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Vladd 06-13-2012 09:37 PM

Legalizing scamming pfft
 
wow era is really trying for people to quit era is just gonna get people to quit by leagalizing scamming cuz this is redicules i liked era but now its a fools paradise i have had enough scamming was bad before but now wow good bye era and to all those people who have gotten scammed im sorry and blame it all to the admins because i think its really low off them now they have dropable melees wow this is the end for me its quite redicules bye bye iera :angry: and to all those scammers be mature for once jez

Have Been Scammed out of
-Egg dance
-Head balloon (Halloween)
-Head Juggle (Halloween also)
-Summer Hackey
-Support Ribbon
This is sad that people would do it to fellow graalians

To snk: what are you trying to accomplish by legalizing scamming?.... Getting a good laugh? and iera staff for instince

NorthCarolinaJohn "I'm Not allowed to watch trades" says right there in his status

This Just make people wanna quit because i know i am done with iera so good bye friends, enimies, Scammers i'm done with your crap

I posted the link in my status that i quit and the link bai guys

Zero02 06-13-2012 09:38 PM

Good for you

KeN(Best) 06-13-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by Vlad (Post 140112)
wow era is really trying for people to quit era is just gonna get people to quit by leagalizing scamming cuz this is redicules i liked era but now its a fools paradise i have had enough scamming was bad before but now wow good bye era and to all those people who have gotten scammed im sorry and blame it all to the admins because i think its really low off them now they have dropable melees wow this is the end for me its quite redicules bye bye iera :angry: and to all those scammers be mature for once jez

Have Been Scammed out of
-Egg dance
-Head balloon (Halloween)
-Head Juggle (Halloween also)
-Summer Hackey
-Support Ribbon
This is sad that people would do it to fellow graalians

To snk: what are you trying to accomplish by legalizing scamming?.... Getting a good laugh? and iera staff for instince

NorthCarolinaJohn "I'm Not allowed to watch trades" says right there in his status

This Just make people wanna quit because i know i am done with iera so good bye friends, enimies, Scammers i'm done with your crap

Lmao

Um, there is no trade system.
Why are you trying to trade?
No trade system!
Don't trade!
Don't drop your items!

And if your gonna be foolish enough too, then don't make a thread after crying.

*no trade system*

Bye

MrSimons 06-13-2012 09:39 PM

U mad?

Vladd 06-13-2012 09:41 PM

sorry im not mad im just stating to snk that people are gonna quit if he legalizes scamming

Zero02 06-13-2012 09:43 PM

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Posted by Vlad (Post 140127)
sorry im not mad im just stating to snk that people are gonna quit if he legalizes scamming

scamming as been legal and no, if people quit because of scamming, iera would have less than 1000 playercount. So your argument is invalid

Daphne 06-13-2012 09:48 PM

Ok i agree that scamming shouldnt be legal but i disagree with the way you expressed yourself :P

KeN(Best) 06-13-2012 09:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E-WasNzVpI

Johnaudi 06-13-2012 09:57 PM

Actually, I know people who plays era only because of the scamming. And besides, did you read what the drop button said?

Mofujohn 06-13-2012 10:05 PM

Lol, admins fault for not making a trading system? It's your fault for dropping in the first place.

Marker 06-13-2012 10:18 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 140140)
Actually, I know people who plays era only because of the scamming. And besides, did you read what the drop button said?

^ That and the fact that the Staff team constantly are reminding us that you probably shouldn't trade are the reasons why it'd be your own fault if you get scammed. You can't expect to blame the game and/or Snk for something you are getting constantly reminded of.
Another thing, posting about the fact that you are tired of getting scammed and are just going to quit can get annoying. There are numerous threads about scamming and people scamming that people just get annoyed with and don't want to even click on it. Eventually, people will stop clicking on these types of threads that consist of the words "scam, scamming, scammer, etc."
If you don't want to get scammed, there's a simple way to not; don't trade with others. No matter who it is, or who they say they are, just don't do it. Even if it's your friend that you think would never scam you, don't. They could still easily scam you (probably easier than the other scammers out there).
Quitting over the fact that you have been scammed once, twice, or more times, isn't a good reason to quit a game. Also, if you've been scammed multiple times, why would you keep trading with people if you had been scammed multiple times? It's illogical to keep trading if you've been scammed already. Back when I started, I got scammed once (this was over a year ago). That first time I got scammed, I didn't trade again. I have gotten all of my stuff by earning it.

Higbey 06-13-2012 10:40 PM

I SHOT MYSELF WITH THIS GUN, ITS THE GUN MANUFACTURERS FAULT FOR MAKING IT SHOOT!

its not snks decisions if trading is added, dont hate on him, he cant change it. dont drop and you wont be scammed.

callimuc 06-13-2012 10:56 PM

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Posted by Mofujohn (Post 140143)
Lol, admins fault for not making a trading system? It's your fault for dropping in the first place.

