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Night-Anthem* 06-18-2016 08:22 PM

House Top3
 
Hello everyone,
I'm writting today to ask something that I think, in my opinion, is really important.
Since it takes time, much time and money, maybe none of you is in possession of a ~200k gralats house ( Axel74 house maybe) . Here is a proof that people like it, you don't know how long it took me to get such a big house with about 30 status of deferent type of admins and every Graal's quests explication to complete them, in French since I'm French and everything in this game is English so I guess I'm helping French players.

Why would this leaderboard not get a simple trophy ? :'(
This is the only one without any rewards, I'm not asking for gralats or a furniture, like sparring or killing leaderboard but just a trophy for the top 3 Rating House.

Also I'd like to know what you all think about that idea. Sincerely ~

Dusty 06-18-2016 09:10 PM

The house leaderboard is there to provide an easy way to find cool houses, not necessarily as a competition. Not to mention the fact that placement is determined by the community instead of statistics turns it into a popularity contest instead of relevant to actual content. This is evident by some of the houses being pretty high up with nothing actually in them.

Weeno 06-18-2016 09:17 PM

Are u that #1 house French guy?

Night-Anthem* 06-18-2016 09:47 PM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 715490)
Are u that #1 house French guy?

Yep :)

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Posted by Dusty (Post 715489)
The house leaderboard is there to provide an easy way to find cool houses, not necessarily as a competition. Not to mention the fact that placement is determined by the community instead of statistics turns it into a popularity contest instead of relevant to actual content. This is evident by some of the houses being pretty high up with nothing actually in them.

So why would you make it as a leaderboard if they're all rewarded and not this one, you'd make an other way to make good houses famous in Graal
You can't even be in the top 3 house rated if you're house is empty, it seems to be impossible.

Bryan* 06-18-2016 10:14 PM

Gets recognition...still wants a prize. Something that isn't even skill-based...

slyde 06-18-2016 10:39 PM

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Posted by Night-Anthem* (Post 715491)

You can't even be in the top 3 house rated if you're house is empty, it seems to be impossible.

As much as I would love prizes for amazing looking houses, the voting can be rigged through advertisement and guilelessness of players.

I believe a person's house was rated top 3 the first week and it was completely empty. Now some people say that it was an abstract artistic choice, but others wouldn't.

Strum 06-18-2016 11:43 PM

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Posted by Night-Anthem* (Post 715475)
Hello everyone,
I'm writting today to ask something that I think, in my opinion, is really important.
Since it takes time, much time and money, maybe none of you is in possession of a ~200k gralats house ( Axel74 house maybe) . Here is a proof that people like it, you don't know how long it took me to get such a big house with about 30 status of deferent type of admins and every Graal's quests explication to complete them, in French since I'm French and everything in this game is English so I guess I'm helping French players.

Why would this leaderboard not get a simple trophy ? :'(
This is the only one without any rewards, I'm not asking for gralats or a furniture, like sparring or killing leaderboard but just a trophy for the top 3 Rating House.

Also I'd like to know what you all think about that idea. Sincerely ~

Dégages tu pues ;p

Perception. 06-20-2016 12:51 PM

personne t'a dit de dépenser 200k pour ta maison pour qu'a la fin tu viennes réclamer un trophée.

Dans ce cas la tout le monde fait pareil, dépense de l'argent fait une jolie maison Super Utile et réclame ensuite un du.

4-Lom 06-20-2016 02:19 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 715514)
Gets recognition...still wants a prize. Something that isn't even skill-based...

K let's see your awesome house with no effort or skills... It's just a different skill set than some are gifted. That said, there's a lot of no-good houses out there (in top 50 out of thousands, even) that just get there by advertising 24 hours a day (apparently leaving their devices on and somehow not disconnecting?) in order to gain the most exposure OR creating multiple accounts to divert attention to their main.

