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Zinc 08-03-2012 09:01 AM
Era new way of hiring PRS
 
Why not just interview players on skype instead of recommandations but to set up for the interview you must be in age range of 14 up. Reason why is, i know right now hiring staff there is no age limit but there should be because example a 11 year old can show a bad example for the staff team and other reason why due to maturity. I understand you staff get spammed to much (trust me i know) but officialy taking down applications to me was a bad idea because this is showing players nothing. Does anyone know what i am trying to say ???.

V. 08-03-2012 09:03 AM
I do. How can PRAs recognise you, if no-one speaks to you?

Zinc 08-03-2012 09:22 AM
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Posted by V. (Post 173158)
I do. How can PRAs recognise you, if no-one speaks to you?
I personally think applications should be back. Staff need to suck it up and read there emails (no one said staff was a fun house) your there to work. you have applications to find out information about you, and your maturity level, and how well you work is

Does anyone else agree ?

Talon 08-03-2012 09:26 AM
I'd assume the Era staff that are already here on the forums could recognize us members and recommend us from there. I also agree, I think applications was a much more fair and efficient way of hiring the PRs. Without applications, recommendations tend to be biased based on players the recommenders already know personally. Applications introduce new people to the scene, allow the employers to have a sample of the community as a whole as opposed to the connections he/she personally made; and there's always hidden talent out there.

PoeticFolly 08-03-2012 09:28 AM
They aren't going to be able to skype with every single person that comes their way. You get recognized by how you act in the game. If they approve of it and are appealed by how you act you may get reccomendations, when you do street will contact you via pm or via email. They wouldn't have enough time to skype with that many people. Also, you said that they need to suck it up and just go through all of the emails, eh? They get around 1,000 emails for this whole entire thing. This is a quick, easier way to hire people.


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Posted by Talon (Post 173167)
I'd assume the Era staff that are already here on the forums could recognize us members and recommend us from there. I also agree, I think applications was a much more fair and efficient way of hiring the PRs. Without applications, recommendations tend to be biased based on players the recommenders already know personally. Applications introduce new people to the scene, allow the employers to have a sample of the community as a whole as opposed to the connections he/she personally made; and there's always hidden talent out there.
I was actually partly hired because of the way that I act here. Also, I'm not a super famous person, people know me as "That kid who AFK's by a tree" So it's not just all biased. Same with EvilXhunter, he wasn't well known at all, no one new him.

Zinc 08-03-2012 09:31 AM
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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 173168)
They aren't going to be able to skype with every single person that comes their way. You get recognized by how you act in the game. If they approve of it and are appealed by how you act you may get reccomendations, when you do street will contact you via pm or via email. They wouldn't have enough time to skype with that many people. Also, you said that they need to suck it up and just go through all of the emails, eh? They get around 1,000 emails for this whole entire thing. This is a quick, easier way to hire people.


UOTE=Talon;173167]I'd assume the Era staff that are already here on the forums could recognize us members and recommend us from there. I also agree, I think applications was a much more fair and efficient way of hiring the PRs. Without applications, recommendations tend to be biased based on players the recommenders already know personally. Applications introduce new people to the scene, allow the employers to have a sample of the community as a whole as opposed to the connections he/she personally made; and there's always hidden talent out there.
I was actually partly hired because of the way that I act here. Also, I'm not a super famous person, people know me as "That kid who AFK's by a tree" So it's not just all biased. Same with EvilXhunter, he wasn't well known at all, no one new him.[/QUOTE]

I understand but this is a job not a fun house. Doing a job means work

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Posted by Talon (Post 173167)
I'd assume the Era staff that are already here on the forums could recognize us members and recommend us from there. I also agree, I think applications was a much more fair and efficient way of hiring the PRs. Without applications, recommendations tend to be biased based on players the recommenders already know personally. Applications introduce new people to the scene, allow the employers to have a sample of the community as a whole as opposed to the connections he/she personally made; and there's always hidden talent out there.
100% agree with you. And thats what i was about to say :P

Healy 08-03-2012 09:32 AM
Everyone has a different idealization of fame. Just throwing it out there...

PoeticFolly 08-03-2012 09:33 AM
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Posted by Zinc (Post 173171)
I understand but this is a job not a fun house. Doing a job means work
I never said that this job is a "fun house" trust me man, it's far beyond that. I've been on it for about 2 hours, I already get massed spammed. It's worth it though, I enjoy helping the people out. =D

Zinc 08-03-2012 09:33 AM
Look i dont want to piss off any PRs about this thread this is my way of seeing it and i do disagree the new hire thing

flamecrow 08-03-2012 09:35 AM
My question is, why does everyone want to be staff? It actually boggles my mind.

