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MrSimons 07-29-2012 03:03 PM

Poor hiring method
 
1. Admins selecting players

This is just a bad idea in general, staff really isgonna pick the people they know well, no one else. I wouldn't expect them to do different as to really make a decision on hiring some random player they'd have to stalk him all night and day to get a good idea of his true character, thank that's not time efficient.

2. Over world Spam

Believe it or not players believe if a staff member sees them answering questions they will look like a better choice for staff and get hired. So now we can have the overworked ****covered with idiots "answering questions" which to some extent is spam.

3. Is this even true

For some reason I think this is just some bull**** scheme to make iEra players "play nice" with the hope they might be hired. It really seems sketchy to me and I'd like to know if era is gonna make a giant idiot move.

/angry rant

callimuc 07-29-2012 03:28 PM

The PRA isn't really selecting the players spamming "PM ME IF YOU NEED HELP" or whatever. It is still better than checking all the emails which is taking a crapload of time and probably aren't even true.
If you have any better suggestion feel free to tell it.

PoeticFolly 07-29-2012 04:28 PM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 169526)
The PRA isn't really selecting the players spamming "PM ME IF YOU NEED HELP" or whatever. It is still better than checking all the emails which is taking a crapload of time and probably aren't even true.
If you have any better suggestion feel free to tell it.

U mak me admn I b gud Nd hiar al mi fwends

NCJohn 07-29-2012 04:53 PM

The PRAs will be selecting some of the top canidates based off of the other staff's recommendations. I, for one, just finished my recommendations and I recommended players whom I don't necessarily know that well but have proven themselves to me to be capable of the position. Also my recommendees aren't that well known on iEra so you can't also argue that its's just a popularity contest.

Wester 07-29-2012 05:18 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 169579)
The PRAs will be selecting some of the top canidates based off of the other staff's recommendations. I, for one, just finished my recommendations and I recommended players whom I don't necessarily know that well but have proven themselves to me to be capable of the position. Also my recommendees aren't that well known on iEra so you can't also argue that its's just a popularity contest.

Yay! More iClassic and Era PC players :D

eric 07-30-2012 02:55 AM

I thouhght this thread was for poor's hiring method (Poorface's hiring method)

iSilver 07-30-2012 03:08 AM

I think top 9 players with most hours should take a vote on who should be hired.
that might be a good picture

eric 07-30-2012 03:14 AM

Your probably the ninth most houred person

Chaotic 07-30-2012 03:25 AM

I've finished my three recommendations. Only one of my recommendations was someone I personally knew really well, the other two are people I've seen demonstrating good qualities throughout iEra and Graalians.

PoeticFolly 07-30-2012 04:26 AM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 170098)
I've finished my three recommendations. Only one of my recommendations was someone I personally knew really well, the other two are people I've seen demonstrating good qualities throughout iEra and Graalians.

How many admins are recommending?

Rockstar 07-30-2012 06:47 AM

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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 170150)
How many admins are recommending?

I'm sure it's all Player Relations members, I'm not to sure about Sound Effects Staff/Graphics or Levels.

SnakeRekon 07-30-2012 07:02 AM

- Isn't taking part in recommendations aside from counter arguments-

I don't approve of the annoucement that was made to players in regards to the hiring, it should have all been done without their knowledge.

Marker 07-30-2012 07:09 AM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 170236)
- Isn't taking part in recommendations aside from counter arguments-

I don't approve of the annoucement that was made to players in regards to the hiring, it should have all been done without their knowledge.

Yeah, it should've been secret. There is most likely going to be players acting 'good' and help everyone out and not do their usual thing and say something like: "Get away from me, Noob!" or "Ask someone else, Noob!".

Jester Lapse 07-30-2012 08:47 AM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 169515)
3. Is this even true

For some reason I think this is just some bull**** scheme to make iEra players "play nice" with the hope they might be hired. It really seems sketchy to me and I'd like to know if era is gonna make a giant idiot move.

this part made me lmao

Johnaudi 07-30-2012 11:04 AM

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Posted by Marker (Post 170240)
Yeah, it should've been secret. There is most likely going to be players acting 'good' and help everyone out and not do their usual thing and say something like: "Get away from me, Noob!" or "Ask someone else, Noob!".

Actually, that's true, I go to start and say "I got a Question I need help!" then nobody pms me.
When they see Reno on the top everyone's jump at me.
"2+2+2x0=?" they respond "0" xD

Shock 07-30-2012 11:31 AM

The funny thing is that the average player doesn't even know Graalians.com exists.

Bulldogg Lucero 07-30-2012 01:28 PM

Lol, Just respect their dicision and go with the flow who know's you could be a reconmedation :P

Brought to you by: Lucero's Chocolate :D

V. 07-31-2012 06:25 PM

But one of the things I don't understand is, how? How do the staff judge? Personally, no-one chats to me, but my pm history couldn't be busier with people randomly pming me. It's a little unfair if you're been a nice person, but the staff can't see that because you don't chat. What I said is a little un-clear, but I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from.

