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BEH0LD iTz SAM 07-08-2012 06:06 AM

Justice Aran
 
Hello,
This isnt a whine thread, im just making this thread because i want to point out someone inparticular. Now i know its the persons own fault for trusting this person but i completely hated his attitude and want to highlight to you so you know what hes done.

Awhile ago Jeni (leader of xoxo some may know her) bought a taser on auction for an equivilent of $25USD. She is a nice caring person so she allowed people she trusted in her gang to borrow it. Now you can probably put two and two together that Justice/Jdog did keep it. Jeni was sad because she had trusted him, so i decided to get it back for her.

I first offered him items for it to get it back, he was agreeing but then tried to scam. The next time i decided to confront him ask him for it back, continuing this for several days to only get responses of language and other things. He continued to be extremely rude telling people to shutup and didn't care that he had stolen from someone who trusted him. I even betsparred him, which he accepted, and after beating him he just said he didnt care and ran off.

As i said before this isnt a wine thread, i just wanted to see what you guys thinked about him and his childish behaviour. If you ever see him, in the gang skyre or WU and hes using it, well you'll know how he got it. I dont want any comments saying things like "well she shouldnt have dropped it" because im pretty sure it's plain obvious she knows not to be so trusting now, i was just sick of his attitude and how he always walked up to her and waved it around to tease her. Despite her offering to forgive him, let him back into her gang and even give him some items if he returned what isnt his. If anyone thinks they could get it back she would greatly appreciate it. Many have tried but he is unable to listen to reason.

Thanks :/

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 06:23 AM

so how much is jeni paying you to look like a crybaby?

BEH0LD iTz SAM 07-08-2012 06:27 AM

-.- it is not my item stolen, i am just trying to get it back because shes my friend, kthnx for the helpful input.

poorface 07-08-2012 06:30 AM

She isn't paying him and she isn't really whining. She's staying calm and asking people that she trusts if she can buy a new taser from them. What justice did wasnt cool, but jeni has gotten over it and Sam is just being a good friend and trying to help her out.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 06:33 AM

cry over pixilated items. that's a sign of a true winner right there. she also got her umbrella scammed from what i hear so obviously she has not learned. you are basically asking everyone on the forums to harass a player for scamming. scamming is legal, grow up and realize it is a game. good lord

The Doctor 07-08-2012 06:34 AM

Really? That stinks...

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 06:37 AM

hell, let us start making a thread for every scammer asking everyone to harass him or her till he or she gives back the item. that sure will work. yea, no wonder snk barely looks at the forums anymore. useless crap like this

The Doctor 07-08-2012 06:38 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 157222)
hell, let us start making a thread for every scammer asking everyone to harass him or her till he or she gives back the item. that sure will work. yea, no wonder snk barely looks at the forums anymore. useless crap like this

Cool post.

MrSimons 07-08-2012 06:40 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 157219)
cry over pixilated items. that's a sign of a true winner right there. she also got her umbrella scammed from what i hear so obviously she has not learned. you are basically asking everyone on the forums to harass a player for scamming. scamming is legal, grow up and realize it is a game. good lord

No reason to whine about a game, but she did just lose 25$...

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 06:41 AM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 157226)
No reason to whine about a game, but she did just lose 25$...

good for her, maybe she will stop using her parents credit card to buy crap on a game that she probably won't eve play in 10+ years

BEH0LD iTz SAM 07-08-2012 06:42 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 157222)
hell, let us start making a thread for every scammer asking everyone to harass him or her till he or she gives back the item. that sure will work. yea, no wonder snk barely looks at the forums anymore. useless crap like this

Yea you have your opinion, we get it, youve made 3 posts saying the same thing, we understand what your saying but we have different points of view, leave it at that.

