Showing yourself on Classic, illegal?
 

As most of you may know, advertising your guild picture on GraalOnline Classic, is now a "banable" offense. The reason being; players have been showing profane pictures of men/women, and of course other images. Now I understand where the Staff Team is coming from, but why ruin for those who are trying to show off there art skills, a funny picture, or even trying to boost there confidence with a few nice ratings. So, I wanted the forums thoughts on this matter. :)

Maybe from now on, there should be a sign in front of Burger Refuge that is a link to my thread where people post their irl pictures xD... Just direct them there.

But in all seriousness, this needed to stop. I realize there isn't a whole lot to do in Classic, but Classic is a PK/Spar server. Not a RP server. Maybe we need a RP server soon. I'm thinking relatively small gmap, small management team, minimal updates would do. Mainly just to get all of the 5th graders out of the REAL Graal servers.

They promote Facebook which is a site in which you share your real life pictures, but sharing them on your Graal guild picture is a bannable offense. Rule was never enforced until two years later. Hmm...

Wanna know how to advertise your cool guild pic? Take a ****ing tower.

Moderators for Guild pics, lol.

Advertising your guild picture on GraalOnline Classic is not a bannable offense. This is separate to the issue of showing yourself on Classic though, but that isn't a bannable offence either. However, it isn't something which is appropriate for a game, the staff don't want it in their game, and people's personal pictures are going to be removed if they're used in guild logos. It's an issue of privacy really; there's a huge amount of young players and a huge amount of creeps.

There is nothing wrong with showing your art skills, using a funny picture, or y'know representing your guild like it's intended.

Promoting a Facebook game has nothing to do with encouraging the sharing of personal information, including pictures of yourself. That's what you're trying to suggest here, but the two aren't related at all.

I completely agree.

A couple times in the past when I logged on Graal using Facebook it changed my username to my real name. I don't know if it does that anymore though.

I think it does still do that. One of my friends had a "girl" added via her facebook account linked to Classic. This "girl" was one of the ones that many people said was a boy irl and when their name was replaced with their facebook name, people found out it was really a guy pretending to be a girl the whole time.

It's really their decision on what gender they want to be in Graal, so this should definantly be fixed if not already. Not sure. This happened around a week ago.

1. Classic is a role play server, the staff have even made buildings for it.

2. Classic is not a PK/Spar server, more of a chat room. If you want to pk/spar go to era where there isn't safe areas vomitted over the map.

3. No one will play an updateless game just to chat and that server will die very soon.

4. The 5th graders are Graal's population.

1. Do you even know what a role play server is? Check out Valikorlia. That is RP.

2. Classic is a PK/Spar server as that is one of the main attractions, as well as a chat room. Anything that you can talk to with other human beings can be considered a "chat room". And furthermore, Era has a bunch of safe areas too. Era also doesn't have classic's style of balanced weapons like sword, bow, and bomb. You don't have to buy a new sword to do better, so everyone has equal potential. Also the fact that the OP was in relation to the iClassic server, not iEra, so why would you post something saying to go play Era when the focal point is on Classic server?

3. Speak for what you know, not your opinion.

4. Speak for what you know, not your opinion. There are many many many many people that want to play the game WITHOUT the young kids who act very immature. Many more mature people than immatures.

5. If you are going to try to find something wrong with EVERYTHING I said in my entire post, atleast make it unbiased rather than just your opinion. And why don't you post something on topic of the OP than just replying to another post just so you can attempt to disagree with it? Post your opinion of the OP please.

Gg.

Except Classic provides everything needed to roleplay. Valikorlia's roleplaying stance is stupid.

Valikorlia provides tons of commands for different emotes that would be useful in role playing. Did you go to last year's "Murder Mystery" play at the theater during Halloween in iClassic? I mean... It's possible to RP on iClassic. But not efficiently. Also the fact that many non-pk zones are now becoming pk makes the server more of a pk server.

You are a mature and reasonable person, Dusty, so I assume you will realize that I'm not trying to fight or argue with you whatsoever.

Let's not get off topic with pk, but really look around. Most people on classic are not adults nor very mature. Also never did I say I wanted a game filled with immature kids, I just said most people playing are very immature. And I would love a reason that anyone would like to play I tiny updateless server, and yes it would die very soon, just look at the Facebook server, none the less it won't happen anyway so no point arguing about that.

Tons of games allow people to upload profile pictures.. Hell, you can even do it in GameCenter on iOS. People should be allowed to upload profile pictures, but give them a profile, not guild picture, for their personal garbage.

