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iCool 08-26-2012 03:15 AM

Romney or Obama
 
which side are you on

Castør 08-26-2012 03:59 AM

Vermin Supreme.
http://www.verminsupreme.com/i/RideOurPonies.jpg

The Doctor 08-26-2012 04:09 AM

My name is Barack Obama and I approve this message.

NCJohn 08-26-2012 04:14 AM

I don't know if some of the members of this forum are mature enough to talk politics, let alone know enough to hold an intelligent political conversation.

DragonRider 08-26-2012 04:47 AM

http://troglopundit.files.wordpress....hulhu-2012.jpg

Maxy 08-26-2012 01:30 PM

David Cameron

HappyCat123 08-26-2012 02:06 PM

#higbeyforsupremeoverlord

MSM 08-26-2012 02:08 PM

Obama.

And I do not say this because I would like to agree on what my friends say, this is my personal choice if I was old enough to vote.

This might seem strange, but my friend and his family do not like Romney that much. From what they say, summed up, Romney will make life easier for the rich, and harder for the poor. If Romney becomes president, he says him and his family will move to Canada.

NCJohn 08-26-2012 02:14 PM

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Posted by MSM (Post 186943)
Obama.

And I do not say this because I would like to agree on what my friends say, this is my personal choice if I was old enough to vote.

This might seem strange, but my friend and his family do not like Romney that much. From what they say, summed up, Romney will make life easier for the rich, and harder for the poor. If Romney becomes president, he says him and his family will move to Canada.

That's what Obama's attack adds try to paint Romney as. Those ads are exaggerating the truth.

MSM 08-26-2012 02:25 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 186950)
That's what Obama's attack adds try to paint Romney as. Those ads are exaggerating the truth.

Eh. Well, the thing is, when Obama was elected, they say he made a lot of mistakes. Some of those mistakes were made by George Bush, and when Obama was elected, he inherited those mistakes and everyone blamed Obama. I feel that if we elect Obama this time, he will have learned from his mistakes.

V. 08-26-2012 03:06 PM

Excuse me for looking stupid, I'm not great with American politics, but who's Romney? Is he like the opposition for an election or something?

MSM 08-26-2012 03:13 PM

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Posted by V. (Post 186974)
Excuse me for looking stupid, I'm not great with American politics, but who's Romney? Is he like the opposition for an election or something?

Hes running against Obama

NCJohn 08-26-2012 03:24 PM

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Posted by MSM (Post 186956)
Eh. Well, the thing is, when Obama was elected, they say he made a lot of mistakes. Some of those mistakes were made by George Bush, and when Obama was elected, he inherited those mistakes and everyone blamed Obama. I feel that if we elect Obama this time, he will have learned from his mistakes.

Sure, he inheritted a bad situation but he just added on top of those mistakes.

The Doctor 08-26-2012 03:26 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 186950)
That's what Obama's attack adds try to paint Romney as. Those ads are exaggerating the truth.

Both ads exaggerate the truth. Obama said that Romney wouldn't be good president because he paid less taxes. Romney said Obama wouldn't be a good president for creating less jobs and making the tax payers help pay for health care and I quote "which isn't free".

All presidents make mistakes so I would just pick the right person and let this election be over with.

reyalS 08-26-2012 03:31 PM

TS Isaac 2012

iHawk 08-26-2012 03:37 PM

Obama. He's not good, but he's not a moron, unlike ******.

MSM 08-26-2012 03:38 PM

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Posted by iHawk (Post 186995)
Obama. He's not good, but he's not a moron, unlike ******.

Well, they both have advantages and disadvantages.

Obama has already been president, knows his mistakes, and he can learn from them. On the otherhand, Romney is rich and has a lot of money to campaign with.

Blueh 08-26-2012 03:42 PM

Obama.

I wish they'd both put up more ads about what they will do rather than criticize one another.

MementoJoker 08-26-2012 05:51 PM

Neither, Obama made empty promises...
And I don't really support Romney either.
It's all about the biggest liar.
I thought about Ron Paul, but I'm not sure about him either.

Pimpsy G. 08-26-2012 06:10 PM

I'm not for either of them. Both Romney and Obama have their pro's and cons. I for one am hugely against healthcare. They are classifying it as a tax, but the very fact that I am forced to pay for healthcare straight out of college is ridiculous. Why in the world would I need to pay thousands of dollars per year for something that I'm statistically incredibly unlikely to use at that age? I should have the right to turn it down from my employments health care plan as it is not an economically sound option for me. That is the main reason I am against Obama, not to mention the whole drone strike thing he's gotten himself into. But hey, Romney just seems... mentally unstable to me. I don't know, just the way he handles himself just seems odd. That's besides the point, though. Even though the president has basically no grounds in controlling gay marriage since it is determined by the states, I don't like that hes against it. But I do like that he is against health care, that's something that I really, really do not want to be forced to pay for.