Zinc 08-03-2012 09:36 AM
Another thing, people could not have any fame and there work could be the most amazing thing ever... now he can't share because you staff members dont do applications (My point exactly)

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Posted by flamecrow (Post 173175)
My question is, why does everyone want to be staff? It actually boggles my mind.
No clue. I wanna apply as levels because i love to work and give some players something fresh and amazing for them to play around in. PRS i have no clue why its so popular or why everyone wants it.

V. 08-03-2012 09:41 AM
I get a buzz when I know something a player doesn't, then I help them. Sounds cheesy, but it's true.

Healy 08-03-2012 09:43 AM
I guess helping something is something I'd do since none of my friends are there to occupy my time on Graal.

Zinc 08-03-2012 09:47 AM
Look my question is. Is all the applications going? includeing LAT team. because that would suck because i have work that wont be seen due to no applications

Healy 08-03-2012 09:48 AM
Isn't this about PR?

Zinc 08-03-2012 09:50 AM
True nvm i had a brain fart thing everything was going...are they?

Healy 08-03-2012 09:51 AM
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Posted by Zinc
True nvm i had a brain fart thing everything was going...are they?
I wouldn't know... I don't play Era. I was throwing in my opinion on the general topic though.

Zinc 08-03-2012 09:52 AM
Ok can some PR answer this please

Rockstar 08-03-2012 10:02 AM
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Posted by Zinc (Post 173157)
Why not just interview players on skype instead of recommandations but to set up for the interview you must be in age range of 14 up. Reason why is, i know right now hiring staff there is no age limit but there should be because example a 11 year old can show a bad example for the staff team and other reason why due to maturity. I understand you staff get spammed to much (trust me i know) but officialy taking down applications to me was a bad idea because this is showing players nothing. Does anyone know what i am trying to say ???.
Not everyone likes to be confronted In front of a computer camera talking to Ea iPhone staff through Skype.
You never know who could be hired;
An 11 year old could be hired deepends on his or hers maturity level.
And why set up the age range from 14+ a 12-13 year old could be mature then you and could have an opportunity to be staff but couldn't because the age limit is 14+.
Not a good idea.

Zinc 08-03-2012 10:03 AM
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Posted by IROCKSTAR (Post 173205)
Not everyone likes to be confronted In front of a computer camera talking to Ea iPhone staff through Skype.
You never know who could be hired;
An 11 year old could be hired deepends on his or hers maturity level.
And why set up the age range from 14+ a 12-13 year old could be mature then you and could have an opportunity to be staff but couldn't because the age limit is 14+.
Not a good idea.
Ok i can work with that but are all the applications going away or is it just PRS ?

Rockstar 08-03-2012 10:07 AM
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Posted by Zinc (Post 173211)
Ok i can work with that but are all the applications going away or is it just PRS ?
No, if your referred staff will interview you and ask you questions, if your good enough then you've made it to the team.

Zinc 08-03-2012 10:08 AM
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Posted by IROCKSTAR (Post 173213)
No, if your referred staff will interview you and ask you questions, if your good enough then you've made it to the team.
Ok sounds good

flamecrow 08-03-2012 10:09 AM
the current staff hiring is for PR only...

Talon 08-03-2012 10:10 AM
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Posted by flamecrow (Post 173175)
My question is, why does everyone want to be staff? It actually boggles my mind.
The reason the general public wants to be a PR is because they think it's all fun and games giving yourself lightsabers and MetalStorms to run around with and impress your friends. There are a couple normal people out there, though. One thing I learned through life is that humans are wired to want to help people, and feel good when they help someone and receive a thank you. Those are the ones that make the best Player Relations staff; the ones that genuinely want to help players in need and contribute to the community in a selfless way. I respect those people, and those are the ones that deserve it above all else. I strive to be like them. Maybe I will, some day.

Zinc 08-03-2012 10:13 AM
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Posted by IROCKSTAR (Post 173213)
No, if your referred staff will interview you and ask you questions, if your good enough then you've made it to the team.
tbh i think this is a somewhat good idea ;).

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Posted by flamecrow (Post 173217)
the current staff hiring is for PR only...
Dam ok guess i can try to get refered so i can apply as PR. Wait untill there hireing LAT

Thank you guys for answering my questions and showing me different points of views

Billy 08-03-2012 10:21 AM
One does not express their true maturity,I know this trust me. To the public as a player I'm myself,wouldn't ruin the team by staying the same way. So I kinda agree with applications,the amount of effort and worthiness you put into it shows you have what it takes to complete simple tasks.

