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slick 08-09-2012 11:08 AM

graal sucks now
 
i use to like it when guns were extremly cheap and all

ex. last year m4=5k

this year = 50k -_-

and plus the attachment 40k? (i dont remember)

i remember when this use to be a socializing game and now its all about the money :/

no good updates it would be amazing if they had a bigger map just like classic (which kinda is better then era now )

just the weapons are over priced and shells are still the same price -_- if you doubled the price on guns why not double the price of shells?

NCJohn 08-09-2012 11:14 AM

Be patient; we have some pretty cool things that are being worked on that you may like.

lord mafia Era 08-09-2012 11:25 AM

WAAA?

http://grouchoreviews.com/content/films/3292/1.jpg

slick 08-09-2012 11:28 AM

if you make cars being able to run over people that would be nice :D and also if you lower down the prices on stuff max 45k? that would be great also

DragonRider 08-09-2012 11:57 AM

Welcome to the club. Nobody cares.

V. 08-09-2012 11:58 AM

Cry some moar. Welcome to Era.

cache 08-09-2012 01:11 PM

I agree.. It's not like graal is worth our time or anything? It's just that we share an addiction, right? =)

Shock 08-09-2012 01:34 PM

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Posted by cache (Post 177020)
I agree.. It's not like graal is worth our time or anything? It's just that we share an addiction, right? =)

*picks up iPad* Wtf. Who's been playing my game!!!???

cache 08-09-2012 01:43 PM

N..not me, fore sure. >.>

Shock 08-09-2012 02:52 PM

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Posted by Shock (Post 177024)
*picks up iPad* Wtf. Who's been playing my game!!!???

This guys addicted.

Johnaudi 08-09-2012 03:06 PM

I agree with the whole Idea, but disagree on some points.
You said to make a maximum of 45k price, if so, rich people would have bought all the guns and I can already imagine the flame wars in here about making gun's price cheaper.

FaZ3 08-09-2012 06:08 PM

At least we aren't as bad as classic. It cost like 8k just to have a item that lets you cry..
On iClassic is like impossible to make money, you pretty much have to buy gralat packs.

Emera 08-09-2012 06:44 PM

It certainly sucks...all of my free time!

iHot 08-09-2012 06:50 PM

I got my m4 when crabs dropped it now cry some moar cause I don't care. We have a few money making guides on these forums use them.

NightD.Gray-Man 08-09-2012 07:36 PM

Actually the m4 was 4500 last year.

Bobby Ray B.o.B 08-09-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Posted by slick (Post 176981)
i use to like it when guns were extremly cheap and all

ex. last year m4=5k

this year = 50k -_-

and plus the attachment 40k? (i dont remember)

i remember when this use to be a socializing game and now its all about the money :/

no good updates it would be amazing if they had a bigger map just like classic (which kinda is better then era now )

just the weapons are over priced and shells are still the same price -_- if you doubled the price on guns why not double the price of shells?

agreed.

Quote:

Posted by NCJohn (Post 176982)
Be patient; we have some pretty cool things that are being worked on that you may like.

yeah and how many gralats would they be? 80k plus?

Jester Lapse 08-09-2012 10:28 PM

actually the M4 was free lmao

Bobby Ray B.o.B 08-09-2012 10:35 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 177181)
actually the M4 was free lmao

When an admin quit and made all the crabs drop m4s when killed.

Ignatius 08-09-2012 10:37 PM

If you don't like it don't play the game. Simple as that.

Ace 08-09-2012 11:05 PM

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Posted by Ignatius (Post 177187)
If you don't like it don't play the game. Simple as that.

I don't like it. But I like the game so I won't quit

Bobby Ray B.o.B 08-09-2012 11:35 PM

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Posted by Ignatius (Post 177187)
If you don't like it don't play the game. Simple as that.

way ahead of you...

Talon 08-09-2012 11:54 PM

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Posted by slick (Post 176981)
just the weapons are over priced and shells are still the same price -_- if you doubled the price on guns why not double the price of shells?

Because... That would... Defeat the purpose of changing the gun price...?

Also, that is such a stupid reason to say a game is downright horrible.

Bobby Ray B.o.B 08-10-2012 01:27 AM

stefan just wants more money.

flamecrow 08-10-2012 02:06 AM

stealing accounts = bad slick

MrSimons 08-10-2012 02:20 AM

Okay, thanks for telling us. Now either give ideas how to make it better or gtfo. No one wants to here you cry about this game. Oh and I'm pretty sure iEra is bigger than iClassic.

Jester Lapse 08-10-2012 02:45 AM

playercount as of now
classic iphone: 1671
era iphone: 1461

Billy 08-10-2012 04:47 AM

All guns would have to be around the same stats,if every gun was under 45k people would have them all. Who cares if guns are really high? You're not supposed to have every gun in the game.. Besides It's a lot more fun to earn things in game,as that's what your goal is..