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Posted by MSM (Post 186943)
This might seem strange, but my friend and his family do not like Romney that much. From what they say, summed up, Romney will make life easier for the rich, and harder for the poor. If Romney becomes president, he says him and his family will move to Canada.

That is literally the worst way to form a political opinion. The government should not be the one making life easier, the people should. The main problem with Obama is that his plan is to expand the government, when it should be shrinking since its overstepping its bounds way too much with all these government programs. Health care is designed to give assistance to people that cannot afford it, thats why so many poor people are for it. But the fact is that its more government regulation, more taxes, more food stamps, and more aid. We should not and will not as a country be lowered down to rely on the government to fix our problems, if you can't afford something, go back to school and get a better job. Don't sit around and rely on food stamps to supply things for you. My uncle does that and its sickening. He doesn't want to get a job because the government feeds him.

Skill 08-26-2012 06:42 PM

romney, its a shame I'm still too young too vote. It's probably a good thing the minimum age requirement is 18 though, people my age wouldn't be mature enough to vote and make decisions. Wish they made you take some kind of test to vote so people actually can understand what they are voting for instead of being swayed by society.

Guess it doesn't matter though, I'm from Illinois so its almost certain Obama will win in my state anyways.

iCool 08-26-2012 06:48 PM

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73192858/ob...1341859229.jpg

Bulldogg Lucero 08-26-2012 08:06 PM

Obama all the way, he's the only one to kill osama

MementoJoker 08-26-2012 08:08 PM

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Posted by Bulldogg Lucero (Post 187091)
Obama all the way, he's the only one to kill osama

Osama Bin Laden was funded by the US and by Britain.

Papyrus 08-26-2012 08:29 PM

To pick the lesser of two evils, I'd rather choose Obama. Although he did not fulfill many of his promises from his "change" campaign, Romney will just completely screw over the middle class. The other issues are not as pertinent as the economy, and Romney's solution is to give the big man a big break, similar to most republicans in the nation's history. But I don't believe that Obama will have any benefit to our nation over the next four years.

John 08-26-2012 09:18 PM

Obama, but his healthcare is gonna end up costing us alot of money as my teacher said around 53 to 54 bill in the futrure.

Talon 08-26-2012 09:48 PM

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Posted by MSM (Post 186956)
Eh. Well, the thing is, when Obama was elected, they say he made a lot of mistakes. Some of those mistakes were made by George Bush, and when Obama was elected, he inherited those mistakes and everyone blamed Obama. I feel that if we elect Obama this time, he will have learned from his mistakes.

No one blamed Lincoln.

js.

MrSimons 08-26-2012 09:48 PM

These are our choices? Politics are awful.

Talon 08-26-2012 09:51 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 187057)
romney, its a shame I'm still too young too vote. It's probably a good thing the minimum age requirement is 18 though, people my age wouldn't be mature enough to vote and make decisions. Wish they made you take some kind of test to vote so people actually can understand what they are voting for instead of being swayed by society.

Guess it doesn't matter though, I'm from Illinois so its almost certain Obama will win in my state anyways.

A lot of people in America are still easily swayed by propaganda and indoctrination, regardless of age. A close friend told me he's voting for Obama purely because of the propaganda advertisements about Romney that his administration put out.

MrSimons 08-26-2012 10:21 PM

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Posted by Bulldogg Lucero (Post 187091)
Obama all the way, he's the only one to kill osama

Obama didn't kill Bin Laden.

Ignatius 08-26-2012 10:25 PM

they both suck:/

iCool 08-27-2012 12:20 AM

Ron Paul 2012

MementoJoker 08-27-2012 12:25 AM

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Posted by iCool (Post 187396)
Ron Paul 2012

. Wow,you've changed your opinion quickly...

Ignatius 08-27-2012 12:29 AM

OMG YES! ANOTHER RON PAUL SUPPORTER! RON/RAND PAUL 2012/2017!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Higbey 08-27-2012 12:56 AM

All of them suck. They are all politicians in a broken system and unable to do anything, they all attack their opponents, they lie, they care about themselves more than the country.

If you took all the money used in the campaigns and used it for AI research and set up a project, we could build a better president.

You could make a supercomputer, something that can act like a human, store tons of info, learn litterally everything on the Internet, It could make better decisicions, do probability, research, all sorts of stuff to decide on vetoing or passing, understand politics, and the best thing is, it's a president that can't die unless they blow it up, can't make decisions for personal gain, never gets outdated, knows more and can do more than a human, never sleeps, never eats,

The constitution was written in a time when this was just something that would appear magic,
The future is amazing and advancing quickly, I'd trust this country more in the hands of a computer than a politician.