I am hoping that the 'seasonal leaderboard' in this area of the game will have one of two effects - reducing the number of players who advertise poorly made houses after the first season ends with no prize or creating more of an acclaim for those who do choose to advertise through creating a specific set of design criteria and/or a more elaborate function of house-design in game, potentially leading to a more complex, judged, rewards-based competition later on.

Maybe both!

Night-Anthem* 06-20-2016 02:25 PM

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Posted by Perception. (Post 716074)
personne t'a dit de dépenser 200k pour ta maison pour qu'a la fin tu viennes réclamer un trophée.

Dans ce cas la tout le monde fait pareil, dépense de l'argent fait une jolie maison Super Utile et réclame ensuite un du.

Au bout de 2 ans il est normal d'avoir une maison qui a de la valeur

Je dis juste pourquoi mettre les maisons dans le menu ou l'icône est un trophee si il n'y a rien a gagné ;)

Pokki 06-20-2016 02:29 PM

It isn't a competition, it is just a cool feature to browse houses. Relax.

Bryan* 06-20-2016 03:33 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 716097)
K let's see your awesome house with no effort or skills... It's just a different skill set than some are gifted. That said, there's a lot of no-good houses out there (in top 50 out of thousands, even) that just get there by advertising 24 hours a day (apparently leaving their devices on and somehow not disconnecting?) in order to gain the most exposure OR creating multiple accounts to divert attention to their main.

I am hoping that the 'seasonal leaderboard' in this area of the game will have one of two effects - reducing the number of players who advertise poorly made houses after the first season ends with no prize or creating more of an acclaim for those who do choose to advertise through creating a specific set of design criteria and/or a more elaborate function of house-design in game, potentially leading to a more complex, judged, rewards-based competition later on.

Maybe both!

All that's in my house is a "Vault Room" (all my guild hats) and a shrine to myself because I'm that arrogant. Anyways, you do not need a prize for decorating a house, you get enough recognition in the leaderboards itself. Regardless, the system for it is fixed. No dislike button. Players can honestly just make noob accounts and spam like the crap out of their houses.

Either way, you don't need a hat or a furniture prize for decorating a house. You get enough recognition if you're listed on the leaderboards.

eevee2 06-20-2016 05:22 PM

Pour être complètement honnête, je crois qu'au lieu de se concentrer sur des trucs comme ça, les admins devraient se concentrer sur d'autres choses.
Par exemple recréé le ctf.
Si on se met à donner des trophées pour les maisons, il va falloir en donner pour les loots, les insectes, etc.
Si ta maison est sur le leaderboard bah compte toi chanceux et profite en.
Si on se met à donner des trophées à tout le monde, le trophée devient inutile.
En plus, quand on y pense, le trophée pour les oeufs de pâques disparait dès le pâque suivant. Tu vas avoir un trophée pour une saison et si tu n'es pas dans le leaderboard l'année suivante tu le perd. Yay...
En ce moment ce que les admins sont entrain de faire c'est surtout d'encourager les joueurs à mieux communiquer/jouer entre eux.
Si les maisons ont un leaderboard, c'est tout simplement parce que l'on tient en compte le côté social du jeu. Cependant, si tu donne des récompense pour ça... Tu perd la raison pour laquelle tu créé le leaderboard.

4-Lom 06-20-2016 05:25 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 716120)
Either way, you don't need a hat or a furniture prize for decorating a house. You get enough recognition if you're listed on the leaderboards.

Son, I was getting recognition for my house without leaderboards. :P

In fact, even with the leaderboard in place, I haven't changed my basic activity, except maybe enthusiasm for changing the layout more. If there were a reward that were somehow implemented in such a way to discourage this swarm of random empty/novice houses from crowding the streets, it would be for the best.

Yog 06-20-2016 05:29 PM

I'm not sure I agree with no prizes. PKing and Baddy Killing arguably don't take skill, just time. Although house ratings can easily be exploited, as we've seen, unlike PKing and Baddy Killing.


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