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Jezka 07-11-2012 03:07 PM
Gnome Quest???
 
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Hello, today I was on Classic and noticed something that lead to another.

Below is an attached image showing maybe a quest that could be coming to Classic. Sorry to leak, if you have information on this please post.

Image 1. A Gnome Cave where the Gnomes live.
Image 2. Stefans house, has a book which says about the Gnomes leading to image 3.
Image 3. The Gnomes know how to make a Special Hammer, this may be obtained in the quest.
Image 4. Shows another Gnome cave this maybe where you can get the hammer.

My last attached image shows what you may do for the quest, as there is a kid who misses his mom and dad, maybe you have to find them or something.

Please leave your views and information you may have on this.

Pazx 07-11-2012 03:12 PM
Brilliant.

Dusty 07-11-2012 03:33 PM
Gnome caves, as far as I know, are the mines that are located above Swamp Town. That entrance is locked though, and the other entrance in Swamp Town itself is blocked by stakes.

Jezka 07-11-2012 03:38 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 159486)
Gnome caves, as far as I know, are the mines that are located above Swamp Town.
Cool, but I do hope you can obtain a hammer, I think they done it as a little hint.

Higbey 07-11-2012 03:41 PM
Its from pc graal *facepalm*

Jezka 07-11-2012 03:48 PM
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Posted by Higbey (Post 159490)
Its from pc graal *facepalm*
Damn :(

Oh well, just something for the iDevice people to know

Vladamir Blackthorne 07-11-2012 04:11 PM
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Posted by Jexta (Post 159492)
Damn :(

Oh well, just something for the iDevice people to know
It's still coming to iOS though, the book in stefan's house is the only thing that's not relevant to iOS. It was there forever, even before the gnomes were brought into the game.

Jezka 07-11-2012 04:44 PM
cool :)

iHot 07-11-2012 05:21 PM
Nice research, but you missed a piece of info.
In the bank a book says that gnomes collected tears.

Rufus 07-11-2012 05:27 PM
Everything in this thread is relevant aside from #4 in your first screenshot, that's something else. Nice detective work!

Jezka 07-11-2012 07:23 PM
Thanks :)

Bin 07-11-2012 08:07 PM
This quest has existed since (according to my brother) 1999. Google it and you'll find a walkthrough. Why staff is so against rescripting these quests which are already made and releasing them for iClassic is beyond me. Also, the gnome stuff in swamp was added months ago. It should not take months to release one quest that has been in existence for well over a decade.

NCJohn 07-11-2012 08:22 PM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159564)
This quest has existed since (according to my brother) 1999. Google it and you'll find a walkthrough. Why staff is so against rescripting these quests which are already made and releasing them for iClassic is beyond me. Also, the gnome stuff in swamp was added months ago. It should not take months to release one quest that has been in existence for well over a decade.
Yeah but a lot of the quests ared coded in gs1 and would need to be updates. Also it's not as simple as simply copying the code and pasting it onto an iOS server. The are a lot more variables and what not that would have to be taken into account (i.e. the much larger player count).

Dusty 07-11-2012 08:57 PM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159564)
This quest has existed since (according to my brother) 1999. Google it and you'll find a walkthrough. Why staff is so against rescripting these quests which are already made and releasing them for iClassic is beyond me. Also, the gnome stuff in swamp was added months ago. It should not take months to release one quest that has been in existence for well over a decade.
You talk a lot for someone who is seemingly unaware of how things actually work in the development field.

Bin 07-11-2012 09:29 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 159579)
You talk a lot for someone who is seemingly unaware of how things actually work in the development field.
Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.

spades of feare 07-11-2012 10:06 PM
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Posted by NCJohn

Yeah but a lot of the quests ared coded in gs1 and would need to be updates. Also it's not as simple as simply copying the code and pasting it onto an iOS server. The are a lot more variables and what not that would have to be taken into account (i.e. the much larger player count).
Why did they have to make graal its own coding system?

Higbey 07-11-2012 10:15 PM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159582)
Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.
I CAN USE BIGGER WORDS THAN YOU TO REENFORCE MY STATEMENTS!