MattKan 08-27-2012 01:05 AM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 186950)
That's what Obama's attack adds try to paint Romney as. Those ads are exaggerating the truth.

No, it's Obama who wants to make things easier for the people who DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING AND WANT TO LIVE OFF OF THE TAX DOLLARS OF OTHER HARD WORKING PEOPLE. A lot of people are voting for him because that's them, and they don't want to work.

Ignatius 08-27-2012 01:05 AM

Or Higbey could be president. HIGBEY 2012!!!

HappyCat123 08-27-2012 01:21 AM

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Posted by Ignatius (Post 187437)
Or Higbey could be president. HIGBEY 2012!!!

#higbeyforsupremeoverlord

Higbey 08-27-2012 01:27 AM

I could not compete against a computer, thing is a computer wouldn't be any party, its deciscions and ideals would've the current state of the USA and the citizens, in fact, it could be set up so anyone with Internet or near a station could vote on anything. Like a poll for everything, it could show the opinions of each area, the age and gender of the voters, statistics, In fact, a supercomputer could be the most informed canidate.

iCool 08-27-2012 01:42 AM

between the two i choose obama but i like ron paul the most

NCJohn 08-27-2012 01:44 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 187435)
No, it's Obama who wants to make things easier for the people who DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING AND WANT TO LIVE OFF OF THE TAX DOLLARS OF OTHER HARD WORKING PEOPLE. A lot of people are voting for him because that's them, and they don't want to work.

I know, thats what I'm getting at.

MrSimons 08-27-2012 05:19 AM

Legalize drugs>economic problems fixed

Sungwonc01 08-27-2012 06:12 AM

Politics is confusing. Thankfully I have "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart. Now I am confused but laughing. ;D

NCJohn 08-28-2012 01:18 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 187593)
Politics is confusing. Thankfully I have "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart. Now I am confused but laughing. ;D

The daily show is extremely liberally slanted (just like most of the media now-a-days). It's not a good source to get unbiased politics.

Pimpsy G. 08-28-2012 01:27 AM

The only good source for political information is gathered from at least 3 different mediums (television, newspaper, radio, magazines, internet, etc.)

Bulldogg Lucero 08-28-2012 01:35 AM

I didnt mean literally plus i was eating with 1 hand so i thought if you were good enough you'd know what i said i meant Obama was the only President to have osama killed

NCJohn 08-28-2012 02:11 AM

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Posted by Bulldogg Lucero (Post 188165)
I didnt mean literally plus i was eating with 1 hand so i thought if you were good enough you'd know what i said i meant Obama was the only President to have osama killed

Because there's only been one Osama Bin Laden .__.

Also Obama didn't kill him, seal team 6 did. Any other person could have given the order if they were in office and they just happen to get the intel that Obama was lucky enough to receive.

Higbey 08-28-2012 02:28 AM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 188181)

Because there's only been one Osama Bin Laden .__.

Also Obama didn't kill him, seal team 6 did. Any other person could have given the order if they were in office and they just happen to get the intel that Obama was lucky enough to receive.

But Obama had the hard task of sitting in a chair watching the feed of the mission with a bunch of officials!

Pimpsy G. 08-28-2012 02:37 AM

Now that I think about it the bashing of Obama's use of drones in what we like to believe as "Pakistan" is just ridiculous. The northern area of pakistan that al Qaeda is located in is a free for all no mans land. Pakistan cannot even control it, nor does any government try to. So after al qaeda infamously declared they were behind 9/11, we requested to enter the area. Pakistan wanted us to invade them since they cannot control that area themselves, but they acted like us entering meant WE were the bad guys, because the public's mentality in the middle east is that all non believers are infedels and they did not want to upset their people.

Its as simple as that. So the public does not want us in their area (even though northern Pakistan by all means is not a country). So instead we use drones to do this because its better to kill a person than to send them to Guantanamo Bay and leave them in a rotten hell for life in prison. Since we are invading a free mans land with drones to seek out the criminals that killed 3000 people 10 years ago, we are the bad guys in international media. What logic, huh?

Sungwonc01 08-28-2012 05:31 AM

I recently read a TIME magazine article that really opened my eyes.

It was a article about the presidential campaign. The writer quoted the republicans word for word and most of then believe that Obama sympathies with radical terrorists group.

The writer notes how ironic it is that Obama welcomes the group with drone attacks and special operations. This showed how desperate some politicians are that they cling to rumors and stereotypes about anything against their opponent.

Unless someone shows up as the next F.D.R...

:/


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