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Ace 07-16-2012 01:09 AM

Illegal Merge
 
Didn't someone get 6k hours and 300k kills or something by an illegal account merge. And nobodys doing anything about it?

slasher 07-16-2012 01:11 AM

Wasn't it Duke

DragonRider 07-16-2012 01:14 AM

snk became Duke's bitch and gave him all the stats and restored Vincey's account.
Just kidding, yeah it was Duke. No idea why his stuff was restored and recovered.

Ace 07-16-2012 01:25 AM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 162341)
snk became Duke's bitch and gave him all the stats and restored Vincey's account.
Just kidding, yeah it was Duke. No idea why his stuff was restored and recovered.

so your not kidding...that's..erm unfair?

HomoPanda 07-16-2012 05:18 AM

this issue was handled and resolved already.
why are you bringing up a subject that; 1) has nothing to do with you? and 2) Andrew & Street have already handled it.

Ace 07-16-2012 05:20 AM

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Posted by HomoPanda (Post 162409)
this issue was handled and resolved already.
why are you bringing up a subject that; 1) has nothing to do with you? and 2) Andrew & Street have already handled it.

1)Because I have one of ieras highest PK count it matters
2)Apparently it's not

HomoPanda 07-16-2012 05:22 AM

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Posted by Ace (Post 162411)
1)Because I have one of ieras highest PK count it matters
2)Apparently it's not

1)It has nothing to do with you.
2)It was handled. Street & Andrew reset duke's account of all his items, heads, hats, bodies, and his spar was reset. They allowed him to keep the PK's & Hours because thats their right.

Ace 07-16-2012 05:24 AM

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Posted by HomoPanda (Post 162414)
1)It has nothing to do with you.
2)It was handled. Street & Andrew reset duke's account of all his items, heads, hats, bodies, and his spar was reset. They allowed him to keep the PK's & Hours because thats their right.

1)hope your not blind
2)so 150k pks popped out of nowhere, makes sence.
Anyways if it's been doubt with I'm fine with that

HomoPanda 07-16-2012 05:25 AM

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Posted by Ace (Post 162418)
1)hope your not blind
2)so 150k pks popped out of nowhere, makes sence.
Anyways if it's been doubt with I'm fine with that

i'm not blind, the subject of duke's account has nothing to do with you. Stop crying over someone having more pk's.

Ace 07-16-2012 05:26 AM

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Posted by HomoPanda (Post 162419)
i'm not blind, the subject of duke's account has nothing to do with you. Stop crying over someone having more pk's.

You won't understand with the little amounts of kills you have

HomoPanda 07-16-2012 05:28 AM

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Posted by Ace (Post 162420)
You won't understand with the little amounts of kills you have

all i understand is you're crying over a virtual kill amount. My goal on Era was to reach 100k, and i was one of the first 5 to do so, so i stopped pking.

Ace 07-16-2012 05:32 AM

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Posted by HomoPanda (Post 162422)
all i understand is you're crying over a virtual kill amount. My goal on Era was to reach 100k, and i was one of the first 5 to do so, so i stopped pking.

I'm not crying.

NCJohn 07-16-2012 07:57 AM

The matter of dukes account is not your Buisness, there is no special reward for having more Pks then someone else. Like HP said? Street has already dealt with the issue and everything was resolved. Bringing up resolved issues like this can start flame wars. Don't start up flame wars ._.

ManBearPig 07-16-2012 08:03 AM

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Posted by Ace (Post 162339)
Didn't someone get 6k hours and 300k kills or something by an illegal account merge. And nobodys doing anything about it?

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...nna-hate-2.jpg

Talon 07-16-2012 08:05 AM

I don't always use the wrong image macros for memes, but when I do, there's a watermark at the bottom right corner.

Ace 07-16-2012 04:00 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 162451)
The matter of dukes account is not your Buisness, there is no special reward for having more Pks then someone else. Like HP said? Street has already dealt with the issue and everything was resolved. Bringing up resolved issues like this can start flame wars. Don't start up flame wars ._.

oh well, didn't know that. I still think 150k Pks out of nowhere is wrong though even though he lost spar stats snd such

SnakeRekon 07-16-2012 06:02 PM

Ace, think of it this way.. we don't want to completely destroy someones ability to play or willingness to play, we actually want the players to keep playing the game afterall

Higbey 07-16-2012 06:03 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon
Ace, think of it this way.. we don't want to completely destroy someones ability to play or willingness to play, we actually want the players to keep playing the game afterall

Even if they ruined it for other people by scamming accounts?

NCJohn 07-16-2012 06:37 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 162592)
Even if they ruined it for other people by scamming accounts?

From the way it looked most of his friends gave him their accounts; however, that is still not allowed. The issue has already been resolved by street so these types of threads are uneccessary.

SnakeRekon 07-16-2012 07:04 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 162592)
Even if they ruined it for other people by scamming accounts?

People should be more careful with their accounts period.
If they're willing to compromise their account, they're willing to risk losing everything. Sorry but thats teh game they decide to play.