Remorse 07-11-2012 11:12 PM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159582)
Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.
Can't believe you're that idiotic.

Crono 07-11-2012 11:21 PM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159582)
Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.
THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CALLING DUSTY A JOKE IS A JOKE IN ITSELF YOU MORON. DEVELOPERS AREN'T PAYED AND RESCRIPTING TAKES TIME + SKILL. ICLASSIC HAS BEEN DOING FINE CONSIDERING IT HAS 0 CONTENT.

Obnoxious ****head.

GotenGraal 07-11-2012 11:38 PM
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Posted by Crono (Post 159637)
THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CALLING DUSTY A JOKE IS A JOKE IN ITSELF YOU MORON. DEVELOPERS AREN'T PAYED AND RESCRIPTING TAKES TIME + SKILL. ICLASSIC HAS BEEN DOING FINE CONSIDERING IT HAS 0 CONTENT.

Obnoxious ****head.
Stop with the "staff isn't paid crap". It's volunteer work if you're going to be a lazy and just use excuses than don't volunteer for the job... You volunteered for it, noone forced you to take the job.

Dusty 07-11-2012 11:42 PM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159582)
Oh yeah? I guess apparently how things ACTUALLY work is developers put up a couple of the pre-quest gnome levels and then sit around scratching their asses for over six months instead of actually taking a few weeks to rescript everything that has been in existence for over a decade!

[compensating]It does not take six-plus months to rescript things. You're a joke! The lack of quests and other things to do is killing this server.[/compensating]
I'll humor myself and respond to this.

The fact that versions of the gnome quest has existed at once point or another in the past has absolutely no bearing on whether it should exist now. Also, you assume it would even be worth rescripting and porting over.

You seemed to have failed to grasp that the current iClassic is not tailored at all towards questing. There are no questing items, there are no quests, and the overworld is not designed for progression. Hell, there aren't even any hp/damage powerups. Adding a single quest changes all of that.

Then there's also the question as to whether or not adding this quest would even have much benefit. They're one-time things. People do the quest once and then it's never revisited again. This is further compacted with the above points taken into consideration where there's no reason to backtrack and explore with new items. To overhaul the entire server to be more quest-oriented would be way more than a "few weeks" of scripting. I mean, have you even played the quests? You see a few screenshots and you assume it's decent content, and I hate to burst your bubble but most of the quests from old Classic quests were pretty damn bad.

Now, all of this is coming from someone who is a huge supporter of not only questing, but designing quests. iClassic has taken a step back and realized that in the end what made all variations of Classic in the past replayable were not quests and content, but in fact the social aspect, pk/sparring, and item collecting. These are what players always came back for. Most of the time you end up with a ****load of stuff in your inventory from all the various quests and you never even use it. Also take into consideration how much more time it takes to not only develop quests, but to design them. It's a very time-consuming process with very little payout. On the other hand focusing on aspects that provide more replayability, like the aforementioned social stuff, takes much less effort and gives players more "bang for their buck."

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 159638)
Stop with the "staff isn't paid crap". It's volunteer work if you're going to be a lazy and just use excuses than don't volunteer for the job... You volunteered for it, noone forced you to take the job.
No, but I don't see you working and spending your time helping out? Regardless of whether it's a choice or not doesn't change the fact that it's time spent helping thankless, inconsiderate people who do nothing but whine even when they're given what they want. People don't need to put up with the **** players like Bin dish out but they do it anyways, and they do it on their own time. The point is to shut the **** up and be thankful anything gets done because if it weren't for these volunteers you players would be getting absolutely jack ****.

Seeker99 07-12-2012 01:28 AM
Don't ever think iClassic will be like Classic PC or original Classic. They're in way too deep to rewrite systems and prepare the overworld for questing. Stephane Portha and Xor don't give single **** about quests, all they care about is you staying on the game and making them money. They know if something big was to be added we'd enjoy it and then be the same begging assholes and say more stuff needs to be added. If one quest was added then hundreds more would have to follow up. People like Dusty and Rufus who have truly love the game will try their best to make the expierence somewhat better for us without XOR getting angry that money is too easy to get or prices are too low.

