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Chaotic 08-26-2012 10:10 PM

Player Hosted Auctions
 
This isn't guarenteed, this is just me writing down my thoughts on the idea.

Instead of a trading system, maybe a Player Hosted Auction system would work better. Players could choose what item to auction (could restrict certain items such as items you buy in a store players couldn't buy an item and auction it for a higher price to unaware players), how long to auction it for, and maybe a minimum bid. Players could auction their own items and reduce spam for staff to host auctions all the time, and fix the timezone problem of auctions.

To prevent players going in a low populated room and giving items to friends for a low price/not making much money on an item, if it doesn't reach a certain amount of money, the player gets their item back. Maybe limit the amount of auctions a player can host a day so players don't get rich quick and ruin the economy.

Anyways, this is just me writing down my thoughts on this concept. Thoughts on this?

poorface 08-26-2012 10:16 PM

Nice idea :)

Jester Lapse 08-26-2012 10:17 PM

Player Hosted Auctions
 
Players can put up their items for auction
Dropping is disabled for all items in return
Player Makes profit on highest bidder of item, highest bidder of course gets the item
Every item has a baseline of what it has to sell for so people don't get jipped? like BAR minimum is 100K (Half it's price) etc
Thoughts?
(Idea by Chaotic)

Reason being if we are to take away dropping items, people will still want a way to give away items or offload some. This was you can't be scammed and you make profit.

Motrox 08-26-2012 10:19 PM

Good idea

NCJohn 08-26-2012 10:21 PM

Win-Win

MementoJoker 08-26-2012 10:22 PM

Yes, yes, yes!

NCJohn 08-26-2012 10:23 PM

Great idea

Jester Lapse 08-26-2012 10:23 PM

oh you made one already lmao #fail

Motrox 08-26-2012 10:27 PM

Also could there be an infinite number of auction rooms?
So players who want to auction off there items don't have to wait for a room to open.

LordBryson 08-26-2012 10:27 PM

but what if the player doesnt like the price they ended up selling their item for? It will lead to more complaining

Jester Lapse 08-26-2012 10:29 PM

every item has a baseline of what it has to sell for so people don't get jipped? like BAR minimum is 100K (Half it's price) etc

Chaotic 08-26-2012 10:34 PM

Can't figure out to merge threads

Dude1310 08-26-2012 10:34 PM

Great idea. But about the "minimum bid," what if a player just spams an auction everyday: They put up a worthless item and make the minimum bid 800k and make the time a couple hours. That would just waste time for other player auctions. Maybe if the minimum bid for the same player isn't reached after they've tried several times they would be banned from player auctions for a week (can't enter the player auction level).

Xaldin 08-26-2012 10:35 PM

they wont allow it. Players can buy cheaper guns etc...

Jester Lapse 08-26-2012 10:36 PM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 187352)
Can't figure out to merge threads

ask ruf or cat lol. I thought you said make one, not that you were making one x-x

Chaotic 08-26-2012 10:38 PM

Maybe player's can vote to end an auction and if it reaches a certain amount of votes the item and money are returned to their owners

Ventus277 08-26-2012 10:38 PM

Sounds reasonable. I have no complaints to this idea.

Jester Lapse 08-26-2012 10:40 PM

or make the minimum bid the half point value of the items original cost,
ex: BAR minimum=100k

Chaotic 08-26-2012 10:44 PM

Ok merged

プリンセスさくら2 08-26-2012 10:53 PM

cute idea

Wonderful philosophy

OK

Good luck to success of this topic^^

fsh 08-26-2012 10:55 PM

ok

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SnakeRekon 08-26-2012 11:16 PM

I don't like this idea.
We shouldn't have anything based on where players are recieiving an item cheaper than anywhere else.
Bad bad idea.

Gamelova 08-26-2012 11:34 PM

Haha Jester you've said bar for half price three times, edit post.

poorface 08-26-2012 11:36 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 187390)
I don't like this idea.
We shouldn't have anything based on where players are recieiving an item cheaper than anywhere else.
Bad bad idea.