Skill 08-10-2012 04:50 AM

I stopped playing Era ever since it went pay2win... It had a lot of potential but then they started releasing a ton of overpowered guns like the BAR that cost like 200k.

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Posted by Billy (Post 177360)
All guns would have to be around the same stats,if every gun was under 45k people would have them all. Who cares if guns are really high? You're not supposed to have every gun in the game.. Besides It's a lot more fun to earn things in game,as that's what your goal is..

All weapons should be balanced and relatively cheap. it would be nice to work towards extending your arsenal of guns. they don't need to be the same, but they should be unique while remaining balanced.

Billy 08-10-2012 04:58 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177361)
I stopped playing Era ever since it went pay2win... It had a lot of potential but then they started releasing a ton of overpowered guns like the BAR that cost like 200k.

LOL doesnt make sense you say it's overpowered but it costs too much? Lol,why do you think its 200k? Because its strong as hell..It took me a month to dig it though.

And Honestly I wish stefan/unixmad had nothing to do with the iservers,the game has so many flaws that it wouldn't have if it didn't have a greedy money consumed douchebag of a owner....He only uses us for money,he doesn't care for our enjoyment of the game.

We probably would have a trade system by now,at least for our droppables.

Skill 08-10-2012 05:44 AM

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Posted by Billy (Post 177363)
LOL doesnt make sense you say it's overpowered but it costs too much? Lol,why do you think its 200k? Because its strong as hell..It took me a month to dig it though.

That's exactly my point, the game is pay2win because you get overpowered weapons with large amounts of money.

Back in the day it was just uzis, ak47, and shotgun.

Shotguns weren't nearly as common as uzis and ak47's in spar. I was one of the few people that were really good with them, the key was to try to hug the side and create walls of bullets from the multi shot high spread while dodging the enemy's.

uzis were for high mobility creating walls of bullets with no freeze. They were very common.

ak47 was for more tactical high damage. Rather than spamming you would shoot sparingly and make the shots count.


Now its just a mess with whoever has the better gun has an insane advantage. A lot of gangs don't even let people in without good weapons >_>

not gonna blow $80 on a BAR or spend 100 hours doing repetitive tasks just to play a simple iPod game and have a chance against others. Would rather just buy a quality game.

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 177321)
playercount as of now
classic iphone: 1671
era iphone: 1461

iEra without a doubt has more and higher quality content produced than iClassic.

However iClassic has a better concept and overall design(along with coming out a year earlier), so it does slightly better.

If iClassic had a development team as powerful as Era iPhone it would probably have over 3000 online right now. They have a ton of graphics members but in terms of other development staff they are quite limited.

iHot 08-10-2012 05:50 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177374)
If iClassic had a development team as powerful as Era iPhone it would probably have over 3000 online right now. They have a ton of graphics members but in terms of other staff they are quite limited.

Lol so they can keep restocking shops with crappy hats.

Sungwonc01 08-10-2012 06:15 AM

The way I see it, unless you completely mastered the Glock 18, you don't deserve a M4.

Skill 08-10-2012 06:41 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 177385)
The way I see it, unless you completely mastered the Glock 18, you don't deserve a M4.

m4 was the first gun that was released after the game was already out. It also came way before the glock.

FaZ3 08-10-2012 06:55 AM

How To Resolve This:

1: Increase The Payment Rate In Jobs

2:Balance The Gun System

If they made the server balanced like PC Era there would be alot more people playing. PC Era is actually fun, The jobs have a good payment rate, all weapons are balanced, you can buy anything " Unlike era where you can win them in auctions", lastly they have a trading system. If only PC Era was available on IOS >:[

Talon 08-10-2012 07:31 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177361)
I stopped playing Era ever since it went pay2win... It had a lot of potential but then they started releasing a ton of overpowered guns like the BAR that cost like 200k.

Okay guys, lets set this straight. The BAR isn't overpowered. It's just good. Why is it so good? It's because it's 200k that makes it good, not overpowered. Overpowered generally refers to something that's too powerful for its relative asking price. If the BAR was, say, 100k - that's when its overpowered. But it's not. It's 200k; of course its going to be good. What are they gonna do? Release a ****ty 200k gun thats as good as the M4?

Jester Lapse 08-10-2012 07:32 AM

I am starting to play classic again. That tells you my view on era lmao

Talon 08-10-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Posted by *FaZ3 (Post 177408)
How To Resolve This:

1: Increase The Payment Rate In Jobs

2:Balance The Gun System

If they made the server balanced like PC Era there would be alot more people playing. PC Era is actually fun, The jobs have a good payment rate, all weapons are balanced, you can buy anything " Unlike era where you can win them in auctions", lastly they have a trading system. If only PC Era was available on IOS >:[

PC Era's economy is horrible because of the limited number of guns and the trade system - not to mention item hoarding and extremely high prices. I'd say iEra is an overall better game.

Billy 08-10-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Posted by Skill (Post 177374)
That's exactly my point, the game is pay2win because you get overpowered weapons with large amounts of money.

