Jester Cap
 

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...tercap_red.pnghttp://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...cap_purple.pnghttp://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ercap_grey.pnghttp://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...rcap_green.pnghttp://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ercap_gold.pnghttp://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ercap_cyan.pnghttp://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ercap_blue.pnghttp://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...tercap_gnp.png



So i wanted to make a jester hat type deal and this is what I came up with, I made it into multiple colors so people would have a variety, do you guys like them?


Also no one has the right to use these hats or give them to a server as their own, if you want to use one just forum message me why and I will say yes or no. I do not like thieves. Thank you

Great work!

I like them! Adds a bit more of variety to the collection of Jester hats already made.

However, i do have a problem with one thing regarding the jester hat. The hat base's (the black) dithering/shading is dirty. You do have a light source and ill give you credit for that but the way its dithered is not clean. Also, you used too much of the darker color on the front view and on the back view, you left a few light spots on

Optional critique but i still like them. Good job! :3

Thank you, my first truly complicated hat haha

I see what you mean. thank you for pointing this out and I will try my best to avoid this in the future. Thanks!

I don't know what to say.

I like them=p

x-x sorry they arent up to your standards teehee
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...tersavatar.png

thanks you sir



David tried to convince me making the cap multi colored would be a good idea, I disagree though, opinions? http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...e/tricolor.png

Nice!

Don't dither it.

I agree with Bam on this one. Dithering is really not necessary since you have such a huge color limit.
Terrible edit because of, well, it's just an example of not dithering.

http://www.4freeimagehost.com/uploads/e4bf2f43130f.png

when i read this i got the information on how I shaded it wrongly, can we possibly move on and find something else that is wrong with it?

If you did notice it, then fix it with our suggestions. Your other problem I didn't mention is color choices.
You need to have contrasting colors. You should move away from gray scale and also use other colors for highlights rather than the same hue.
That can sometimes help with the colors looking the same because you didn't shift the brightness enough.

thats the only thing that is wrong with it, otherwise it would be a perfect hat.

I myself do not like the face part though. Either get rid of it completely or design a new mask that covers the entire face, or maybe the top half and leave the mouth uncovered. The way you made the mask fits the defualt head perfectly but would look awkward on many other heads.

noted


Yes I see how this could raise a problem haha, I figured the masks that have already been made fit the default head and people still wear them regardless of their head, plus many heads have the same eye alignment as the default, but I do agree it could bring problems. Thank you

Apparently you're a liar since after that comment you didn't fix the dithering and posted an edit. One would assume that would be where you could have removed the dithering and avoided the dithering problem.

Apparently not if you shrug off a suggestion. What's your excuse for not putting our suggestions into the hat other than being stubborn?

I posted that pic to get it on my ipod lol, never said "Hey I fixed it here it is", you should not assume. Notice it was the same exact hat? :o

Also, I didn't change it because I had to take care of my brother today seeing as my step mother is busy trying to find a job after being laid off. It it is so important to you I'll whip up an undethered one just for you

ah, and don't call me a liar. Try to understand a situation before attacking someone over it

This one was posted after Mai's suggestion as well as after your comment about avoiding it in the future. Notice how it's edited meaning you had the chance to remove the dithering before?
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...e/tricolor.png

Don't throw out excuse after excuse, or get snippy. I called you out on your bull**** because you felt the need to post a quote, which in the end was a lie, in response to my post.

You've been on the forums for hours today, that's plenty of time you could have used to fix your hat.

that was a quick recolor that david suggested that I had made prior to even posting this thread

it is easy to type while watching a child. It is difficult to focus on making something while watching a child. I like to do my work uninterrupted and thoroughly sorry if you have a different way of doing things

So you Last edited by Jester Lapse; Yesterday at BLAHTIME. to add in something made prior to the thread? You didn't include it with the first post right? Yeah, okay guy. :unsure:

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...e/forriley.png removed the dithering as was suggested removed the mask as was suggested, changed the color variety in the calls as suggested. currently working on colors in the cap itself. I do listen to all feedback and I do try to improve, but when you insult me, it doesn't help me nor does it make me want to change it FOR YOU, I do things on my time not yours because you don't know what I am going through. So kindly keep rude comments to yourself and provide feedback like i asked

why would i include something I didn't like? I posted it after because i wanted opinions on it. I am confused by this attack

You're full of excuses 'eh? :blush:

you're full of attacks to boost your self esteem eh?

No excuse for all the excuses? How did me pointing out your lie, and over abundance of excuses boost my self esteem?

point out what? Sorry I have a life and can't do things for you on command. Sorry you like to assume things and can't think logically that it might me true. Sorry you didn't realize that i already am in the process of changing it for you and you can't even put down your petty self esteem to give feedback on it. Sorry you think you are so great. Sorry I am not worthy of your "good job" just leave me alone

Now who is dealing the personal attacks? The worse I called you was a liar (which you never disproved, but gave some bull**** excuse) while you basically call me an idiot claiming I can't think logically. :P

You almost make it sound like I'm bullying you. Poor ole' Jester.