It's like a black market in the sense that you buy and resell things, and as BBoy said, this is a modern server. If you ask me, a black market is pretty darn modern, isn't it?

SnakeRekon 08-26-2012 11:38 PM

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Posted by poorface (Post 187415)
It's like a black market in the sense that you buy and resell things, and as BBoy said, this is a modern server. If you ask me, a black market is pretty darn modern, isn't it?

It may be modern, but it's not healthy for the server in the slightest x.x
Players will start just buying stuff in this black market, so money only circulates around players :[

Jester Lapse 08-26-2012 11:41 PM

Not really, not everyone will be eager to auction off their best guns so players would still have to work to get those. This will also increase motive to add more guns to the server imo

Gamelova 08-26-2012 11:42 PM

If this is what the players what, give it to them. Otherwise, your going to loose more players. But then again, I bet were gaining more everyday... anyways if the "people" ask for a trading system, why not give it to them for now? If it causes trouble, remove it. ez.

Give the people what they want.

NCJohn 08-26-2012 11:44 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 187417)
It may be modern, but it's not healthy for the server in the slightest x.x
Players will start just buying stuff in this black market, so money only circulates around players :[

Maybe we could make it so VIP members can only host auctions and stefan could bump the cost up to 10k a month. That would bring in more money with VIP subscriptions and players could still auctions things.

SnakeRekon 08-26-2012 11:52 PM

In regards to Jester; **** no to auctionning your guns. HELL NO, never. Period.

Gamelova; I care not what the players want, when it'll damage the server more than do good, it is not wise just to add something so carefreely.

NCJ; The general idea of player auctions is horrible, 10k a month for selling a crapton of items..
people will start buying and selling, making huge profits.. It's not good.

Gamelova 08-26-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Posted by NCJohn (Post 187426)
Maybe we could make it so VIP members can only host auctions and stefan could bump the cost up to 10k a month. That would bring in more money with VIP subscriptions and players could still auctions things.

No, then classic should be 10k a month, and sometimes people wont buy the things you want to auction. Let that be free. And some people don't want the self auctions, not shouldn't be included in VIP? I agree with Snake on that.

Snake; of course it will cause problems. Real World Trading. Golden Katana for 5.99$ so that's one issue. Care to give others Snake?

Jester Lapse 08-27-2012 12:01 AM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 187429)
In regards to Jester; **** yes to auctionning your guns. HELL YES, you are awsome. Period.

thanks babe

Gamelova 08-27-2012 12:05 AM

LOL jester. must spred moar rep b4 giving to jester again xP

SnakeRekon 08-27-2012 12:07 AM

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Posted by Gamelova (Post 187433)
No, then classic should be 10k a month, and sometimes people wont buy the things you want to auction. Let that be free. And some people don't want the self auctions, not shouldn't be included in VIP? I agree with Snake on that.

Snake; of course it will cause problems. Real World Trading. Golden Katana for 5.99$ so that's one issue. Care to give others Snake?

Money will circulate around players, rich get richer, poor get poorer.
People using it to amass money e.g buy something cheap try sell it higher.
If money is circulating around players, this means money isn't leaving the economy and so what happens is there is so much money in the economy and prices don't go up so people just keep getting richer in the long run.

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 187434)
Loves the rear

No worries

Gamelova 08-27-2012 12:07 AM

Well there tons of online games where the players control those aspects. It's called a economy.

Jester Lapse 08-27-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 187438)
puts it in

not on the first date hun

SnakeRekon 08-27-2012 12:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by Gamelova (Post 187439)
Refer to runescape, kthxbye.


Graal isn't Runescape.
Era PC has been reset several times because of this problem.

Runescape was made with an economy in mind.
Graal, was not.

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 187440)
Anytime you like, i'm good to go, lube in hand

To eager for me.

Gamelova 08-27-2012 12:12 AM

So what are you going to do?

Quote:

Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 187441)
I like big butts and I cannot lie. Huge asses that jiggle... and wiggle.