Jester Lapse 07-16-2012 09:21 PM

That's the problem I have with iEra. They say rules but never enforce them to an actual degree.

For one, graphics stealing and taking credit isn't tolerated. But we will give people credit for some classic hats.

And this, taking other peoples account, friend or not, is not tolerated. But we will allow it for this one guy for whatever reason.

Staff need to stop sending mixed signals and get a permanent set of rules down that apply to everyone, not just the less favored. Because lets be honest, if some no name pulled this they would still be banned.

I am hoping to get Delteria to do this rule thing as well so garbage like this doesn't happen, and no one can call favoritism.

And with that said, I guess I can now go take my friends account correct?

Zero02 07-16-2012 09:43 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 162687)
That's the problem I have with iEra. They say rules but never enforce them to an actual degree.

For one, graphics stealing and taking credit isn't tolerated. But we will give people credit for some classic hats.

And this, taking other peoples account, friend or not, is not tolerated. But we will allow it for this one guy for whatever reason.

Staff need to stop sending mixed signals and get a permanent set of rules down that apply to everyone, not just the less favored. Because lets be honest, if some no name pulled this they would still be banned.

I am hoping to get Delteria to do this rule thing as well so garbage like this doesn't happen, and no one can call favoritism.

And with that said, I guess I can now go take my friends account correct?

I wish i could rep+

Engel 07-16-2012 09:44 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 162687)
That's the problem I have with iEra. They say rules but never enforce them to an actual degree.

For one, graphics stealing and taking credit isn't tolerated. But we will give people credit for some classic hats.

And this, taking other peoples account, friend or not, is not tolerated. But we will allow it for this one guy for whatever reason.

Staff need to stop sending mixed signals and get a permanent set of rules down that apply to everyone, not just the less favored. Because lets be honest, if some no name pulled this they would still be banned.

I am hoping to get Delteria to do this rule thing as well so garbage like this doesn't happen, and no one can call favoritism.

And with that said, I guess I can now go take my friends account correct?

Nailed it, +rep
Edit: sorry man, have to wait to rep you for a while...

Higbey 07-16-2012 10:01 PM

yep, ive said this before, you need a set list of rules, and the catergory of each rule and the time for second offense and multiple offense, would be easy to make a table with it.

glitching offmap (roofs and such) first offense, second offense, multiple offenses
hacking, first offense, second offense, multiple offense,
so on,

Bandit 07-16-2012 10:30 PM

Jester your a fool if you think staff favor me, its quite the opposite

Jester Lapse 07-16-2012 10:38 PM

how many time should you be banned but are not?

SnakeRekon 07-17-2012 12:14 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 162687)
That's the problem I have with iEra. They say rules but never enforce them to an actual degree.

For one, graphics stealing and taking credit isn't tolerated. But we will give people credit for some classic hats.

And this, taking other peoples account, friend or not, is not tolerated. But we will allow it for this one guy for whatever reason.

Staff need to stop sending mixed signals and get a permanent set of rules down that apply to everyone, not just the less favored. Because lets be honest, if some no name pulled this they would still be banned.

I am hoping to get Delteria to do this rule thing as well so garbage like this doesn't happen, and no one can call favoritism.

And with that said, I guess I can now go take my friends account correct?

We're lenient, I agree - that's because there is no need for further punishments after they have been enforced.

Bringing that up in this thread? Seriously Jester? We don't check all of Classic's hats to see if what has been given to us is stolen, we take it in good faith that it isn't. Get over it already.

Taking accounts isn't tolerated, if it was favouritism, we wouldn't have touched his account, or Ozzy Magus for that matter. Duke got all his guns from friends / fellow guild members. Besides, Duke didn't actually steal as many accounts or whatever as you seem to think he did z.z

If we reset people, we unban them. No point resetting them and banning them, we want people to come back to the game, not just hang up and go screw this, which you seem to want.

We look into the complete-nobodies cases as much as any other person, stop thinking we're so totally biased. You just seem butt-hurt nowadays Jester.

Sure, go take your friends account - we'll be welcome to reset you later. <:)

KeN(Best) 07-17-2012 01:14 AM

CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!

iHot 07-17-2012 01:23 AM

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73192858/imagesCA9SFXF8.jpg

Ace 07-17-2012 01:35 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 162819)

that's what losers say!

iHot 07-17-2012 01:40 AM

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Posted by Ace (Post 162823)
that's what losers say!

I'm a loser
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73192858/imagesCA9SFXF8.jpg

Sungwonc01 07-17-2012 01:51 AM

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Posted by Ace (Post 162823)
that's what losers say!

If you're a winner, then I am not sure that I want to win at games anymore.

*shudder*

iHot 07-17-2012 01:52 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 162832)
If you're a winner, then I am not sure that I want to win at games anymore.

*shudder*

I need to spread some rep
I.O.U.

Jester Lapse 07-17-2012 02:24 AM

Haha snake you so funny :3

As I said. If taking friends account is aokay nowadays then I have many friends. 500k kills here I come

Oh. And my butt is fine, not that that is your business! >=[

Sungwonc01 07-17-2012 02:24 AM

Good job.