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...se/changed.png made a few changes consisting of color all i will do for tonight as I have school tomorrow, leave comments and feedback and I'll get back to it when I can. Also I already know it is still a bit dark and will fix this at a later date


oh and riley, quit thinking you are greater than me and trying to belittle me. I am not like the other kids you pick on for ****s and giggles and I take my ability and my improving process seriously. Stop trying to tick me off and annoy me because it will hinder me from this process. I will not "rage quit" for your amusement and will always try. So get off your high horse. And yes i am calling you an idiot because you can't be mature enough to move on. Don't like what I post? Ignore it and move on bud, last i checked this is my thread.

'Poor me' styled comment, I love it. I never belittled. Point out where I actually made a comment that belittles your talent. I only called you a liar because of your quote (which was a lie) in response to my post. I've also never claimed I am great nor do I really shove my history in anyone's face. You're actually belittling me, but it doesn't bother me. :blush:

I don't care if you claim ownership of a thread (which you posted in a public forum) big man. :'(

belittling

Forum Rules
Be Nice:

• Show respect to your fellow Graalians, even if you don't believe that they deserve it. We want these forums to be an enjoyable experience for everyone involved, so all bullying is off limits.

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forum rules, take your pick

Maybe you should reread what I said. :P Oh, quoting the rules now.
"As a general rule, if a thread doesn't provide anything of interest to you, just don't post in it!"

This thread is pretty interesting actually which is why I'm still here. I've shown you respect until you stopped showing me it.

I showed you respect by even doing your suggestions. you expected me to be on your time however I am not. Also you do shove your history in peoples faces. I do recall the argument between you and pimpsy "I am sure he knows more than me /end sarcasm" This isn't the first time you have lashed out at someone just because they disagree with you or just simply do not do what you want. I was done with this whole thing when I posted the fix up for YOU, but if you insists on keeping this rambling going, do continue.

oh and you are the one who started with disrespect by calling me a liar, which I wasn't so that is an invalid argument.

Sorry, but you're quite mistaken just like you were in that thread. Care to try to dig up something else?
(Actually you showed me disrespect first with the quote response, but you probably missed that entirely.)

that quote was in no way disrespect, it was however a statement that I had made that clarified what you were asking. And no I am done with you. This thread was for me to better myself, not to bicker with hard headed people. Goodnight

With the final insult your previous point seems pretty weak. You took the time to rip apart my post, find a quote from a previous post, and then respond with said quote instead of responding with the 'noted' response by itself. I then proceeded to show you how the comment was a lie since you didn't fix it which you still haven't disproved while my proof can be found in the thread. I would believe you if not for all of your insults against me in this thread. :P

I'll see you later, guaranteed. I look forward to your insults and excuses.

I only have three minor issues.

1) I don't like the color choices. Jesters are funny, which would mean using brighter, more fun color choices. What you have now makes it look evil, which is probably what you want anyways.

2) The mask doesn't accomodate as many heads as it should. True, there are a lot of masks out there that are set to the default head, and people wear them anyways. But we should try to stray away from that...more and more people are getting custom heads now. It wasn't a big issue before because a lot of people were limited to heads that were based off the default. But iEra has changed, and the hats need to change with it.

3) The dithering makes it look dirty/grimy (which was already stated/fixed). But maybe that's what you want your hat to look like, idk. That's not my main issue with the shading. My main issue is this part right here...
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6...stercapred.png
By roakrok at 2012-05-29

Why would the upper part be lighter than the part below it, which is darker than the part below that? I'm really confused on where your light source is coming from. Not just on this sprite, but on a few of them.

looks good

Dunno if you saw this but the mask and dithering was taken care of. I'll work on the side today. Thanks

gOOD wORK mE aMIGO jESTER, nICE hATS

That's a jpeg... :'(

If you ever want to improve upon making pixel art, the only feedback which will help you (on this forum) is Riley's. He's the only active poster who knows exactly how to help you. If you don't want to listen to him, try joining PixelJoint. Post your pixel art in the wip and the feedback will be very helpful.

You can't just listen to the "OmG AmAzInG111!!" comments, nothing you make is finished; there's always something that could be improved.

Thanks.

It's off my iPod. Off course it's jpeg

I have never done that. If you look at previous threads and even here, I take criticism and say thank you and learn from it. He just wishes to be rude and I'm not going to listen to someone who thinks they are above everyone. Period

the original looked better than this one imo.

Riley isn't rude. :rolleyes:

In his view it is because the tone that is being presented but I really don't know.

I also preferred the original. Just doing people's suggestions like riley said

Ok

Thanks for putting yourself in my shoes and seeing it from my perspective

Thanks for sticking up for me, but don't worry about it.
You can't get through to a person like him regardless of using actual logic. :P

He's the type to make an excuse rather than admit his problem.

I like how you keep claiming this regardless of the cold, hard, fact that I haven't said anything that would suggest something like that.
You're a very insecure person aye'. You like to insult people, so whom is it that is truly rude? (You, in case you didn't know.)

More insults *clap*

That brings my total up to two, want me to count yours? :blush:

Try staying on topic.

I'll count it for you. You're ignorant, hard headed, childlike maturity (what are you 13?), egotistic, think you know everything tool. Yea by the way going with your suggestions made the hat looks worse. So you're not as great as you think. Ignoring further attacks from children like you. Ta ta

How does this look?

Ooo, look at you go. :D This post is pure gold, it made me laugh. Thanks for showing it to everyone, Mr. Rude.
Your shading is still messed up and it makes it look like plastic.