Bulldogg Lucero 08-03-2012 10:25 AM
But you could lie and be applying for all the wrong reasons

But i'm about 50/50 on the situation

Zinc 08-03-2012 10:29 AM
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Posted by Bulldogg Lucero (Post 173228)
But you could lie and be applying for all the wrong reasons

But i'm about 50/50 on the situation
At the moment i am also 50/50 now

Bulldogg Lucero 08-03-2012 10:34 AM
Great :)

BabyGhost 08-03-2012 10:37 AM
Well. I'm mature. I enjoy helping others. But do I help others extremely frequently?

NCJohn 08-03-2012 11:23 AM
The reason we aren't using applications anymore isn't because it's not fun, I assure you it it's a blast (/sarcasm), but because any one can lie on the applications and turn out to be a horrible staff member (as seen with a select few from the last batch of app hirings).

Emera 08-03-2012 11:30 AM
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Posted by NCJohn (Post 173263)
The reason we aren't using applications anymore isn't because it's not fun, I assure you it it's a blast (/sarcasm), but because any one can lie on the applications and turn out to be a horrible staff member (as seen with a select few from the last batch of app hirings).
I can't imagine how horrible it must be to check through 1000+ applications X_X

Era News 08-03-2012 11:42 AM
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Posted by Talon
I'd assume the Era staff that are already here on the forums could recognize us members and recommend us from there. I also agree, I think applications was a much more fair and efficient way of hiring the PRs. Without applications, recommendations tend to be biased based on players the recommenders already know personally. Applications introduce new people to the scene, allow the employers to have a sample of the community as a whole as opposed to the connections he/she personally made; and there's always hidden talent out there.
But people lie...

Look guys, the administrative team isn't for everyone.

BabyGhost 08-03-2012 11:46 AM
There's no real perfect method. Just go with whatever the admins choose how to hire.

Era News 08-03-2012 11:50 AM
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Posted by Talon

The reason the general public wants to be a PR is because they think it's all fun and games giving yourself lightsabers and MetalStorms to run around with and impress your friends. There are a couple normal people out there, though. One thing I learned through life is that humans are wired to want to help people, and feel good when they help someone and receive a thank you. Those are the ones that make the best Player Relations staff; the ones that genuinely want to help players in need and contribute to the community in a selfless way. I respect those people, and those are the ones that deserve it above all else. I strive to be like them. Maybe I will, some day.
Lol this is absolutely not true, humans are wired for hormonal activity. I think no human would do a job without thinking for a millisecond if they will get a reward for their action. And that is a human.

And I, for one, can admit that I only wanted to be admin last year because of the 300 gealats you get each month :)

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Posted by NCJohn
The reason we aren't using applications anymore isn't because it's not fun, I assure you it it's a blast (/sarcasm), but because any one can lie on the applications and turn out to be a horrible staff member (as seen with a select few from the last batch of app hirings).
I agree totally with is except for the "not fun" part. The PRAS are there to look after the staff team, if that means doing something "not fun" then so be it, it's their job after all.

V. 08-03-2012 06:02 PM
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Posted by Talon (Post 173218)
The reason the general public wants to be a PR is because they think it's all fun and games giving yourself lightsabers and MetalStorms to run around with and impress your friends. There are a couple normal people out there, though. One thing I learned through life is that humans are wired to want to help people, and feel good when they help someone and receive a thank you. Those are the ones that make the best Player Relations staff; the ones that genuinely want to help players in need and contribute to the community in a selfless way. I respect those people, and those are the ones that deserve it above all else. I strive to be like them. Maybe I will, some day.
So you respect me? D'aww. <3
I agree with your post, however I don't think we're wired like that, but I'm just picky.

Sungwonc01 08-04-2012 05:31 PM
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Posted by Era News (Post 173272)
Lol this is absolutely not true, humans are wired for hormonal activity. I think no human would do a job without thinking for a millisecond if they will get a reward for their action. And that is a human.
The way I see it, there is no real reward for being PR. Getting 300 gralats a month? What are you going to spend it on, you already have everything.
Got a light saber? Kool but you can't use it for Pking. Nice gold souizen, but you can't use it for Pking or sparring.

The way I see it, the only real award is the buzz you get after helping new players, giving players ec after winning events and having a awesome reputation when you resign.

And getting a awesome gopher <3

NCJohn 08-04-2012 06:23 PM
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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 174000)
The way I see it, there is no real reward for being PR. Getting 300 gralats a month? What are you going to spend it on, you already have everything.
Got a light saber? Kool but you can't use it for Pking. Nice gold souizen, but you can't use it for Pking or sparring.

The way I see it, the only real award is the buzz you get after helping new players, giving players ec after winning events and having a awesome reputation when you resign.

