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Liam Kelly 07-23-2014 03:11 PM

The top 100 guilds.
 
Lately with all of the hat chasing guilds popping out of nowhere the top 100 guild list has become less and less of an achievement to be on, which is why I think that changing it to the top 10 would be cool. Just imagine, maybe some of those guilds who originally thought they would stop at 1k would try for 5k so they could be on it, we all know how much people like being on lists after the whole baddy kill leaderboard thing. Thoughts?

Demrow 07-23-2014 04:03 PM

The top 100 guilds are soley based on castling? That's a problem.

Thallen 07-23-2014 06:35 PM

it's not a bad idea, it's just that I don't see that it'd be very effective
very few "1k guilds" care about being on the leaderboard I think, it's more just about reaching that goal and then getting the hat - I personally don't care much about being visible on the boards with Voxel and SF, they are so glitchy anyway, guilds just randomly disappear sometimes

-Fin* 07-23-2014 07:07 PM

They should just have a scroll on the list and list all 1k guilds

GOAT 07-23-2014 07:31 PM

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Posted by Liam Kelly (Post 492462)
we all know how much people like being on lists after the whole baddy kill leaderboard thing.

we knew that since the pk leader board came out :P

people also love being the "first" to do something :D

Liam Kelly 07-23-2014 10:34 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 492500)
it's not a bad idea, it's just that I don't see that it'd be very effective
very few "1k guilds" care about being on the leaderboard I think, it's more just about reaching that goal and then getting the hat - I personally don't care much about being visible on the boards with Voxel and SF, they are so glitchy anyway, guilds just randomly disappear sometimes

But even if it didn't don't you think that it would add a whole new sense of accomplishment to going the extra mile rather than just stopping? I just think that it would be a lot cooler to look at a leaderboard with just the top 10 guilds rather than looking at nearly 100 1k guilds.

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Posted by GOAT (Post 492522)
we knew that since the pk leader board came out :P

people also love being the "first" to do something :D

True enough:P

Nanner 07-23-2014 10:44 PM

Then you may as well make it top 10 pk leaderboards and top 10 bk leaderboards and top 10 idevice/pc sparrers. No.

Colin 07-23-2014 10:45 PM

Pk and Bk is different Nanner lmao, I love this idea.

Nanner 07-23-2014 10:49 PM

Its not really different at all. There is so many 100k pk people on leaderboards and it will soon be filled with them, just like the guild leaderboard.

Colin 07-23-2014 11:01 PM

Yeah but people PK way past 100k and the competition is still fresh, but with guilds they are stopping.

In other words, 1k will always be the minimum to get on the guild leaderboard, but with PK that minimum increases requiring more of it to be done.

Rufus 07-23-2014 11:19 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 492583)
Yeah but people PK way past 100k and the competition is still fresh, but with guilds they are stopping.

In other words, 1k will always be the minimum to get on the guild leaderboard, but with PK that minimum increases requiring more of it to be done.

The logic behind this is wrong. If the leaderboard only has 100 places, guilds interested in featuring on it will need to continue because you are going to need to at least have more time accumulated than the 100th entry. This is a continuous process and the bar will always be raised.

Colin 07-23-2014 11:26 PM

I don't think getting one or two minutes higher than the 100th entry is really "raising the bar".

Also, those 100 people in the PK leader board are ranked out of the 2000+ players.

With guilds it is the top 100 out of like what 150-200 that tower? (Let's not forget multiple 1k guilds were lead by the same people instead of just towering in one guild so that alone has already caused a fault in the leader board)

CM 07-23-2014 11:30 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 492589)
The logic behind this is wrong. If the leaderboard only has 100 places, guilds interested in featuring on it will need to continue because you are going to need to at least have more time accumulated than the 100th entry. This is a continuous process and the bar will always be raised.

That's why there are 100+ guilds that stopped at 1k, correct? You say that it is a continuous process, but I have seen nothing be changed over the past few years. Also, towering isn't necessarily the same thing as PK. With PK, it only requires one person and you can get a kill within twenty seconds. It takes an hour to get, well, an hour when towering, and it requires more people. PKing only requires one person. The bar isn't being raised, it's still stuck at 1k hours and isn't going up anytime soon. The only thing you need to do to get on the leaderboard is to get a few more hours after 1k. Even if a guild is bumped off the leaderboard, they probably don't care as they've already met their goal and they don't care about the leaderboard. All they care about is the prize.

Rufus 07-23-2014 11:36 PM

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Posted by CM CM (Post 492595)
Even if a guild is bumped off the leaderboard, they probably don't care as they've already met their goal and they don't care about the leaderboard. All they care about is the prize.

Yeah, well, this suggestion and its current iteration do nothing to address that. If a guild cares enough to be on the leaderboard it will continue.

Kendama 07-23-2014 11:39 PM

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Posted by CM CM (Post 492595)
That's why there are 100+ guilds that stopped at 1k, correct? You say that it is a continuous process, but I have seen nothing be changed over the past few years. Also, towering isn't necessarily the same thing as PK. With PK, it only requires one person and you can get a kill within twenty seconds. It takes an hour to get, well, an hour when towering, and it requires more people. PKing only requires one person. The bar isn't being raised, it's still stuck at 1k hours and isn't going up anytime soon. The only thing you need to do to get on the leaderboard is to get a few more hours after 1k. Even if a guild is bumped off the leaderboard, they probably don't care as they've already met their goal and they don't care about the leaderboard. All they care about is the prize.

Yes but once every guild starts accumulating these "few hours over 1k" then future guilds will have to go on even farther than that to beat that record. This keeps happening over time and the leader board standards will rise.

Keep in mind there will always be guilds that for some reason just want a hat and do not care about the leaderboard. So yeah of course they aren't going to try to strive any higher, they would rather create another guild and rush to 1k again for another hat.

I remember the days when a guild with 50 hours made the leaderboard.


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