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Westbrook Graal 07-02-2018 01:25 AM

As of now,
lebron signed to lakers
pg13 to okc
KD to gsw
ariza to suns
deandre jordan to mavericks


first of all, the lakers won't make finals before someone says it. that team is actual garbage. it's a lottery team with no star added in lebron, which means they're actually worse than the cavaliers which had kevin love + other decent people. the ONLY way this trash ass team will contend will be if they get boogie/kawhi/some other scrappy underdogs who can play defense and hit shots when needed. Otherwise this team is destined to draft top14 next year. Cavaliers problems were that the young/new guys were choking with their playoff inexperience so there's no doubt a ineffecient chuck like lonzo ball or brandon ingram will put up abysmal stats in the playoffs. Put any western conference playoff team from last season into the east and they become the #1 seed playing against the weak east teams. This ******ed ass nlgga lebron gonna have 3 torn ACLs carrying those bums every night because now in the regular season he'll be facing better people.

No doubt east will be pacers/celtics finals, and west will be rockets/warriors. Maybe lakers can have a shot at contending 19-20 if they also get some nice moves there. No idea why these delusional lakers fans think the "lakers are back" now, they literally got one dude who got 0-4'd to the first good team he faced.

Forgot to mention this, but the nuggets are going to contend soon. Steal of the draft getting a predicted #1 pick at #14. Again, this is only because of injuries though. If porter jr. is healthy he'll be a star and this team will go far. Murray-harris-porter jr-millsap-jokic. The offensive skill is actually insane. Not sure if they'll have will barton though, if they havent already lost him he'll probs pursue a starting role on a different team.

Furthermore, dennis schroder is GONE from the hawks. That idiotic perpetual lottery team drafted a player which played the position they needed least, and dennis schroder must be pretty pissed he's worked his ass off trying to carry that team only to have his starting spot put into liability by a rookie.

Weeno 07-02-2018 02:17 AM

Lebron joined the lakers time to shoot my self

Bryan* 07-02-2018 03:15 AM

1. Lebron faced many of the greatest teams in the Finals (Spurs / OKC) with the exception of the veteran-led team of the Mavericks. The Warriors aren’t the only first good team he’s faced lol.

2. Don’t doubt this Lakers squad because the trio of Lonzo, Ingram and Kuzma are projected to be future all-stars. Lonzo has shown elite-level defense during the second half of his rookie season, Kuzma shown he’s a volume shooter, and Ingram is versatile at both ends of the court. The Lakers have the pieces to be at least 4th this upcoming season with the addition of Lebron.

3. Don’t know how the East is weak when there was at least 8 teams that went plus .500 against Western conference teams in 17-18 season. The Celtics were 22-8 against Western teams. Don’t sleep on the Celtics, 76ers, or the Pacers either.

Overall, this has become an interesting offseason so far.

Aguzo 07-02-2018 04:39 AM

lakers team still young and gaining experience, they will do better this season
wonder if IT will be stayin

Westbrook Graal 07-02-2018 01:46 PM

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1. Lebron faced many of the greatest teams in the Finals (Spurs / OKC) with the exception of the veteran-led team of the Mavericks. The Warriors aren’t the only first good team he’s faced lol.

2. Don’t doubt this Lakers squad because the trio of Lonzo, Ingram and Kuzma are projected to be future all-stars. Lonzo has shown elite-level defense during the second half of his rookie season, Kuzma shown he’s a volume shooter, and Ingram is versatile at both ends of the court. The Lakers have the pieces to be at least 4th this upcoming season with the addition of Lebron.

3. Don’t know how the East is weak when there was at least 8 teams that went plus .500 against Western conference teams in 17-18 season. The Celtics were 22-8 against Western teams. Don’t sleep on the Celtics, 76ers, or the Pacers either.

Overall, this has become an interesting offseason so far.

A team of sophmore/junior/rookie season players + lebron will never contend. They'll only ever contend vs teams such as houston/gsw if they add 2 more stars, which simply won't happen.
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This is the star the lakers are bringing in to support lebron, javale macgee lmfaoo. they signed caldwell pope/lance stephenson also who are decent bench players but not franchise altering. maybe if they trade lonzo and ingram for a star PG like kemba and sign boogie they could beat the rockets or warriors in 7.

Mark my words, if the lakers manage to make playoffs without signing other stars, it'll result in a 0-4 sweep by the first real team they face with ingram/kuzma/lonzo combining for 10 points on 20% fg. lonzo is an ineffecient chuck, so is ingram. kuzma has the potential but i don't see him putting up regular season numbers vs legitimate teams in playoff mode.