Higbey 07-12-2012 01:43 AM
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Posted by Seeker99
Don't ever think iClassic will be like Classic PC or original Classic. They're in way too deep to rewrite systems and prepare the overworld for questing. Stephane Portha and Xor don't give single **** about quests, all they care about is you staying on the game and making them money. They know if something big was to be added we'd enjoy it and then be the same begging assholes and say more stuff needs to be added. If one quest was added then hundreds more would have to follow up. People like Dusty and Rufus who have truly love the game will try their best to make the expierence somewhat better for us without XOR getting angry that money is too easy to get or prices are too low.
Uh I think you mean Unixmad not Xor

Seeker99 07-12-2012 02:08 AM
Unixmad and Xor both get money and are both assholes.

123tepig 07-12-2012 02:10 AM
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Posted by iHot (Post 159516)
In the bank a book says that gnomes collected tears.
Anybody tried crying somewhere near the gnomes yet?

Seeker99 07-12-2012 02:24 AM
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Posted by 123tepig (Post 159687)
Anybody tried crying somewhere near the gnomes yet?
By tears they mean tears of Hera which are dropped down by the Gods of Graal when they take pity on a graalian who needs help.

iHot 07-12-2012 02:27 AM
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Posted by 123tepig (Post 159687)
Anybody tried crying somewhere near the gnomes yet?
Specific types of tears, they can be sold for high amounts of money and are VERY rare.

Higbey 07-12-2012 02:41 AM
Pachuka, the legendary one of mischief, played a venomously harsh trick (involving mortals being slaughtered) on Hera (legendary one of life and emotions) and made her run away crying, feeling empathy for the poor mortals and their fragile limited life, her tears plummeted to the ground, turning into strange gems as they sparkled in the sunlight....

translation for the less intelligent: "daamn Pachuka, yo bitchslapped dat ho Hera so hard her tears turned ta bling-bling!"

iHot 07-12-2012 03:09 AM
Don't you find those tears on classic PC?
Classic PC makes me sad on how much us iOS players are missing out on.

Bin 07-12-2012 03:11 AM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 159640)
I'll humor myself and respond to this.

The fact that versions of the gnome quest has existed at once point or another in the past has absolutely no bearing on whether it should exist now. Also, you assume it would even be worth rescripting and porting over.

You seemed to have failed to grasp that the current iClassic is not tailored at all towards questing. There are no questing items, there are no quests, and the overworld is not designed for progression. Hell, there aren't even any hp/damage powerups. Adding a single quest changes all of that.

Then there's also the question as to whether or not adding this quest would even have much benefit. They're one-time things. People do the quest once and then it's never revisited again. This is further compacted with the above points taken into consideration where there's no reason to backtrack and explore with new items. To overhaul the entire server to be more quest-oriented would be way more than a "few weeks" of scripting. I mean, have you even played the quests? You see a few screenshots and you assume it's decent content, and I hate to burst your bubble but most of the quests from old Classic quests were pretty damn bad.

Now, all of this is coming from someone who is a huge supporter of not only questing, but designing quests. iClassic has taken a step back and realized that in the end what made all variations of Classic in the past replayable were not quests and content, but in fact the social aspect, pk/sparring, and item collecting. These are what players always came back for. Most of the time you end up with a ****load of stuff in your inventory from all the various quests and you never even use it. Also take into consideration how much more time it takes to not only develop quests, but to design them. It's a very time-consuming process with very little payout. On the other hand focusing on aspects that provide more replayability, like the aforementioned social stuff, takes much less effort and gives players more "bang for their buck."


No, but I don't see you working and spending your time helping out? Regardless of whether it's a choice or not doesn't change the fact that it's time spent helping thankless, inconsiderate people who do nothing but whine even when they're given what they want. People don't need to put up with the **** players like Bin dish out but they do it anyways, and they do it on their own time. The point is to shut the **** up and be thankful anything gets done because if it weren't for these volunteers you players would be getting absolutely jack ****.
I'll humor myself by not reading your ridiculously lengthy response (seriously, go do some actual work instead) and assume you meant to say "staff are lazy asses who will write five paragraphs on a message board filled with excuses for not doing work instead of actually doing the work."