Stupid post. It's not our fault if you drop your items. I's on your own risk. We can not watch every trade as people would spam us more to watch their trades and more invalid reports would spam our RC. We also are not allowed to add a trading system (and even ak suggested it to Stefan/Unixmad).
Do you want us to disable dropping? That way you can not get scammed, neither can you trade as return. We already added a message to the drop menu saying that it's on your own risk and thats it.

TL;DR: Drop on your own risk or just stop dropping.

Infernus Lapse 06-13-2012 10:58 PM

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Posted by Vlad (Post 140127)
sorry im not mad im just stating to snk that people are gonna quit if he legalizes scamming

that is rue. ive seen alot of people quit because o scamming, directly and indirectly. and honestly, i think there should be a system for locking items on tap much like with gralats on clasic. thatd prevent scamming alot more.

NCJohn 06-13-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Posted by Vlad (Post 140112)
wow era is really trying for people to quit era is just gonna get people to quit by leagalizing scamming cuz this is redicules i liked era but now its a fools paradise i have had enough scamming was bad before but now wow good bye era and to all those people who have gotten scammed im sorry and blame it all to the admins because i think its really low off them now they have dropable melees wow this is the end for me its quite redicules bye bye iera :angry: and to all those scammers be mature for once jez

Have Been Scammed out of
-Egg dance
-Head balloon (Halloween)
-Head Juggle (Halloween also)
-Summer Hackey
-Support Ribbon
This is sad that people would do it to fellow graalians

To snk: what are you trying to accomplish by legalizing scamming?.... Getting a good laugh? and iera staff for instince

NorthCarolinaJohn "I'm Not allowed to watch trades" says right there in his status

This Just make people wanna quit because i know i am done with iera so good bye friends, enimies, Scammers i'm done with your crap

I posted the link in my status that i quit and the link bai guys

Trading is only "legal" because we have no way of telling if some one has been scammed or not. We don't condone scamming and we dont suggest players trade. It isnt up to snk on whether or not we have a trade system. It all is up to stefan since a trade system could potentially effect the games economy. We aren't allowed to watch trades anymore because snk does not want us held responsible if anything should go wrong.
Please use some common sense and get your facts straight before posting.

Jester Lapse 06-13-2012 11:13 PM

See ya next week! :D

Billy 06-13-2012 11:16 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 140200)
See ya next week! :D

Beat me to it! >:I

iHot 06-13-2012 11:22 PM

Such a sad story.

Rockstar 06-13-2012 11:23 PM

C u nec wek

PoeticFolly 06-13-2012 11:46 PM

What I think of this thread.

Ace 06-13-2012 11:56 PM

trading is your own fault.
/close

Vladd 06-14-2012 02:25 AM

i read it and i was perfectly aware but im just saying snk is adding so more people scam by adding dropabale melees i dont see why its not like classic where u cant drop items

The Doctor 06-14-2012 02:30 AM

It's Stefan's decision if a trade system should be added. It's also the player's fault for dropping the item. In fact, the staff try their best to prevent scamming. If you log out of era in someone's house, you'll be auto kicked. Also, many PMs are broadcasted everyday about keeping your account info safe. There are also many PMs broadcasted that tell you not to drop your items.

Read>Think>Post

Ace 06-14-2012 03:04 AM

Quote:

Posted by Vlad (Post 140331)
i read it and i was perfectly aware but im just saying snk is adding so more people scam by adding dropabale melees i dont see why its not like classic where u cant drop items this is my last post to this

snk tried to add a trading system but it was refused. Stop bashing on him asshole

fsh 06-14-2012 03:09 AM

This is what ruins Graal for me, dumbasses who fail to realize the stupity of their own misktakes and failure of following rules and or suggestments for a better personal outcome. And now people like this are ruining a very nice site. GTFO

Thunderstorm 06-14-2012 03:11 AM

There's an element of truth to what you said Vlad. +Rep

Talon 06-14-2012 03:13 AM

What..?

If people like this ruin Graal for you on sites not directly tied in with the game, don't visit these sites and keep playing the game...

The Doctor 06-14-2012 03:23 AM

Explain thunder.

Thunderstorm 06-14-2012 03:23 AM

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Posted by fsh (Post 140403)
explain.
Bull.

Something must be done about scamming. It's killing iEra. Vlad is raising this issue, but it obviously could have been presented in a better way.

The Doctor 06-14-2012 03:24 AM

Great. Let's make a PowerPoint xD

L0N3 P4ND4 06-14-2012 03:31 AM

im glad snk/whoever does it, is making dropable weapons cause now i can give my brother a maraca and a clover

and this is one DAMN THREAD!

can an admin just close this now

fsh 06-14-2012 03:46 AM

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Posted by Agony (Post 140390)
What..?