*4* now

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 06:43 AM

no i wont leave it at that seeing as every ****ing post is crying bull****. i have nothing else to comment on but "BOO HOO SOMEONE TOOK MY STUFF" you guys act like this game is supposed to be made for 9 year olds with nice pleasant rules, criss cross apple sauce, use your manners, everyone smile. no, it is not like that, and seeing as i have no other post to comment on besides these bull**** threads, i will keep going

LavaClaw 07-08-2012 06:49 AM

Look at the morality side of it. He backstabbed his own friend for the sake of an ingame item.
Sam isn't crying about the lost item, neither is jeni, this isn't one of those "X SCEMD ME!!1ONE" threads. I hate those threads as much as the next guy.

Higbey 07-08-2012 06:50 AM

Harass the scammer. PK him. Verball abuse him, find out his real name and find his Facebook. Let him have no peace. Harass him till he returns it.

Then watch her be a dumbass and waste more money on a auction. Iera auctions are Just lame excuses to get kids to waste their parents money to outbid for a little pixelated weapon. It's pathetic.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 06:55 AM

this
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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 157210)
If anyone thinks they could get it back she would greatly appreciate it. Many have tried but he is unable to listen to reason.

and the fact he is basically poking fun at the guy calling him an idiot and this that n the other just makes this a cry thread. Everyone starts out their scam threads with "well this isn't to whine or anything" It is her own damn fault and not all of era, or the portion who use the forums need to be aware of it at all. It's an attention thread.

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Posted by Higbey (Post 157235)
Harass the scammer. PK him. Verball abuse him, find out his real name and find his Facebook. Let him have no peace. Harass him till he returns it.

and through threads like this, this is the outcome. Harassment, scamming is legal, however harassing is not. Which was my point. This did not need to be made public at all

Higbey 07-08-2012 06:56 AM

Well the guy sure sounds like a tool that deserves to be cyber bullied till he Gives in.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 06:57 AM

yea, the same could be said about you higs

Higbey 07-08-2012 06:59 AM

Well in this case he sounds like he deserves to be harassed till he gives it back. Plus harassment is such a grey area offense staff hardly ever ban for it, if they did ban for harassment that would take forever and be just as bad as if they were to ban for scamming.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:00 AM

staff jail/warn/ban for harassment everyday. You play classic, we have different staff

Higbey 07-08-2012 07:00 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse
yea, the same could be said about you higs

Pfft yea but I'm used to harassment. I just block and ignore and report and continue on my merry way.

Billy 07-08-2012 07:00 AM

Sucks for her. :l im in canavi,skyre is 2nd gang for canavi..i could try to get it back..

Higbey 07-08-2012 07:02 AM

Anyway, I think after what he did no staff will be sticking up for or protecting him after the scumbag thing he did. Stealing from a generous best friend and breaking your honor? That type of lowlife crap won't be tolerated.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:04 AM

staff are to remain unbiased during any circumstance that involves punishment

Higbey 07-08-2012 07:07 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse
staff are to remain unbiased during any circumstance that involves punishment

Bahahahahaha.

Oh, your serious?

Seriously now, what's the guys account name and irl name? Let's get a little revenge going, make the most out of these "omg scammer" threads and teach those rotten dishonored brats a lesson.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:09 AM

goodjob sam, you've created the very first harassment thread

LavaClaw 07-08-2012 07:09 AM

You forget people have been banned for scamming, jester.

Higbey 07-08-2012 07:10 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse
goodjob sam, you've created the very first harassment thread

Hey don't jump the gun, I haven't gotten to harassing and trolling this guy. What's his account name? Does he use silly symbols in his name?

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:12 AM

people have been banned for scamming because they did it so often and so frequent snk decided to stop them himself. Seeing as he scammed one person, as have all of these whine threads have done, I highly doubt he will be banned. Unless you plan on banning everyone that gets accused. And if you ban just him that is a sign of favoritism to Jeni seeing as you do it for no one else, and yet again, staff are to remain unbiased

LavaClaw 07-08-2012 07:14 AM

You could say the same about harassment.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:15 AM

i did say the same in fact

look i am not defending the guy and what he did, i have never scammed, never will, because i am not dumb enough to trade.
I am just sick of these threads, which is 90% of the threads now. It's annoying, and it does not need to be broadcasted to everyone.
Also, this violates forum rules

Higbey 07-08-2012 07:17 AM

Well you say it's different between servers but pms can be done cross servers and someone could harass him out of game. Then what?