Back in the day it was just uzis, ak47, and shotgun.

Shotguns weren't nearly as common as uzis and ak47's in spar. I was one of the few people that were really good with them, the key was to try to hug the side and create walls of bullets from the multi shot high spread while dodging the enemy's.

uzis were for high mobility creating walls of bullets with no freeze. They were very common.

ak47 was for more tactical high damage. Rather than spamming you would shoot sparingly and make the shots count.


Now its just a mess with whoever has the better gun has an insane advantage. A lot of gangs don't even let people in without good weapons >_>

not gonna blow $80 on a BAR or spend 100 hours doing repetitive tasks just to play a simple iPod game and have a chance against others. Would rather just buy a quality game.



iEra without a doubt has more and higher quality content produced than iClassic.

However iClassic has a better concept and overall design(along with coming out a year earlier), so it does slightly better.

If iClassic had a development team as powerful as Era iPhone it would probably have over 3000 online right now. They have a ton of graphics members but in terms of other development staff they are quite limited.

Im sorry but thats how games are,if everything was easy to get..People could no life and have everything..if you dont want to waste all day digging just dig a little everytime you play. And also this game would suck if it had the same weapons. Im glad there's expensive weapons,it's not like I'm going for them all..

MementoJoker 08-10-2012 07:43 AM

How would implementing a trading system worsen the economy when the items are already droppable?

Skill 08-10-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Posted by *FaZ3 (Post 177408)
How To Resolve This:

1: Increase The Payment Rate In Jobs

2:Balance The Gun System

If they made the server balanced like PC Era there would be alot more people playing. PC Era is actually fun, The jobs have a good payment rate, all weapons are balanced, you can buy anything " Unlike era where you can win them in auctions", lastly they have a trading system. If only PC Era was available on IOS >:[

oh god PC Era is just as bad, hope this is a joke.

Billy 08-10-2012 07:45 AM

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Posted by Talon (Post 177425)
PC Era's economy is horrible because of the limited number of guns and the trade system - not to mention item hoarding and extremely high prices. I'd say iEra is an overall better game.

PC is better,the PK and spar is more challenging and interested. A reason I play iEra is because I've been with it since day 1 and I'm interested in seeing it evolve. They don't release much guns as they used to. Although iEra seems to have more content. I still like PC better but I'll never leave iEra for PC..One reason I hate iEra is because of the AFK'ers and people trying to have pixel 'Swag'. I'd rather be in a crowd of of elite assholes. xD

Jester Lapse 08-10-2012 07:47 AM

They can't release more when they can't even manage the ones they got

Billy 08-10-2012 07:49 AM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 177437)
They can't release more when they can't even manage the ones they got

I think the weapons are pretty fair how they are,I think they should release the ones made.

Jester Lapse 08-10-2012 07:50 AM

They need to boost player hp to 75-100 and increase speed then add guns. Otherwise people will keep crying. #wisdom

MementoJoker 08-10-2012 07:52 AM

May someone answer my question, please?

Jester Lapse 08-10-2012 07:53 AM

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Posted by Derpawy
How would implementing a trading system worsen the economy when the items are already droppable?

It wouldn't. It's not staffs fault. Staff want it. Stephan forbids it. Blame/rage at him

Talon 08-10-2012 08:11 AM

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Posted by Derpawy (Post 177434)
How would implementing a trading system worsen the economy when the items are already droppable?

If you're referring to PC, it isn't the trading that ruins the game's economy. It's the fact that they can be traded at all (drops/system). In short, trading guns kills the economy because players won't buy from stores anymore, because they can capitalize between each other for cheaper prices. If a guy wants a BAR, eventually with time, he's not going to go to the store to purchase a BAR. Instead, he'll look for a player that doesn't want the BAR who will sell it for a lower price. This causes guns to lose value quickly. The cycle will repeat, and sooner or later, inflation occurs since peoples' guns aren't sitting idle in their inventory, but now rather a happier owner who will put use to it.

Also, becauae you can trade unwanted guns for other guns, you won't have to shell/buy packs to get that new gun. When this happens, players won't buy any more packs which leads to a loss in revenue for developers. That is a fatal mistake for any game, seeing as Era PC has had multiple server resets in the past.

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If you were talking about iEra, the same reasons as above. Though, I don't see a problem in a trade system for items that are already droppable. Just no items that aren't droppable (i.e. guns).

FaZ3 08-10-2012 08:28 AM

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Posted by Derpawy (Post 177434)
How would implementing a trading system worsen the economy when the items are already droppable?

Try asking stefan that. It's his server.

iHot 08-10-2012 08:34 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 177444)
It wouldn't. It's not staffs fault. Staff want it. Stephan forbids it. Blame/rage at him

He doesn't want us happy.

Skill 08-10-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Posted by Derpawy (Post 177434)
How would implementing a trading system worsen the economy when the items are already droppable?

it wont, but stefan wont let them make it.


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