If people like this ruin Graal for you on sites not directly tied in with the game, don't visit these sites and keep playing the game...

Im trying to say Graal would be a better place WITHOUT THEM.

Quote:

Posted by Thunderstorm (Post 140422)
Something must be done about scamming. It's killing iEra. Vlad is raising this issue, but it obviously could have been presented in a better way.

Few players stupid enough to lose items? Or more people gaining new things and enjoying the game?

Zero02 06-14-2012 03:47 AM

Remember, thunderstorm got fired for a reason

Jester Lapse 06-14-2012 03:52 AM

Let's take away dropping in general since people can't take responsibility for their own stupidity lmao

The Doctor 06-14-2012 03:54 AM

Den I can't b admen cuz I can't giv free burgar

fsh 06-14-2012 04:05 AM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 140480)
Let's take away dropping in general since people can't take responsibility for their own stupidity lmao

Its ALWAYS someone elses fault. Acceptance is the best way :D

K!LLA KEV 06-14-2012 04:07 AM

God just take away drop. Why do You need it since u never get what u want.. U just lose your sh!t. Take away drop, stop dropping , stop crying about it, earn your sh!t the legit way, WTH!??!

And scamming is not killing era. Lol

You people who cry about scamming and KEEP believing you won't get scammed again boggle my mind. Do you know the definition of "crazy?" to keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

iHot 06-14-2012 04:35 AM

Kev u got the last part wrong.
Einstein's definition of insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

poorface 06-14-2012 06:49 AM

Anyone else find it ironic and funny that thunderstorm is against scamming when he helped his friend scam, resulting in him being fired?

another ISH 06-14-2012 07:13 PM

The admins are all gay. Just wanted to say that

Sparkeh 06-14-2012 07:16 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 140183)
Trading is only "legal" because we have no way of telling if some one has been scammed or not. We don't condone scamming and we dont suggest players trade. It isnt up to snk on whether or not we have a trade system. It all is up to stefan since a trade system could potentially effect the games economy. We aren't allowed to watch trades anymore because snk does not want us held responsible if anything should go wrong.
Please use some common sense and get your facts straight before posting.

If you don't suggest players trade, then why are items drop-able?

K!LLA KEV 06-14-2012 07:40 PM

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Posted by Sparkeh (Post 140898)
If you don't suggest players trade, then why are items drop-able?

conspiracy, all the scammers give the items back to admins, so YOU have to rebuy/re-earn. tellin ya man.

Quote:

Posted by iHot (Post 140537)
Kev u got the last part wrong.
Einstein's definition of insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eT9JPthRLW...0/Meh+Face.jpg

Xertic 06-14-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Posted by another ISH (Post 140892)
The admins are all gay. Just wanted to say that

Hmm. How so young one?

Quote:

Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 140906)
conspiracy, all the scammers give the items back to admins, so YOU have to rebuy/re-earn. tellin ya man.

That is completely incorrect.

callimuc 06-14-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Posted by another ISH (Post 140892)
The admins are all gay. Just wanted to say that

No, not all. Just some/one as I know so far.

Quote:

Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 140906)
conspiracy, all the scammers give the items back to admins, so YOU have to rebuy/re-earn. tellin ya man.

Tellin ya man dats not tru.

Quote:

Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 140906)

Actually he's true.

MrSimons 06-14-2012 07:48 PM

Quote:

Posted by Sparkeh (Post 140898)
If you don't suggest players trade, then why are items drop-able?

That feature isn't just for trading ya know, I store most of my items on my guild house, not only that but it makes it possible to carry large quantities of ammo.

K!LLA KEV 06-14-2012 07:55 PM

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Posted by Xertic (Post 140908)
That is completely incorrect.

just a conspiracy theory

Quote:

Posted by callimuc (Post 140909)
Tellin ya man dats not tru.

read above

so quick to come to defense..hmmm

jk or am i?

http://conspiracylol.com/images/conspiracy.jpg

callimuc 06-14-2012 07:55 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 140915)
just a conspiracy theory



read above

so quick to come to defense..hmmm

jk or am i?

It's not conspiracy. Thats you thinking it and some other 8 year olds. It also does sound more like an accusation.

And no I wouldn't call it "so quick to come to defense", I would rather call it being online right now and checking posts.

Xertic 06-14-2012 07:56 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 140183)
Please use some common sense and get your facts straight before posting.

:love:

callimuc 06-14-2012 07:58 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 140921)
GOD i am j/k , remove stick from @$$.

I have no clue what your problem is at all. Making up "conspiracys" or any other crap won't change the truth that we can't do anything about a trading system.

Xertic 06-14-2012 07:58 PM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 140909)
No, not all. Just some/one as I know so far.

LOL


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