Guild pictures should be for the guild, but you can also add profile pictures, which would make a lot of sense.

the guild picture is for representing the guild, showing pics of yourself or other people isnt allowed, niether are innapropriate pics, really thats pretty easy to understand, its not something negotiable. graal can have rp, but not THAT type of roleplaying.

showing pictures of yourself by abusing a function meant to display a picture to represent a guild is not roleplaying. now say someone was playing as a zorbi and put a picture of a zorbi as their guild pic, and roleplayed as a zorbi. that would be okay, honestly, this game was not meant for horny teens and girls with self esteem issues to advertise pictures of themself. theres plenty of places on the internet to be a idiot and do that. not here.

as for the bans, i feel thats a little harsh with the extreme ban times, but i suppose its the only way other than deleting the guild to enforce it.

Every time you say 'bannable' I think 'banana'. True story. Therefore, I will use banana in place of bannable. It's my birthday. I'm allowed.

I'm pretty sure that worldwide you learn about interwebs safety at school. I know I did in New Zealand. They taught as when we were about eight - a week long interwebs safety 'seminar' with the local constable.

I think you can safely assume that eight or nine is the youngest age for iPlayers. Therefore, they should know that showing your face on the internet to a whole lot of really creepy people is wrong. But they don't, because no bad **** has ever happened to them. They will try it out, and keep doing it until something bad happens.

If the child is clearly under around thirteen, remove it.

Over thirteen, people should really know. They understand it is a bad idea, and I would hope they know the amount of creepy people playing Graal. It should be their choice whether or not to do it - they should be starting to make mature decisions. Warn them. If this picture is, you might say, 'provocative' in nature, remove it.


Or just remove it anyway, as it is really idiotic to show yourself through the internet to strangers. That is what I would do. I posted the other to see the other side.

Normal guild-pic wise, guild pics are meant to be guild pictures. Something RELATED to the guild. Whether it be a screenshot of a note with a message, or a nice image with the guilds name. But people don't use it for that, and if they decide to have, I don't know, some meme or something that should be okay. But if the picture is 'sexual' in any way, shape or form, this picture needs to be removed. It'd burn the little kids eyes, and mine too.

Remove the pic, and the leader should be banned for eighty hours or something. In extreme cases, remove the guild.

I hope what I said made any sense...

Just because it's better equipped for roleplaying does not suddenly change the fact Classic provides everything needed for roleplaying. In fact, all you really need to roleplay is the ability to change your looks and the ability to talk to others. Boom. Roleplaying.

Also, PKing does impede on roleplay necessarily. Just because someone else can kill you does not mean you can't roleplay. A good roleplayer would make that a part of their lives.

PS I played MUDs for a VERY long time. If you're not aware, a MUD is a text-based online MMO. Roleplaying is heavy stuff on there, and gameplay still offers an MMO-like experience with killing mobs, grinding XP and even PKing.

For all those people that want to be admin, heres a job for them. They can look at the pictures. I really hate people in guild pictures though so I AM kind of satisfied. The next thing they need to do is block "kik" and all things related to outside refrences. This is a big reason that graal people are quitting. (Or atleast thats why I did, Before I rejoined.) Back to the point, they need admins to do jobs such as going around graal city giving warnings to all advertisers or offenders. It feels like there's more admins for FUN then for SAFETY and DEVELOPMENT I mean, if you had more admins to do more jobs, I feel that graal would not only be safer, better, but it would also stop pictures of people or inappropriate pictures from entering guilds. Oh and for all you people claimed to be scammed this would also stop that. (Sorry for poor spelling.)

Next time, please read my post before you respond.

why?
dont censor things that don't need to be censored. It causes more problems then it solves. Soon enough we wont even be able to talk without something unintentional being censored.

i agree. stop the pervy pics

huh?

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Okay? Since when is LIA's opinion deemed law? ._. i don't get why you posted that. I'm not against RP on Classic, I was stating that I feel the game's focal point is PK/Spar.

"graal is a MMORPG" is a fact not opinion. Even if it was an opinion, LiA has common sense, so i usually like he opinion. and there are several, if not the majority of, players who dont like PK/spar/tower. and even tho i am the PK type, sometimes i do like to go goof off with friends. im just saying that there doesnt need to a new server just for the role playing 5th graders, because this is a "mmorpg"
back on topic with the thread, i see y "police" is censored, bc they are called "graal police". but has anyone tried "cop" or "officer?" i dont know if these are censored or not. if they are, thats over the line of being too protective. people can impersonate staff w/o having "admin" or "police" in their name.

Wrong thread broski.

Lmfao. Sorry for this spam. But that was funny.

ever tried Amitoune? its one of the first flash based MUD clients, tell em Higbey sent you.

xF fail. sorry i just knew it was getting off topic n forgot which i was posting on...

Nah I played Archaea mostly. But I didn't use the flash-based clients(or with Archaea, Java at first) as I much preferred a more powerful client as I scripted my own systems.

This isn't me personally, but a lot of people are upset about having there pictures taking down. So this was made out of curiosity, I always like hearing the communities opinions!