See how it's such a grey area?

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:19 AM

if it is done in public it is taken care of, report the person, it is checked.

with that said, did he scam her in public? is it affecting gameplay? is it any different from the other 200 scam cases? or is it just the fact that it is Jeni that people wanna do something

Paul Frank. 07-08-2012 07:21 AM

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Posted by LavaClaw (Post 157255)
You forget people have been banned for scamming, jester.

Baahahaha, I will advice you to shut up Jester. It's enough arguing..

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:23 AM

no, i dont feel like shutting up. try again

Higbey 07-08-2012 07:25 AM

I have no idea who jeni is, but if what the original post says is true then this guy is really a dirty bastard, it's not even a scam because she was giving it to Any of her friends and she gave it to him and he won't give it back and broke his promise on a spar.

Jeni sounds like a idiot if she was spending 25 bucks on a little virtual pixel weapon and a fool if she was letting her friends use it when it could be stolen. She may be a idiot but what this guy did is still really bad.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 07-08-2012 07:34 AM

Yea jeni has way to much trust in people, oh btw jester it appears people bave carried out your wish and started a small riot about Justice, and yea it is true Higbey, honeslty it seems that jester is the only one against it, yes scamming legal but it doesnt mean its right.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:37 AM

only thing i am against is stupid threads and encouraging the harassment of another player. both of which you have done. bravo

Era News 07-08-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey
Harass the scammer. PK him. Verball abuse him, find out his real name and find his Facebook. Let him have no peace. Harass him till he returns it.

Then watch her be a dumbass and waste more money on a auction. Iera auctions are Just lame excuses to get kids to waste their parents money to outbid for a little pixelated weapon. It's pathetic.

Yeah in other words chuck a Higbey (make a complete dk out of yourself).

MrSimons 07-08-2012 07:44 AM

Someones mad that Higbey completely owned them in another thread :o

Era News 07-08-2012 07:46 AM

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Posted by Higbey

Bahahahahaha.

Oh, your serious?

Seriously now, what's the guys account name and irl name? Let's get a little revenge going, make the most out of these "omg scammer" threads and teach those rotten dishonored brats a lesson.

Are you gonna smack them on the bottom?

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Posted by Mr.$imons
Someones mad that Higbey completely owned them in another thread :o

And what thread was that?

Jeni<3 07-08-2012 07:48 AM

Wow....surprise..as usual jester has such kind things to say towards me...anyway, I appreciate the support from my friends, it wasn't expected or required. Lots of peeps have contacted me trying to help, I am humbled by your kindness.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 07:50 AM

i say this on every scam thread, dont take it to heart.

and cool, sam even told jeni to get on to read. lmfao, point proven. attention thread ignite

BEH0LD iTz SAM 07-08-2012 07:55 AM

I never told jeni to read it i just said id try help her, i didnt even know she had a graalians account.

Era News 07-08-2012 07:56 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse
i say this on every scam thread, dont take it to heart.

and cool, sam even told jeni to get on to read. lmfao, point proven. attention thread ignite

Lol

BEH0LD iTz SAM 07-08-2012 08:00 AM

Jester do you not see your the one who starts these flame wars? It was just me saying i didnt like the fact that someone would do this and you just had to post 2 pages of crap only you and era news who im pretty sure is your other account anyway care about what your saying. We just want to help if you dont then fine, just dont fill up the thread unless you have anything useful to contribute.

