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Skill 07-06-2012 03:56 AM
Building a gaming computer
 
So my dad and I are going to build a gaming computer soon. We're looking at parts and I'm wondering if this is a good build(we're not done yet)

Case: Raidmax ATX-802BP ($30)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156074

Power Supply: OCZ StealthXstream II OCZ700SXS2 700W ($40)
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-ste...er-supply.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341040
http://www.ocztechnology.com/res/manuals/SXS2_info.pdf

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 960T ($110)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103995

Motherboard: ECS IC780M-A2 (V1.0A) AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD
Motherboard ($30)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135250

Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series (2 x 4GB) 8GB ($35)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220558

Video Card – Radeon HD 6750 (with fan) for $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161379

Trying to convince my dad for us to upgrade to a Radeon HD 6850 for $50 more, would it be worth it?

Seeker99 07-06-2012 06:52 AM
The processor is deactivated. You can't buy it. Also make sure you motherboard can handle all of that powered stuff. Oh and make sure the case can fix everything.

Skill 07-06-2012 06:57 AM
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Posted by Seeker99 (Post 155455)
The processor is deactivated. You can't buy it. Also make sure you motherboard can handle all of that powered stuff. Oh and make sure the case can fix everything.
Yeah my dad asked the guy who built our last 2 computers and he said the parts are ok.

regardless we both agreed on a 3.0 ghz quad core processor.

Seeker99 07-06-2012 07:10 AM
I kind of regret not building my PC, it cost $700 and I'm still upgrading stuff in it. It came with Blu-Ray and an HDMI port, 5.1 channel sound and all that nice stuff, but was pretty expensive. I saved a lot though for how expensive PCs are where I live.

Pazx 07-06-2012 08:00 AM
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Talon 07-06-2012 06:28 PM
Why don't you get a sound card?

Pimpsy G. 07-06-2012 06:59 PM
Get a Geforce GTS 450 if you're getting a medium sized monitor. Its cheap now, (I got it for $60) although people say its not that incredible of a graphics card; yet I can run Crysis 2 in ultra settings (With directX 11 and high textures) and still get 40-60 FPS easily. So I don't know what they are talking about.

http://i.imgur.com/QLMVH.jpg

IPAD* 07-06-2012 07:05 PM
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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 155834)
Nice Graphics

Emera 07-06-2012 07:28 PM
I can't play Minecraft with low settings without having an fps of about 2 or 3.

Skill 07-06-2012 07:36 PM
Quote:
Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 155833)
Get a Geforce GTS 450 if you're getting a medium sized monitor. Its cheap now, (I got it for $60) although people say its not that incredible of a graphics card; yet I can run Crysis 2 in ultra settings (With directX 11 and high textures) and still get 40-60 FPS easily. So I don't know what they are talking about.

http://i.imgur.com/QLMVH.jpg
you're running at as low resolution, I'm hoping to run at 1920x1080 and maybe sometime 2560x1600 when its a standard

Pimpsy G. 07-06-2012 08:30 PM
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Posted by Skill (Post 155888)
you're running at as low resolution, I'm hoping to run at 1920x1080 and maybe sometime 2560x1600 when its a standard
1440X900 isnt that low (The picture itself is resized), it could probably handle 1920x1080.

fp4 07-06-2012 09:08 PM
Use PCPartPicker to pick your parts.

I would recommend a build like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bvPE

That Raidmax case isn't worth it when you can get a Source 210, that has much nicer features for building.

OCZ PSU is sold out, I'd recommend Antec's budget modular PSU instead of it or go with a OCZ 500W ModXStream PSU.

The Phenom is similar to the i3 2120 but both will perform similarly in gaming, if you want quad-core with Intel then go with the i5-2400 or i5-2500. If you're willing to spend a grand (i5 3570K, CM 212+ Cooler, Z77 Motherboard) then my suggestion will change quite a bit.

If you can get the 6870 it's one of the best $/performance cards out there right now.

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Posted by Talon (Post 155771)
Why don't you get a sound card?
Onboard sound is fine for the majority of users, if they need a subwoofer and rear out they can get a more expensive motherboard with those outputs.

Skill 07-06-2012 09:33 PM
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Posted by fp4 (Post 155978)
Use PCPartPicker to pick your parts.

I would recommend a build like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bvPE

That Raidmax case isn't worth it when you can get a Source 210, that has much nicer features for building.

OCZ PSU is sold out, I'd recommend Antec's budget modular PSU instead of it or go with a OCZ 500W ModXStream PSU.

The Phenom is similar to the i3 2120 but both will perform similarly in gaming, if you want quad-core with Intel then go with the i5-2400 or i5-2500. If you're willing to spend a grand (i5 3570K, CM 212+ Cooler, Z77 Motherboard) then my suggestion will change quite a bit.

If you can get the 6870 it's one of the best $/performance cards out there right now.



Onboard sound is fine for the majority of users, if they need a subwoofer and rear out they can get a more expensive motherboard with those outputs.
Would a dual core core processor do well with gaming? Not only do a lot of games take advantage of multi core rendering, but I've seen a lot of cpu intensive games lately(unreal engine games, source engine games). also when recording/broadcasting gameplay and keeping other things running in the background, wouldn't it be good to have more than 2 cores?

fp4 07-06-2012 09:52 PM
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Posted by Skill (Post 156011)
Would a dual core core processor do well with gaming? Not only do a lot of games take advantage of multi core rendering, but I've seen a lot of cpu intensive games lately(unreal engine games, source engine games). also when recording/broadcasting gameplay and keeping other things running in the background, wouldn't it be good to have more than 2 cores?
More cores (both that Phenom X4 and i3 2120 will have the same amount of threads though, so the i3 2120 is "fake" quad-core) would definitely help in that scenario but as far as gaming is concerned they both perform similarly. Intel makes a better quad than AMD though.

i5 2400 vs Phenom II 965 BE:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=363

AMD FX-4100 (Quad) vs i3 2100 (Dual):
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...rk,3136-9.html

Depends how much you want to spend though, if you live near a Microcenter they have an awesome deal on that particular AMD CPU $100 and it comes with a free motherboard.

Skill 07-06-2012 10:35 PM
Forgot to mention that we're getting the items that were "sold out" from someone else

BboyEatsbacon 07-10-2012 05:50 PM
I edited FP4's build a little and came up with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master GeminII S 69.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($48.47 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Biostar H61MGC Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.94 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($164.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 550W ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $661.31
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

fp4 07-10-2012 06:11 PM
If you're going with an unlocked processor (marked by the K) like the 2500K or 3570K you should get a Z68 or Z77 based motherboard that can actually overclock the processor. Otherwise it's better to stick with the usually cheaper i3-2120 or i5-2400.

If you're not overclocking you also don't really need to buy a CPU Cooler as the stock one will suffice unless you have heat or noise issues with the stock cooler.

That particular CPU from Microcenter is an in-store only deal and if you get one in-store they have a CPU + Motherboard combo that's even better for savings.

Skill 07-10-2012 09:33 PM
Already ordered the parts now. My dad didn't want to spend extra to upgrade the GPU. went with the build I posted.


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