Jester Lapse 08-27-2012 12:17 AM

Quote:

Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 187441)
im in the bed

im out the door

SnakeRekon 08-27-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Posted by Gamelova (Post 187442)
So what are you going to do?

Me personally? Nothing, I usually shoot down peoples ideas when they're being a little thoughtless on the overall effects of it. I do it with Snk, I'll do it with all. :)

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 187444)
im in the backdoor ;)

Take a hint, I only knock on the front door.

On a side note, sleep time.

Gamelova 08-27-2012 12:21 AM

Of course it's going to cause problems.

Jester Lapse 08-27-2012 12:30 AM

cri

fsh 08-27-2012 01:27 AM

if the price was too low couldnt the player have a cancel command?

XENA* 08-27-2012 03:28 AM

Great idea.

BabyGhost 08-27-2012 03:31 AM

At least selling rares such as souizen would be nice. Auction guns would be a good choice for player auctions.

Aleksandr 08-27-2012 04:35 AM

Opening a player mall, would be a good idea haha. Like, you can say /mall and it opens up a search bar where you can search for items you want. Each player gets a stand, if they pay for it of course. I was thinking a timer , like 1k gralats per hour or something. And the seller has a option of running a scaled price , EX: Shamrock Dagger price: 800+ gralats , you bid your price , get a notification if outbid. You can also run a one price -easier to make for devs- and just say , Shamrock dagger price: 1200 gralats, or a third option that's beneficial for the seller and the buyer of a item offer. Such as 2 crab daggers, or a clover+500 gralats . A very nice idea to add <3 just a idea.

Quote:

Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 187445)
Me personally? Nothing, I usually shoot down peoples ideas when they're being a little thoughtless on the overall effects of it. I do it with Snk, I'll do it with all. :)



Take a hint, I only knock on the front door.

On a side note, sleep time.

I . Knew. It.

fsh 08-27-2012 05:15 AM

also snake if the price was too low mabey have a npc already bid like half the amount then players will start bidding?


example: Hosted item: M3

NPC bid= 2500($)

Then players start bidding...

SnakeRekon 08-27-2012 07:57 AM

Quote:

Posted by fsh (Post 187598)
also snake if the price was too low mabey have a npc already bid like half the amount then players will start bidding?


example: Hosted item: M3

NPC bid= 2500($)

Then players start bidding...

No because the price will never achieve the price that it was originally bought for unless someone is uber stupid, it's bad for the game :[

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Posted by KeroObsidian (Post 187566)
Opening a player mall, would be a good idea haha. Like, you can say /mall and it opens up a search bar where you can search for items you want. Each player gets a stand, if they pay for it of course. I was thinking a timer , like 1k gralats per hour or something. And the seller has a option of running a scaled price , EX: Shamrock Dagger price: 800+ gralats , you bid your price , get a notification if outbid. You can also run a one price -easier to make for devs- and just say , Shamrock dagger price: 1200 gralats, or a third option that's beneficial for the seller and the buyer of a item offer. Such as 2 crab daggers, or a clover+500 gralats . A very nice idea to add <3 just a idea.



I dip my wick in apple pie.

No wai!

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Posted by fsh (Post 187472)
if the price was too low couldnt the player have a cancel command?

Then if they didn't get their money back, theyd cancel and keep doing it till they did

Jester Lapse 08-27-2012 08:23 AM

Game was made for the players. Quit being greedy and forget your stupid game and give the players what they want for once. For ****s sake you're adding candy land, and that's good for the "modern cops vs gangsters" game?

SnakeRekon 08-27-2012 08:28 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 187692)
Game was made for the players. Quit being greedy and forget your stupid game and give the players what they want for once. For ****s sake you're adding candy land, and that's good for the "modern cops vs gangsters" game?

Personally I didn't agree with CandyLand.
Game is made for players, game is made for business, business is made to make money.
It's not about greed Jester, it's about the life span of this game, so don't be an absolute bellend and actually think about it logically and read what people are actually saying. I see nothing of profit nor do I care about it, and my opinion is that it'll ruin the server.

Jester Lapse 08-27-2012 08:29 AM

My opinion is the server has already gone to ****


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