And getting a awesome gopher <3
you get paid gelats not gralats, they're different. You can use gelats to buy pc gold or other things for pc servers.

MattKan 08-04-2012 06:29 PM
I always liked that Era had applications open to the public. But now, it's the complete other end of the spectrum. I'm surprised that you guys did this knowing how widely this method was criticized when it was used with people like NYN on Classic iPhone. Even they ended up opening applications, so while they took a step in the right direction, you guys are going back to the beginning.

Njc2823 08-04-2012 06:29 PM
i don't think some players know that some of the best PRs are 13 or so

Talon 08-04-2012 07:02 PM
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Posted by Era News (Post 173272)
Lol this is absolutely not true, humans are wired for hormonal activity. I think no human would do a job without thinking for a millisecond if they will get a reward for their action. And that is a human.
I'm not talking about monotonous tasks like jobs, if that's what you think I'm referring to. My signature also applies to this, if you mean helping others online. But, if someone is going to PM you, "Where would I find Panther International?", are you going to tell me you're going to charge the guy 5 shells for an answer? Doubt it; you're more likely to give him the answer and feel good when he replies "Thank you, it means a lot." If you're not like that, you're not cut out to be hired.

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Posted by MattKan (Post 174017)
I always liked that Era had applications open to the public. But now, it's the complete other end of the spectrum. I'm surprised that you guys did this knowing how widely this method was criticized when it was used with people like NYN on Classic iPhone. Even they ended up opening applications, so while they took a step in the right direction, you guys are going back to the beginning.
Agreed, Classic's application hiring staff was mainly taken out by one person; Julius. He hired a couple good staff members that turned out pretty well out of those applications; who no one knew about previously. It does open up another horizon of players as candidates to be the next staff member, as opposed to the usual Zanza or Magic members that were always being hired.

Sungwonc01 08-04-2012 08:16 PM
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Posted by NCJohn (Post 174012)
you get paid gelats not gralats, they're different. You can use gelats to buy pc gold or other things for pc servers.
Opps.

Bas! 08-04-2012 10:17 PM
people on start begging for you to ask them a question so they can awnser it isnt really true either. thats not how they always act.

Ash* 08-05-2012 12:03 AM
Just trust the prs/admins they know what there doing and just deal with it its probebly more efficent and easier for the prs/admins

Billy 08-05-2012 12:30 AM
I know people perfect for the job,nice mature people.

Xaldin 08-05-2012 03:07 AM
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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 173168)
I was actually partly hired because of the way that I act here. Also, I'm not a super famous person, people know me as "That kid who AFK's by a tree" So it's not just all biased. Same with EvilXhunter, he wasn't well known at all, no one new him.
Actually you got ThunderStorm who recommended you. Am I right?

Marker 08-05-2012 03:18 AM
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Posted by Zinc (Post 173161)
I personally think applications should be back. Staff need to suck it up and read there emails (no one said staff was a fun house) your there to work. you have applications to find out information about you, and your maturity level, and how well you work is

Does anyone else agree ?
I don't know if someone has said this already, but, the application process was taken out because almost all of the staff who were hired with the applications got fired instantly.
They had lied about things in their applications to make them seem like better people for the 'job'. We wouldn't take the application process out for a reason like what you stated.

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Posted by Xaldin (Post 174339)
Actually you got ThunderStorm who recommended you. Am I right?
Thunderstorm isn't staff anymore and hasn't been for a while now. He was also recently hired. Numerous staff recommended him for his maturity, ability to answer questions, etc.

KeilyTruth 08-05-2012 03:36 AM
I want to becuz I love to help and look at things I like to read and stuff so that's y I wanna b PR

It's my first year so I don't know about applications I started in December and my sister said don't apply *egh*

Jester Lapse 08-05-2012 03:39 AM
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Posted by KeilyTruth
I want to becuz I love to help and look at things I like to read and stuff so that's y I wanna b PR

It's my first year so I don't know about applications I started in December and my sister said don't apply *egh*
This is Mariah nicoles "sister" lmfaoooo

iHot 08-05-2012 03:45 AM
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Posted by KeilyTruth (Post 174360)
I want to becuz I love to help and look at things I like to read and stuff so that's y I wanna b PR

It's my first year so I don't know about applications I started in December and my sister said don't apply *egh*
Nice grammar. You can't be PR if you can't even guide yourself to a simple application. I'll have you know that much more worthy people are applying for PR. Just because you like to help and look at things (dumbest reason ever) doesn't mean you can be PR especially since you're to lazy to spell the words, because,why and be. Hate to piss on your dream kid but someone has to be pretty high to even think about hiring you.


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