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Shurikan 12-21-2014 04:14 PM

Is there a reason for why trading would be bad?
 
Hey guys, its been awhile since I have messed around on classic. While I was on exploring and checking out the most recent additions I just wondered if there was a reason why trading does not yet exist on iClassic.

Obviously the ability to create a trading system exist, and we can see and even model our trading off of games like Tf2 and other MMOs. (Where the results are very effective and add a whole new layer to the gaming community. Figuring iClassic is a very social game I feel as if it would go very well.)

Like most people I just think it would be cool to sell, trade, and give items such as hats, furniture, gralats, and even loot to my friends.

Maybe I am overlooking a big detail, I honestly don't think the reason would be scamming (and with a proper trade system it would be very difficult to get scammed), so feel free to enlighten me or help change my opinion.

Zetectic 12-21-2014 04:45 PM

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26627

Shurikan 12-21-2014 04:54 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 528681)

That is cool but does not answer my question on why trading would be a bad idea. That post is just people saying they are for or against trading.

(people may be annoyed by scrubs asking for trades but that is not a reasonable argument as they can be blocked or set to friends pm only)

Myst 12-21-2014 05:21 PM

There seems to be plausible reason against trading that i can think of, like seriously most games and graal servers have a trading system..

Tyree 12-21-2014 05:35 PM

You trade items that are meant to be "rare" and then they wont be rare anymore. Like reselling. And instead of "you had to be online in 2010 to get this item" it would be "a noob can get this item when joining a day ago"

Common Sense 12-21-2014 05:38 PM

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Posted by Tyree (Post 528691)
You trade items that are meant to be "rare" and then they wont be rare anymore. Like reselling. And instead of "you had to be online in 2010 to get this item" it would be "a noob can get this item when joining a day ago"

I'm confused: why would you trade with someone who joined in a day? What notable items would they even have? And why would you give them a 2010 hat?

Santa Claus 12-21-2014 05:59 PM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 528692)
I'm confused: why would you trade with someone who joined in a day? What notable items would they even have? And why would you give them a 2010 hat?

^^^^

SleezyMcFlurr 12-21-2014 07:21 PM

There has to be a major detail or flaw in the system that we are all overlooking.

Admiral 12-21-2014 08:14 PM

Does Classic need it?

HON3Y BADG3R 12-21-2014 09:39 PM

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Posted by Reece (Post 528730)
Does Classic need it?

This. How necessary is it to trade? Guild hats would become worthless and mean nothing, scamming everywhere, and you could make 100s of noob accounts and trade the money over to your main.

Thallen 12-21-2014 10:30 PM

I can name about 50 reasons, but I know it'll be a waste of time.

One of the main ones that you can consider is how easy it would be to manipulate. What would you be able to trade? Items? Are you wanting staff to make special exceptions for GST or event items? Seasonal items? Hats? What about GST hats? Tower hats? Seasonal hats? If no to all of them, then's the point? If yes:
  • I can manipulate the rewards system in towering by giving many to noob accounts to trade later
  • I can turn the GST into a boring joke (more than already)
  • I am no longer excited for seasonal events, and the little excitement they provide anyway, because I can just get everything at a later time

And so on, etc.

The only purpose I see a trading system would serve is to give players things they don't deserve. I feel like the integrity of towers, spars, and seasonal stuff should remain limited to the people who were actually a part of it. If not, they end up losing all meaning and it becomes boring as hell.

Cody 12-22-2014 12:30 AM

The three main reasons I see the most for no trade systems are: the Rarity of an item will drop, that items given at a special event should only be given to the players who were apart of that event and that there is no monetary gain when using the trade system.

For the first two reasons. It's the player's choice if he/she wants to trade that item, nobody else's. In case you're worried that's its rarity will go down let's use a 1k has an example. 25 people get the hat 1 person decides to give their hat to another person. How many hats are there now? Still 25. Now if it's an old 1k most people are zealous about those hats and will probably not be traded. Now let's take a look at a nexus item. Let's say a person bought an item from nexus and does not need it or really care for it anymore. Now a friend comes and ask if he/she can have that item, why would someone not give that item to a friend? Because somebody said that the friend was not on for nexus so therefore they do not deserve it?

For monetary values why not make the trade system cost $1 from the shop. Kinda like you would have to do for gh/ character slots. Or you could just charge 50 gralats to use it.

Sardon 12-22-2014 12:37 AM

Well we have already a scam free easter egg trade system theirs no scamming in that

We could use that idea!

Also it would kinda be nice for some players who quit to give their items to their friend

An issue though is the rich noobs will get anything because they will probaly pay you 100k for your 2010 morph.


rarity will no longuer be a thing and the game will suck

Ryjofa Rage* 12-22-2014 12:49 AM

Is there a reason for why trading would be bad?
 
Quote:

Posted by HON3Y BADG3R (Post 528746)
This. How necessary is it to trade? Guild hats would become worthless and mean nothing, scamming everywhere, and you could make 100s of noob accounts and trade the money over to your main.


Guild hats wouldn't be tradable, and I know on other severs you can't trade over the same IP.

freakytree 12-22-2014 01:27 AM

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Posted by Ryjofa Rage* (Post 528790)
on other severs you can't trade over the same IP.

Yeah but its the easiest thing to have someone help you trade


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