Work on solutions, not excuses.

iHot 07-12-2012 03:14 AM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159712)
I'll humor myself by not reading your ridiculously lengthy response (seriously, go do some actual work instead) and assume you meant to say "staff are lazy asses who will write five paragraphs on a message board filled with excuses for not doing work instead of actually doing the work."
Oh please I bet your a teenager sitting on his computer. How about you go do some work. I'm positive Dusty has a job.

Dusty 07-12-2012 03:14 AM
I'm not staff.

123tepig 07-12-2012 03:16 AM
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Posted by iHot (Post 159693)
Specific types of tears, they can be sold for high amounts of money and are VERY rare.
For some people 2500 is a high price. You don't see em' very much so could be called rare...

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Posted by iHot (Post 159713)
Oh please I bet your a teenager sitting on his computer. How about you go do some work. I'm positive Dusty has a job.
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Posted by Dusty (Post 159714)
I'm not staff.
*facedesk*

iHot 07-12-2012 03:17 AM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 159714)
I'm not staff.
Mark user bin as asshole.

Bin 07-12-2012 03:25 AM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 159714)
I'm not staff.
Making excuses for staff instead of demanding a better game? You're part of the problem.

Higbey 07-12-2012 03:42 AM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159728)
Making excuses for staff instead of demanding a better game? You're part of the problem.
claiming staff are doing a bad job when you do nothing for the game at all? you're part of the problem.

seriously, just shut up or youll be trolled on every thread and harrassed till you quit, the fate of idiots on this forum. no tolerance.

first off, dusty has done alot for graal pc and subsequently graal iphone, he has done way more work than you have, heck, ive done more for the server than you have. you want a better game? get to work. learn to lat, be able to use the level editor if you arent stuck on a stupid mac like i am, im jealous that pc users are able to use the level editor, i cant because im on a mac, all the solutions are way too complex and ineffective, because stefan wont make a mac version for the level editor. be happy you have the opportunity to lat and use graalshop, dont just bad mouth staff and do nothing.

Pazx 07-12-2012 04:04 AM
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Posted by Higbey (Post 159737)
claiming staff are doing a bad job when you do nothing for the game at all? you're part of the problem.

seriously, just shut up or youll be trolled on every thread and harrassed till you quit, the fate of idiots on this forum. no tolerance.

first off, dusty has done alot for graal pc and subsequently graal iphone, he has done way more work than you have, heck, ive done more for the server than you have. you want a better game? get to work. learn to lat, be able to use the level editor if you arent stuck on a stupid mac like i am, im jealous that pc users are able to use the level editor, i cant because im on a mac, all the solutions are way too complex and ineffective, because stefan wont make a mac version for the level editor. be happy you have the opportunity to lat and use graalshop, dont just bad mouth staff and do nothing.
HAHAHA YOU HAVE A MAC :')

Excuses.

Higbey 07-12-2012 05:29 AM
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Posted by Pazx

HAHAHA YOU HAVE A MAC :')

Excuses.

You literally cannot run the programs neccessary to make levels or ganis with a Mac, I've looked, all solutions were complex, unnecessary, and in some cases expensive programs, there is not way to just convert programs, and even if I could, who knows how that would limit or cause problems with the programs with uploading and saving and setting tilesets and stuff, And quite frankly, its more of Stefan's fault for not making a version that both Mac and windows can use or a seperate Mac version, not my fault that I am one of the many people that bought a Mac.

iHot 07-12-2012 06:11 AM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159728)
Making excuses for staff instead of demanding a better game? You're part of the problem.
You are an idiot, I'm sure you can't even wipe your own ass

Wafers 07-12-2012 06:46 AM
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Posted by Higbey (Post 159737)
claiming staff are doing a bad job when you do nothing for the game at all? you're part of the problem.

seriously, just shut up or youll be trolled on every thread and harrassed till you quit, the fate of idiots on this forum. no tolerance.
This is why people continue to troll me? Wow.