Richard 07-18-2012 11:27 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 162687)

Staff need to stop sending mixed signals and get a permanent set of rules down that apply to everyone, not just the less favored. Because lets be honest, if some no name pulled this they would still be banned.

Hey! Well put, definitely in agreement!

I'm still waiting on either my monster truck or gold m4. :)

iWarp 07-18-2012 02:01 PM

Wow era is corupt , if this happned on classic theywould be reset and banned.They dont deserve these stats so they get taken away and they broke rules they get a ban.Its the way it should be and why would they only take away a few things.They take away other stupid stuff but keep hours and pks which is players most praised stats.

Engel 07-18-2012 03:19 PM

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Posted by iWarp (Post 163415)
Wow era is corupt , if this happned on classic theywould be reset and banned.They dont deserve these stats so they get taken away and they broke rules they get a ban.Its the way it should be and why would they only take away a few things.They take away other stupid stuff but keep hours and pks which is players most praised stats.

I know right
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&n...E-9jCDQ&zoom=1

Image failed -.-

SnakeRekon 07-18-2012 03:25 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 162778)

If we reset people, we unban them. No point resetting them and banning them, we want people to come back to the game, not just hang up and go screw this, which you seem to want.

^^ Losing most of their stuff is a pretty big punishment, we want players to return to the game as I said.
If players decided to keep their account secure, we would have no issues. But unfortunatly the playerbase can't comprehend that.

Engel 07-18-2012 03:31 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 163444)
^^ Losing most of their stuff is a pretty big punishment, we want players to return to the game as I said.
If players decided to keep their account secure, we would have no issues. But unfortunatly the playerbase can't comprehend that.

But isn't it more logical to reset his stats?
If you steal someone's tv, you have to pay a fine, but that doesn't mean you can have the tv... Now duke paid his fine but he got to keep his tv, which doesn't make sense... (hope I explained this in an understandable way lol)

Ace 07-18-2012 03:34 PM

So you don't punish correctly just because you want them to keep playing, that's just selfish

Engel 07-18-2012 03:37 PM

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Posted by Ace (Post 163453)
So you don't punish correctly just because you want them to keep playing, that's just selfish

And it's also not good because other people have less reasons to keep playing, like yourself, if everyone just could merge their kills there's not really a use of pking...

SnakeRekon 07-18-2012 03:59 PM

Honestly, thinking about it, the way we currently reset, it doesn't actually touch their hours or kills etc, because they are kept somewhere entirely different.
Snk isn't usually involved with the resetting unless there is problems.

Engel 07-18-2012 04:03 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 163461)
Honestly, thinking about it, the way we currently reset, it doesn't actually touch their hours or kills etc, because they are kept somewhere entirely different.
Snk isn't usually involved with the resetting unless there is problems.

Huh...?
I meant that the kills and hours (mostly kills) do need to be reset, and now they aren't touched, just his items...

SnakeRekon 07-18-2012 04:06 PM

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Posted by Engel (Post 163464)
Huh...?
I meant that the kills and hours (mostly kills) do need to be reset, and now they aren't touched, just his items...

No no, I mean, our current resetting tool basically deletes all their "flags" if any of you know what they are, kills and hours and stuff don't appear to be stored there so they don't get deleted when we do.

Engel 07-18-2012 04:08 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 163467)
No no, I mean, our current resetting tool basically deletes all their "flags" if any of you know what they are, kills and hours and stuff don't appear to be stored there so they don't get deleted when we do.

Isn't there a way to do it manually then? I know what you mean, but it is a serious offense...

SnakeRekon 07-18-2012 04:16 PM

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Posted by Engel (Post 163473)
Isn't there a way to do it manually then? I know what you mean, but it is a serious offense...

Personally I don't like touching stuff like that without consulting Snk, I'm not sure what his position is on the matter with hours and kill/death resetting however.

Resetting the entire account, pretty much just eliminates any chances of that player returning to the game, over the course of a games life, this can be extremely detrimental x.x

Engel 07-18-2012 04:33 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 163479)
Personally I don't like touching stuff like that without consulting Snk, I'm not sure what his position is on the matter with hours and kill/death resetting however.

Resetting the entire account, pretty much just eliminates any chances of that player returning to the game, over the course of a games life, this can be extremely detrimental x.x

Well, yes. But it's his own fault, he made a mistake, he has to pay for it. This isn't his first offense, and if you aren't giving punishments for offenses, only more people will merge accounts. If you punish the players who do this, no one will dare to steal accounts.
Problem solved ;)

SnakeRekon 07-18-2012 04:41 PM

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Posted by Engel (Post 163486)
Well, yes. But it's his own fault, he made a mistake, he has to pay for it. This isn't his first offense, and if you aren't giving punishments for offenses, only more people will merge accounts. If you punish the players who do this, no one will dare to steal accounts.
Problem solved ;)

By that token, it is also the players fault for compromising their account sadly >:[

Engel 07-18-2012 04:44 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 163491)
By that token, it is also the players fault for compromising their account sadly >:[

It is, but the price they paid is the lost account...


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