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Chaotic 12-21-2011 06:00 PM

How to make GraalOnline Zone suceed
 
Now, when Zone comes out, you can either make it or break it. With iEra, you released the paid version first instead of the free version. If you released the free version first, you would of gotten a lot more traffic, since iClassic averages about 1k people on and iEra about 600, they all would of wanted to try out the new server. But only about 1/4 of them pay, so that hurts the playercount by a lot for the new server. Plus, if it was free off the start, everyone would download it, and increasing the downloads of it may put it in the top 300, where lots of people would see it, and be potential customers in the long run.

tl;dr release free version of iZone first so more people download it off the start to put it in top 300 apps.

MattKan 12-21-2011 06:49 PM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 46647)
tl;dr release free version of iZone first so more people download it off the start to put it in top 300 apps.

Yeah, much much more money would be earned in the long run if the game made it high in the app charts.

Plus there's nothing to say you can't make an ad on Classic and Era saying (Download (link) iZone today for free!)

Froggy Krueger 12-21-2011 10:16 PM

Why not release em both at the same time, rather than stagger them? That way, we have the option ^^

Zero02 12-21-2011 11:34 PM

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Posted by Froggy Krueger (Post 46745)
Why not release em both at the same time, rather than stagger them? That way, we have the option ^^

You have a point, if there's a problem with releasing one, why not release both version at same time?

MattKan 12-22-2011 12:08 AM

If both versions are released at the same time then they will be two seperate apps which most likely won't be able to reach the app charts.

HappyCat123 12-22-2011 12:18 AM

Make one app, then in the menu of the app have a section for 'upgrading' for 2 dollars.

Imprint 12-22-2011 06:10 AM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 46647)
Now, when Zone comes out, you can either make it or break it. With iEra, you released the paid version first instead of the free version. If you released the free version first, you would of gotten a lot more traffic, since iClassic averages about 1k people on and iEra about 600, they all would of wanted to try out the new server. But only about 1/4 of them pay, so that hurts the playercount by a lot for the new server. Plus, if it was free off the start, everyone would download it, and increasing the downloads of it may put it in the top 300, where lots of people would see it, and be potential customers in the long run.

tl;dr release free version of iZone first so more people download it off the start to put it in top 300 apps.

They're trying to bank on the fact that people will be so excited for the new server that they'll buy the paid version instead of waiting for a free version to see whether they like it or not. Considering Graal will probably not end up on the top app charts they should be making more money by milking the player base with access to their mommy's credit cards.

Joey 12-22-2011 06:55 AM

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Posted by HappyCat123 (Post 46821)
Make one app, then in the menu of the app have a section for 'upgrading' for 2 dollars.

thats what i was thinking.
dont have a free or paid version. have a GraalOnline Zone.
when u open it theres all the free versions features, but u simply upgrade in one bundle to the paid version. that way the free app goes high in the charts, and u dont have the app downloads staggered from 2 dif apps
good idea street.

and actually u can have ads saying "download the new app! (link)" becuz like on battleonline u can have the somewhat login screen with ads on it. on that screen u could check news, check friends, go to the game, dif stuff. so if u wanted to go through the trouble, u could remake the title screens of classic and era so its like battle online.

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Posted by DrDoctor (Post 46968)
They're trying to bank on the fact that people will be so excited for the new server that they'll buy the paid version instead of waiting for a free version to see whether they like it or not. Considering Graal will probably not end up on the top app charts they should be making more money by milking the player base with access to their mommy's credit cards.

um i remember era, classic AND battle online were all in the top 100 apps in the free section, but ive never seen them in paid section. yet i bought the full version of all three apps.

Froggy Krueger 12-22-2011 11:27 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 46814)
If both versions are released at the same time then they will be two seperate apps which most likely won't be able to reach the app charts.

You do have a point. If Zone+ was released say 2 weeks after, they'd have more players willing to buy it, possibly leading to the paid version making it into the top 100, or at least the new and hot like Era+ did when it was released.

MattKan 12-23-2011 12:19 AM

If they were to release only a free version with in app purchases it would go even further up the charts.

0ddball 12-23-2011 12:26 AM

I will play iZone even if it suck. That's it.

Crest 12-23-2011 10:28 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 47237)
If they were to release only a free version with in app purchases it would go even further up the charts.

I agree.

Death Knight 12-24-2011 04:37 AM

As much as I love your logical ideas that won't happen all they care about is the money and 'they' think they will get it if paid is released first

Xavier 12-24-2011 05:19 PM

Make one free iZone app, and have the customization pack for $0.99 in the Shop menu. Done.

Emera 12-24-2011 05:29 PM

In an ideal world, all this in-app purchase nonsense would be completely abolished and tiny things like customization should be free to all. I agree that the Gralat pack should be kept however.

DragonRider 12-25-2011 12:53 AM

Or here's a magical idea: make it GOOD. But of course, this is Stefan we're talking about, not snk. So that idea pretty much died before it got off the ground.

Shock 12-26-2011 07:45 PM

Yeah, no Zone+. why have multiple apps anyway? They need to think about the players. Not the cash. If the game is good and the staff is nice and reliable like era, it will flourish. I think zone has a lot of untapped potential.

Rexx 12-27-2011 12:11 AM

Make this game about gameplay not virtual dress up and dating

D-Vader 12-27-2011 08:46 PM

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Posted by Rexx (Post 48600)
Make this game about gameplay not virtual dress up and dating

Great idea there. But that's the players' faults, not the game's.

Maikeru 12-28-2011 04:34 AM

Less guns, more mini-games..
Thats all you need to make iZone a really amazing server

iHot 12-29-2011 01:25 AM

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 49042)
Less guns, more mini-games..
Thats all you need to make iZone a really amazing server

Yeah i know we dont want star wars.

Charles 12-29-2011 07:13 AM

You can release it at the same time. Just put: "Before you buy Zone+ you should buy off the free version first." That's it. Period.

This idea can make Zone and Zone+ on app chart.

Rexx 12-30-2011 10:35 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 49379)
Yeah i know we dont want star wars.

star wars is awesome

Chaotic 01-02-2012 11:40 PM

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 49042)
Less guns, more mini-games..
Thats all you need to make iZone a really amazing server

Except Zone needs guns?

Imprint 01-03-2012 05:31 AM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 51648)
Except Zone needs guns?

I think he means more variety in the gameplay instead of the normal pking and towers.

BabyGhost 01-12-2012 01:29 AM

Balanced weapons....please.....

qes 01-18-2012 02:10 AM

IF A TYPE OF GANG OR GUILD SYSTEM IS ADDED DO NOT ADD ALLIES, it abviously ruined iclassic,people cant read "alllies" yet they use then for subs

°Seeker99 01-18-2012 04:08 AM

I think there should be an experiment where we take some good Dev's from Graalians and allow them to make a server for iPhone. Then we get the community to give it feedback. Worst case scenario it doesn't see the light of day, but no money was lost.


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