Gun Buffs/Nerfs
 

Nerf Glock18 by 1 damage. *5,6,7*

Buff SMGPK to the same stats as glock18 but damage *6,7,8*

Buff M4 speed *the gun is 55k*

Buff Sten speed slightly higher then M4 because *the gun is 65k*

Morano Thompson needs a serieous speed buff *should have a little higher freeze then the souizen* *the gun is 82.5k*

Nerf Dester Eagles to same stats as MK23

No, no, no, no, no, sorry.

and why no

I agree with it all but Sten is already better than M4,trust me..

They nerfed M4 so Sten is faster

Also I hope snk does this,those are perfect suggestions..I would use smgpk because it would be fair for its price..Unlike fudging OP glock only 10k and taking out M4s

yea that part is true. But they can always buff it a lil.make things interesting

O O O morano shouldnt lower freeze,it has the fastest fire rate..and Plus souizen isnt actually 80k...thats auctions..if it was sold in stores it should be 320k-400k

No,M4 always dominated spar..It's nerf was for a good cause. We want a change,no one wanted to see only M4's it was boring.

the MT isnt worth the price you buy it for,lmao. Why do you think no one good uses it in spar or at all for the matter.
And the souizen shouldnt be 320k lmao.
And for the M4, if you read the buffs, you wuill see ten and MT would be stronger then it. *both are priced higher as well*

Well MT should have a little less freeze i guess..and souizen should be like 300k or something..its like the best gun..what if **** like mp5 came out..

LETS HIGHER SOMEBODY FROM THE MILITARY AS GUNS ADIAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lmao, I'm not going to get into mp5 pc gun stats to iera. the serves arent the same movement speed....just stop lol

mp7 screw mp5!

Because The Morano Thompson is not a Spar gun?

We create are our gun stats, we don't use Era PC's.

If you want m4 buff, BAR would need to be buffed.
Neither will happen.

M4 was too OP, nice, Snake! :)

Attempted to do it on the sly, but appears you guys even notice 0.01 changes in firing rates rofl

Why

Because otherwise a gun almost 1/4 its price would be equivalent.

Got it in one.

i think smgpk should be buffed....

M4 speed buff? NO WAY

yeppers. it sounds cool too :D

I never said anything about pc stats

I wouldn't mind an smgpk buff a Glock less than half its price has better stats.

yes,no,no,no,yes,yes

I suggested other gun buffs. Like m3 and single mk23. But.... well.....admins think it's fine. At least Mp40 got a decent buff.

Speed buff
wooo!

the only guns people use that arent 'spar pros' and spam theyre PBP and BAR.

Buff the M3. I like that gun but it sucks.

The m3 and smgpk need a buff asap!!!

Mk23 isn't getting any love =(

who cares about mk,theyre already decent.

A tad too much freeze imo

Money Justifies everything!

I don't know exactly who's in charge of this crap, but it seems like Graal Era switches how weapons behave more than i change my underpants. Ever heard of a 'streamlined' approach??

Jesus... Thanks for creating this thread Ken so i can flame all over it.

I definatly think that glock needs a nerf

Everyone is using the dual mk23 and not the single -.- look how much freeze is on single

Ap7 vs Mk23

Ap7
+More damage
+more fire rate
+less freeze
-Longer reload

Mk23
-less damage
-more freeze
-slower fire rate
+quick reload


Deagle vs Mk23 (poor balancing)

Deagle
+very low freeze (especially on single)
/practically same fire rate(on single)
+very fast reload
+more damage
+fast fire rate (on dual)

Mk23
-less damage
-slow fire rate (on dual especially)
-very long freeze rate on single
/same reload as deagle


Ap7 vs Deagle (I find this more balanced)

Ap7
+very fast dual fire rate
-slightly more freeze
-longer reload
/same damage

Deagle
-slower fire rate (single is quite slow)
+less freeze
+quick reload
/same damage


Ap7 can be used as a high damage per second gun with it's high rate of fire and good damage. Deagle trades of some damage per second to a more combat efficient type (in sparring situations). Mk23 is a simply downgraded version of both those guns.

All of them are the same price

god i remember when the Ap7 was one of the best guns. But yeah you got a point but era guns never have and never will be balanced

Old Mk23s were just fine same stats as deagles basically just one damage less. "Oh god something that looks cool is killing people *Nerfs under all other handguns*"

Use dual,usually all singles suck,even deagle.

Deagle single is awesome! It's highly underrated. 0.11 freeze rate and 8 damage is amazing. It's a good spar weapon. But not for pking or basing (in some situations)

Yeah but I dont like the fire rate. :(

EW don't let racist boy make the gun stats. He will make all the black guns slower

LMAO REP+

Deagle and mk23.... I see......

Lmao rep+

A gun got buffed. Not saying which gun though =)

I can't tell which honestly, and if there was a buff it's not noticeable.

M3 got buffed a few hours ago:P

Now to wait for PBP users to rage.