The east is weak when a team missing their 2 best players manages to hit the eastern conference finals and get within 1 game of the finals. Put almost any eastern conference playoff team in the west and they become lottery teams, it's just a fact. Do you really think the wizards, heat, pacers could make playoffs when they're vsing the warriors 4 times a season and not the nets/knicks/hornets etc;?

Weeno 07-02-2018 03:49 PM

Lebron shouldn’t have joined the lakers. Here’s why:

1. He’s ruining his on-paper career. He’s not gonna be remembered as a laker he’s going to be remembered as a cavalier and heat. Him joining the lakers is like MJ joining the wizards. Kobe,Shaq,Kareem. Magic, they’re all going to overshadow his legacy.

2. His chances of making it to the finals are so much lower now. He’s gonna have to go through teams like the warriors, rockets, pelicans, and maybe even the thunder if Russ changes him self a bit.

3. His teammates aren’t ready. The pressure these rookies have to go through when playing alongside Lebron is gonna be too much to handle. They’re either gonna develop well with him or not. And the chances of them not developing is much higher cause they’re playing with a ball dominant player that makes his players become spot up shooters. And we all know Lonzo’s shooting.

But wait, isn’t Kawhi going to join him? No, the spurs would never trade their star mvp candidate to the west, let alone to the same team Kawhi wants to go to. The lakers aren’t getting another superstar but the looks of how much people they just signed and resigned. And the spurs would be dumb to ruin their own competition by putting Kawhi into a western team

Aguzo 07-02-2018 04:00 PM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 814684)
Lebron shouldn’t have joined the lakers. Here’s why:

1. He’s ruining his on-paper career. He’s not gonna be remembered as a laker he’s going to be remembered as a cavalier and heat. Him joining the lakers is like MJ joining the wizards. Kobe,Shaq,Kareem. Magic, they’re all going to overshadow his legacy.

2. His chances of making it to the finals are so much lower now. He’s gonna have to go through teams like the warriors, rockets, pelicans, and maybe even the thunder if Russ changes him self a bit.

3. His teammates aren’t ready. The pressure these rookies have to go through when playing alongside Lebron is gonna be too much to handle. They’re either gonna develop well with him or not. And the chances of them not developing is much higher cause they’re playing with a ball dominant player that makes his players become spot up shooters. And we all know Lonzo’s shooting.

But wait, isn’t Kawhi going to join him? No, the spurs would never trade their star mvp candidate to the west, let alone to the same team Kawhi wants to go to. The lakers aren’t getting another superstar but the looks of how much people they just signed and resigned. And the spurs would be dumb to ruin their own competition by putting Kawhi into a western team

there are 154 million reasons on why he should join
he is gonna gain a bit more than he would have in cleveland, so it's prob not so much about the money. I'm sure they have a plan on getting the right squad in order to win in the next 4 years

Comyt 07-02-2018 05:56 PM

rn if every remaining free agent resigns with their team, imo:

western conference:

1. warriors 2. rockets 3. spurs 4. lakers 5. clippers 6. pelicans 7. jazz 8. nuggets 9. thunder 10. trailblazers 11. timberwolves 12. mavericks 13. kings 14. suns 15. grizzlies

EVERY top 11 team has a chance to make the playoffs, huge dropoff at 12, really speaks to the strength of the western conference. also note that any team between 4 and 11 is nearly interchangeable.

biggest potential movers: spurs will fall far if kawhi leonard is traded, clippers will fall far if they can’t resign avery bradley/montrezl harrell (marcin gortat was a good pickup to replace deandre jordan imo), pelicans will fall far if they can’t resign rajon rondo/demarcus cousins, jazz will barely drop without derrick favors. kings can move up from 13 to 12 if they use all of their cap space to sign a decent player. lakers will definitely be a playoff team with lebron james, if all-time most overrated player kobe bryant carried trash to the playoffs, the GOAT should easily be able to do it, but they won’t last long in the western conference playoffs.

eastern conference:

1. celtics 2. 76ers 3. raptors 4. pacers 5. bucks 6. wizards 7. cavaliers 8. pistons 9. heat 10. hornets 11. knicks 12. hawks 13. nets 14. bulls 15. magic

celtics will easily grab the 1 seed and a finals appearance, will be a dynasty for a long time. cavaliers will still make the playoffs, the narrative that lebron “had no help” was simply not true and only to distract from the fact that he was struggling against an improved eastern conference. george hill/rodney hood/kyle korver/kevin love/tristan thompson are still great players, just hard to see that in an offense where they are barely moving because tyronn lue is having lebron play disgusting iso ball on every possession. i believe the top 8 playoff positions are locked down, massive dropoff after the pistons, who aren’t that great themselves. magic are doomed to stay at 15 no matter what happens, nets did a good job somehow improving with no draft choices, bulls suck at drafting, hawks success dependent on supremely overrated player trae young. only possible movement is bucks trading places with wizards without jabari, though there is a massive gap in talent between these two teams.

