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GenoIndeed 02-10-2016 01:19 AM

Freeze reload
 
I'd like to know yalls thoughts about bringing it back or not.

Weeno 02-10-2016 01:25 AM

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what's a freeze? can't really find the true answer on google. Unless of course, you freeze when you reload

GenoIndeed 02-10-2016 01:32 AM

Its when you stop in place to reload, unlike now where you can reload and still move.

TWIZ 02-10-2016 02:27 AM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 670135)
Its when you stop in place to reload, unlike now where you can reload and still move.

Isn't it also when you freeze between each shot as well?

Wolfie 02-10-2016 02:31 AM

Yeah. Imo, you should bring it back because it adds more to the strategy for sparring/pking/basing. Calculating where the bullets will be to stop and reload is awesome.

Yog 02-10-2016 02:49 AM

gross

Weeno 02-10-2016 03:14 AM

nahhhh instead of freezes how about automatic and non automatic reloads. Reasonable guns such as chainguns and railgun should NOT have auto reloads but guns like siphons and rippers should

I'm here for piggy, zone is a fast pace game.

PigParty 02-10-2016 03:31 AM

hell (insert bad word here that would get this post deleted) no.

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Posted by TWIZ (Post 670173)
Isn't it also when you freeze between each shot as well?

no, but it could be both.

GenoIndeed 02-10-2016 07:00 AM

As a pker, i prefer no freeze due to having to fight multiple people. In spar tho, both are beneficial in their own ways, no freeze benefits offense and freeze benefits defensive actions, like if you keep track of the opponents clip you can know when to rush or reload

PigParty 02-10-2016 12:15 PM

Someone with skill shouldn't need reload freeze to win. They still can't shoot while you can, so you should be able to hit them, even if they move. The whole strategy of spar is to guess their next move and hit them there.

Alexmo 02-10-2016 12:46 PM

Please no just no I once stopped playing zone because of this

GenoIndeed 02-10-2016 01:25 PM

The only bebefit i see in freeze reload is gives you a chance to hit someone in spar. That seems to be it really, its horrible for pking and leand more on the bad side in basing

PigParty 02-10-2016 01:31 PM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 670293)
The only bebefit i see in freeze reload is gives you a chance to hit someone in spar. That seems to be it really, its horrible for pking and leand more on the bad side in basing

Exactly correct. I view Zone's PVP like I do Halo's... PVP should be fast-paced, bullets flying everywhere, nonstop moving & dodging & crap going on everywhere 24/7.

Chimi 02-10-2016 04:29 PM

Your guyses assumptions on the pking is just wrong cause pking was great with freeze reload back then. Aero hit 100k with it no problem. It requires more aim and precision to get kills yes, but thats the benefit of the gameplay. Now pking is just anyone with a good gun can rush around skybase and get kills. In terms of balancing guns clip size and reloads don't really apply to guns now, they are basically bottomless clips that have an ever so slight pause. As of now all the OP guns are mainly ones that shoot fast or shoot decently fast but have high damage. Rippers-WhisperWind-Rail-Alien-Heartbreaker are examples. However if you give high damage and low firerate they are really useless such as Sting-BlueChristmas-Kv24, then theres guns that are just bad all around like Green-red-atom-etc. But the point is that theres a less requirement on skills needed to win. This game isnt HALO or COD this is Zone its unique in its own way and id like things to be the way they were suppose to be from the start. Guns will never be ballanced at this rate. Speed Guns are best and slow guns are useless, no matter the damage, cause aiming is almost pointless cause people have bottomless clips.

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 670229)
As a pker, i prefer no freeze due to having to fight multiple people. In spar tho, both are beneficial in their own ways, no freeze benefits offense and freeze benefits defensive actions, like if you keep track of the opponents clip you can know when to rush or reload

Time your dodges in between bullets, its alot more satisfying then running away, or draining ur ammo in their geanral direction to get a kill.

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Posted by PigParty (Post 670273)
Someone with skill shouldn't need reload freeze to win. They still can't shoot while you can, so you should be able to hit them, even if they move. The whole strategy of spar is to guess their next move and hit them there.

Pigparty you have no say in any of this concidering you have little to no exp with the new system, and its not really skill when everyone just wall grinds and spams bullets, and yes i can still win either way but its not about winning its about the ballance and people atcually using strategy rather than relying on high rof to bottomless clip kill people.

And i will say this. That during reload freeze there wasnt really any complaints except when you were pking there would be a stray that would hit you when ur reloading and low hp, but honestly it was more something people laughed about

GenoIndeed 02-10-2016 05:05 PM

I also pked to 100k with it, and im pking to 200k without it, i much prefer it without freeze because i usually have to chase people and pausing can screw up getting kills. I dont think freeze has anything to do with pking at skybase, its the base itself thats the issue, being the only skybase. One thing also is not every gun is intended to be used in spar, stingrays for example are bad spar guns but decent pk guns, and the same with guns that are better for spar than pk, such as the heartbreaker. Honestly its only been sparrers that bring up the freeze reload, and while i can see yalls points, i gotta look at both sides of things and see which will play out best, and thats not just with current guns but with how the new system will be when its added. As of right now its not gonna be added due to this current system is getting ready to change, but when the new system is rolled out i'm gonna need to know if freeze reload will benefit it or not, which is why im trying to get everyones opinions on it.


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