 745341)
Problem is its making no money for Unix, why would they bother with it.
It's been mentioned that Unix is working with Unity engine as of now, I also don't see a reason to do anything with client graal.

The playerbase is the same 100 or so people who havent gotten over client graal yet and sit in the main city (literally EVERY client server) doing nothing.

Also why would FP4 have anything to do with the client when he's working for iclassic?????????????

1. let me correct you, it does make him atleast a tiny bit of money from character slots and exp pots through surveys (players do this if they can't afford to pay real money)
http://i.imgur.com/zs8j32h.png

2. incorrect, not all of them afk full time, they pvp quite often, participate in ctf or farm gear, the main reason you dont see much of that at times is because there isn't much motivation to play with minimal development.

3. fowlplay4 was and is still the manager of zodiac. but we all know he is only working for iclassic, yet he is still hold the position.

Quote:

Posted by Shmegg (Post 745348)
My issue with the proposed managers isn't that I believe them to be too aggressive, but I believe you're over-estimating their potential to bring Zodiac to a higher level. And especially since none of them have an equal familiarity with the server as fp4 does.

If there were an actual, actual incentive in sight to start focusing more attention on the server, it would be best to give fp4 the option if he wanted to put more time into the server or let somebody else take over. There's no need to have him removed.

I'm aware that jerret is a extremely talented scripter and i respect that.

despite that players have been complaining about fowlplay4 for not putting any time into it, but he has also stated that it's not worth it so no he will not put any more time into it.

i understand there is alot of work and no motivation which is why i find it necessary for a new management.

http://i.imgur.com/3uShLyU.png

and here is what one of the old players think
http://i.imgur.com/RFTd76D.png

Khai 12-02-2016 04:14 AM

Quote:

Posted by Red (Post 745350)
Difference is classic was made for the app store not for some ****ty client that is difficult for people who haven't used before to navigate.

Once again why the **** would anyone want to spend money on a client server, even if You added it to the mobile servers available.

also the whole "put classic on there and it wouldn't make any money" probably because no one who plays igraal and started 2013-2016 knows what the **** client graal is.

and i'm pretty dam sure most of the ios games started from client


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