edit: top 8 combined imo:
1. warriors 2. celtics 3. rockets 4. 76ers 5. raptors 6. spurs 7. pacers 8. lakers

Westbrook Graal 07-02-2018 07:15 PM

Comet are you actually insane? The raptors are a trash team that only perform in the regular season, every season they have a "new playbook" and "more ball movement" yet they get swept as soon as the playoffs get real. They are actually and by far the most overrated team in the nba.

The clippers? really? they just lost one of their best players, who was replaced with marcin gortat. Thunder will be top4 if they get a new coach and replace melo with a guy like kevin love who can 3 + D. also if roberson improves his offense or they get avery bradley to replace. Pelicans need to RESIGN boogie and TRADE him for a elite small forward, maybe the celtics will trade hayward for boggie and move horford to PF. would make their starting 5 unbeatable

Weeno 07-02-2018 07:23 PM

Comyt. Even with DJ the clippers will still miss the playoffs. They were actually one game away from the 8th seed so maybe they can but with the pelicans getting Boogie back and Rondo will probably take the 8th

Comyt 07-02-2018 07:57 PM

yes raptors are absolute trash in the playoffs but that is how their regular season standings will turn out once again. my ranking is entirely regular season standings predictions, nothing more. also you guys fail to realize that the clippers were playing many of those games without patrick beverley, avery bradley, and milos teodosic. they replaced deandre jordan who is literally just catch lobs and rebound with a very serviceable center in marcin gortat (yes he is worse but he is not a bad player), while at the same time removing a player with a negative impact on their games in austin rivers. if the clippers somehow retain their free agents and have a rotation with patrick beverley, lou williams, milos teodosic, avery bradley, danilo gallinari, the supremely underrated tobias harris, montrezl harrell, marcin gortat, to go along with their high energy bench role players, i think they’ll easily improve from last season’s results.

interesting stat: among all qualified players montrezl harrell ranked 12th in the NBA in PER last season

also if boogie and kawhi BOTH join lebron on the lakers they are winning a championship, all three of these players are top 10 in the league imo, with boogie being 1A/1B for best big man in the NBA with anthony davis


adding a bit as an NBA stat nerd:
patrick beverley played in just 11 games, avery bradley 6.
meanwhile, this team was so plagued by injuries that they STARTED:
sindarious thornwell 17 times, “jamil wilson” (???) 10 times, tyrone wallace 19 times, wesley johnson 40 times, austin rivers 59 times, jawun evans 4 times, and even gave one start to sam dekker of all people.
of course some of these starts were to cheese lou williams (19 starts) into winning sixth man of the year but still

Weeno 07-02-2018 08:51 PM

Lakers running outta money tho with javale and lance. I also heard Lopez was gonna resign? Spurs wouldn’t trade to the west either. Boogie may or may not stay with the pelicans

Comyt 07-02-2018 09:29 PM

and the lakers just signed rondo. playoff rondo, playoff lance, AND lebron james? they will probably still lose in western conference semis. pelicans taking a huge blow for this one, moving them to 8th behind the nuggets.

Weeno 07-02-2018 09:49 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 814707)
and the lakers just signed rondo. playoff rondo, playoff lance, AND lebron james? they will probably still lose in western conference semis. pelicans taking a huge blow for this one, moving them to 8th behind the nuggets.

KMS RONDO. WAS MY FAVORITE POINT GUARD NOW HE LEAVES MY TEAM TO RING CHASE. SCREW THE NBA

Westbrook Graal 07-02-2018 10:26 PM

Gl pairing rondo with lebron. Will not work at all unless theyre never on the floor at the same time. This isn't nba 2k these guys have a mind of their own

Isiah thomas definitely gone now, lebron hates that midget. Imo they resign isaih and trade him for a 3 + D guy.
If the lakers can do this they will contend
PG: Trey Burke Backup: Rondo
SG: Caldwell Pope Backup: Johnathan Simmons
SF: Lebron Backup: Shabazz Muhammed
PF: Blake Griffin Backup: Kuzma
C: Hassan Whiteside: Backup Javale Macgee


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