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Posted by Pazx (Post 159756)
HAHAHA YOU HAVE A MAC :')

Excuses.
Macs are better anyways.

"You'll never, ever catch a virus on an Apple!" ~NicePeter (as Steve Jobs)

Seeker99 07-12-2012 06:48 AM
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Posted by Wafers (Post 159865)
This is why people continue to troll me? Wow.



Macs are better anyways.

"You'll never, ever catch a virus on an Apple!" ~NicePeter (as Steve Jobs)
Unless you go on a website with viruses! Buy an Apple PC and then a Gaming PC both at something like $1200 and see which one has more power.

Pazx 07-12-2012 06:50 AM
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Posted by Wafers (Post 159865)
This is why people continue to troll me? Wow.



Macs are better anyways.

"You'll never, ever catch a virus on an Apple!" ~NicePeter (as Steve Jobs)
Well, you could still afford a doctor if you used a PC.

Wafers 07-12-2012 06:53 AM
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Posted by Seeker99 (Post 159870)
Unless you go on a website with viruses! Buy an Apple PC and then a Gaming PC both at something like $1200 and see which one has more power.
The only thing that can give an Apple a virus is that one weird Russian website that I couldn't care to find out the name of. Other than that, Apples do not catch viruses. Even from sites with viruses.

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Posted by Pazx (Post 159875)
Well, you could still afford a doctor if you used a PC.
If you can afford a Mac, you can afford a doctor, unless you are purely stupid with your money.

Seeker99 07-12-2012 07:00 AM
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Posted by Wafers (Post 159877)
The only thing that can give an Apple a virus is that one weird Russian website that I couldn't care to find out the name of. Other than that, Apples do not catch viruses. Even from sites with viruses.



If you can afford a Mac, you can afford a doctor, unless you are purely stupid with your money.
You are a total moron. Here's how it worked. Apples couldn't get viruses at first because they weren't coded for Apple products. Now loads of viruses work on Macs. In fact a good hacker can write a virus to execute on any OS. The only way a computer couldn't get a virus is if it didn't allow any files to be put on the computer. No Internet, no USB drives, nothing. Also don't give me the firewall story. There will always be a backdoor the hackers eventually will discover and get through.

Wafers 07-12-2012 08:00 AM
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Posted by Seeker99 (Post 159887)
You are a total moron. Here's how it worked. Apples couldn't get viruses at first because they weren't coded for Apple products. Now loads of viruses work on Macs. In fact a good hacker can write a virus to execute on any OS. The only way a computer couldn't get a virus is if it didn't allow any files to be put on the computer. No Internet, no USB drives, nothing. Also don't give me the firewall story. There will always be a backdoor the hackers eventually will discover and get through.
Umm, no. I'm sorry, but you are one person. Apple is much more than that. The only other way that I can think of for an Apple product to get a virus is to Jailbreak it and make it open to anything.

Seeker99 07-12-2012 08:02 AM
Yeah you're ******ed l. You clearly didn't read it.

Pazx 07-12-2012 08:19 AM
You are so dumb it's not funny Wafers. Up until now I was taking the piss out of you at every opportunity, but if you honestly believe Macs don't get viruses you need your brain checked.

MrSimons 07-12-2012 08:21 AM
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Posted by Bin (Post 159712)
I'll humor myself by not reading your ridiculously lengthy response (seriously, go do some actual work instead) and assume you meant to say "staff are lazy asses who will write five paragraphs on a message board filled with excuses for not doing work instead of actually doing the work."

Work on solutions, not excuses.
This is one of the few times I miss -rep.

Pazx 07-12-2012 08:21 AM
Also:

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Posted by Wafers (Post 159877)
If you can afford a Mac, you can afford a doctor, unless you are purely stupid with your money.
Did you seriously not catch on I was responding with the next line of the ERB?

MrSimons 07-12-2012 08:32 AM
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Posted by Pazx (Post 160025)
Also:



Did you seriously not catch on I was responding with the next line of the ERB?
I'll do it for him.
Let's talk about doctors, I've seen a few cause I got a PC but it wasn't from you, I built a legacy son. Now excuse me while I turn heaven to profit.


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