I didnt even expect anyone to reply to it because the point of the thread was just for me to express my opinion on what i thought.

iEra News 07-08-2012 08:01 AM

this is my other account smarty, one that i havent used in quite a while. quit being a dumbass

LavaClaw 07-08-2012 08:02 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 157287)
Jester do you not see your the one who starts these flame wars? It was just me saying i didnt like the fact that someone would do this and you just had to post 2 pages of crap only you and era news who im pretty sure is your other account anyway care about what your saying. We just want to help if you dont then fine, just dont fill up the thread unless you have anything useful to contribute.

I didnt even expect anyone to reply to it because the point of the thread was just for me to express my opinion on what i thought.

jus saiyan, it isn't.
I agree with the rest though, its about morals, not about who scammed who.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 08:03 AM

Quote:

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 157287)
Jester do you not see your the one who starts these flame wars? It was just me saying i didnt like the fact that someone would do this and you just had to post 2 pages of crap only you and era news who im pretty sure is your other account anyway care about what your saying. We just want to help if you dont then fine, just dont fill up the thread unless you have anything useful to contribute.

I didnt even expect anyone to reply to it because the point of the thread was just for me to express my opinion on what i thought.

I start the flame war? you post useless spam threads.

no it was not you "only saying blah blah" you are asking people to spam him practically.

and i will fill up a useless thread with useless crap if i want. seems logical to me.


and that last part again is a plain lie. you are asking people to harass this kid, expressing your emotions sound way different. you are bringing attention to a scam case simply because it is your "friend". make a scam thread for everyone else while your at it since you are so emotional to the case

BEH0LD iTz SAM 07-08-2012 08:06 AM

Funny you should say that jester because i did, several times because i dont like scammers so i try help others get their items back.

Jester Lapse 07-08-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 157210)
Hello,
This isnt a whine thread, im just making this thread because i want to point out someone inparticular. Now i know its the persons own fault for trusting this person but i completely hated his attitude and want to highlight to you so you know what hes done.

Awhile ago Jeni (leader of xoxo some may know her) bought a taser on auction for an equivilent of $25USD. She is a nice caring person so she allowed people she trusted in her gang to borrow it. Now you can probably put two and two together that Justice/Jdog did keep it. Jeni was sad because she had trusted him, so i decided to get it back for her.

I first offered him items for it to get it back, he was agreeing but then tried to scam. The next time i decided to confront him ask him for it back, continuing this for several days to only get responses of language and other things. He continued to be extremely rude telling people to shutup and didn't care that he had stolen from someone who trusted him. I even betsparred him, which he accepted, and after beating him he just said he didnt care and ran off.

As i said before this isnt a wine thread, i just wanted to see what you guys thinked about him and his childish behaviour. If you ever see him, in the gang skyre or WU and hes using it, well you'll know how he got it. I dont want any comments saying things like "well she shouldnt have dropped it" because im pretty sure it's plain obvious she knows not to be so trusting now, i was just sick of his attitude and how he always walked up to her and waved it around to tease her. Despite her offering to forgive him, let him back into her gang and even give him some items if he returned what isnt his. If anyone thinks they could get it back she would greatly appreciate it. Many have tried but he is unable to listen to reason.

Thanks :/

the parts i highlighted further explain my case on how this is not an emotion post but an "I don't like him, lets get him back"

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 157291)
Funny you should say that jester because i did, several times because i dont like scammers so i try help others get their items back.

I said every scam case there is. I mean ever. Since you feel that this scammer should be harassed and punished go ahead and make hate threads about every scammer as well. Which is about 70-95% of era. goodluck

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Posted by LavaClaw (Post 157289)
jus saiyan, it isn't.
I agree with the rest though, its about morals, not about who scammed who.

If it was about morals, he would have explained to story, how he felt, and asked others opinions. He did all that, but also added the bit of which i highlighted. He also is agreeing with everyone here except me and "my other account (LOL), so that must mean he wants to see the kid harassed over a pixel item. That is the problem I have. And the fact this is a scam thread


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