Pimpsy G. 07-31-2012 06:31 PM

Evilxhunter will make a good pr. I think this system worked out nicely.

MrSimons 07-31-2012 06:41 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 170284)
this part made me lmao

It seemed like a dumbass idea to me so I figured maybe iEra staff made some plan to make players be nice to each other.

SnakeRekon 08-01-2012 05:47 PM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 171239)
It seemed like a dumbass idea to me so I figured maybe iEra staff made some plan to make players be nice to each other.

Trust me, this way is far better than Applications.
We still use them as some sort of basis when checking out the candidates however. So it's not like we made them entirely redundant.

Probably a little more bias, but more likely to find good PR's rather than children.

Godoco 08-01-2012 07:05 PM

Dont forget the classic: "HIRE EVERYONE IN THE STAFF GUILDS!!!!!"

Wenchester 08-01-2012 08:13 PM

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Posted by iSilver (Post 170070)
I think top 9 players with most hours should take a vote on who should be hired.
that might be a good picture

yes so the people who are afk 27/7 will get hired?

V. 08-01-2012 08:14 PM

But, what if no-one talks to you? That could be un-fair :P

iSilver 08-01-2012 08:17 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 170080)
Your probably the ninth most houred person

nope

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Posted by Wenchester (Post 172040)
yes so the people who are afk 27/7 will get hired?

its not top nine get hired bud,
admins select the possible admins,
the 9 players vote on who is hired.
i picked nine because you can only split up nine 9 times without decimals.
so if there is 2 people selected they can not both get equal scores.

i bolded so i wouldnt start a flamewar.

flamecrow 08-01-2012 10:30 PM

I too didn't recommend anyone, but I did leave my opinions for those that were recommended.

I will say, if you are a mature and good player, you will get noticed eventually...especially if you are always respectful/well liked within the community.

Trust me, we notice rude/impatient players instantly..first impressions count.

I will also say the following will pretty much not help you at all:
1) Having a bad reputation/broken severe rules in the past
2) Having players vote for you to be staff
3) Answering Graal related questions at start
4) Spamming staff or constantly asking staff how much you want to be staff
5) Sucking up to staff, having poor grammar/professionalism, having poor knowledge of the game/computer IT

poorface 08-01-2012 10:50 PM

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Posted by Wenchester (Post 172040)
yes so the people who are afk 27/7 will get hired?

Yes, because being afk 27 hours a day is clearly possible.

V. 08-02-2012 09:05 AM

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Posted by flamecrow (Post 172109)
I too didn't recommend anyone, but I did leave my opinions for those that were recommended.

I will say, if you are a mature and good player, you will get noticed eventually...especially if you are always respectful/well liked within the community.

Trust me, we notice rude/impatient players instantly..first impressions count.

I will also say the following will pretty much not help you at all:
1) Having a bad reputation/broken severe rules in the past
2) Having players vote for you to be staff
3) Answering Graal related questions at start
4) Spamming staff or constantly asking staff how much you want to be staff
5) Sucking up to staff, having poor grammar/professionalism, having poor knowledge of the game/computer IT

Guess I'm on the right track then.

Era News 08-02-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Posted by SnakeRekon
- Isn't taking part in recommendations aside from counter arguments-

I don't approve of the annoucement that was made to players in regards to the hiring, it should have all been done without their knowledge.


Johnaudi 08-02-2012 10:10 AM

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Posted by GodoT (Post 172006)
Dont forget the classic: "HIRE EVERYONE IN THE STAFF GUILDS!!!!!"

To be honest, people with the most reputation with staff are the people who are mature. So saying people that will be staff are recommended from a friend(admin), is simply true.
A staff member wouldn't be friends with a guy with low grammar, immature and has done several problems in the past.
Besides the people that are known' are the people who are known for there gratitude.

Ozzy_Magus 08-02-2012 11:08 AM

Internal Hirings?
hi5 favoritism.

SnakeRekon 08-02-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 172550)
Internal Hirings?
hi5 favoritism.

I'd rather favouritism than idiotism <3

Dude1310 08-02-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 172689)
I'd rather favouritism than idiotism <3

=(

NCJohn 08-02-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dude1310 (Post 172867)
=(

lol not that idiotism

Ozzy_Magus 08-02-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 172689)
I'd rather favouritism than idiotism <3

We're all intelligent,nuff said.









Owell...exept all the other 950 kids playin'

Richard 08-03-2012 03:29 AM

I really haven't read the whole thread but, I've taken a look over the application they use for hiring and its a standard psychological evaluation. I've actually filled out one that was for a previous job I held. Unfortunately, a lot of companies are using this to hire people now a days

SnakeRekon 08-03-2012 09:53 AM

People hire by getting their friends hired, works irl, can work on here! :p

Era News 08-03-2012 10:54 AM

Quote:

Posted by SnakeRekon
People hire by getting their friends hired, works irl, can work on here! :p

Exactly what I thought.
I've said this once and I'll say it again
The administrative team isn't for everyone


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