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K!LLA KEV 05-18-2012 04:13 PM

Some suggestions for Era (Basing,Pk & Stats)
 
Since Snk says he is changing things around for gangs & basing etc. for Era I just wanted to suggest some things that may be cool to add in as well for basing, PK & statistics...

1.) I like how we are able to see the death count now by saying “showdeaths” out loud and then it pops up, but I think your deaths are as important as your kills are, and should be shown on your profile just like your kills are, maybe underneath your kills. This would lessen AFK (unless you really just don’t care about your deaths and stand around) and I would think would drive people to “try” a little harder, which would increase competition & would really show how good you are. (Unless of course you make your stats private which is sorta kinda noobish if you ask me…something to hide?)

2.) In regard to basing, It would be cool to see the amount of time a gang has held a base without losing, just like when we streak, consecutive time spent holding base would be nice to see as well, maybe in real time, like how you click on the name of the gang holding the base on the map and you see the gang news and gang pic, maybe see the time the base has been held as well, or on the gang scores in another section?

3.) This may be more complicated but it would also be nice to see how many times we’ve killed a certain player and how many times they’ve killed you, etc. this may not be possible to see in the actual game, but a webpage like graalonline.com with updated statistics tied to your PC number would be cool for everyone to see too.


4.) lastly, and this may be a little off topic, and even though Classic changed their graal city to Pk zone and then changed back to non-Pk, I think something needs to be done about all the AFK’ers @ start in era, it just causes lag and is pointless. People earning hours by just keeping game on and not even playing, Its also a breeding ground for scammers (even though if your scammed its caused by your own stupidity) admins may not want to do anything about this as they are concerned about player count and AFK does help player count, even though it’s a cheap way, hey…time is money.


Just a few of my thoughts…maybe no one cares about these things:\...maybe you do:D...if you do please leave some feedback , your own opinions & VOTE too plz!..& maybe a few things will change.

NinjAssassin 05-18-2012 04:28 PM

The gang system functionality needs to be expanded as well.

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 04:52 PM

So we make afk place to pk? Then all afkers go afk somewhere else then you want that pk too...

It's pointless and unneeded. Won't solve anything. And people like to actually socialize on graal and not sit in a virtual base or kill all the time. It may seem someone is afk but maybe they are pming and just don't want to talk to you?

Keep start safe. It solves nothing

K!LLA KEV 05-18-2012 05:05 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 118705)
So we make afk place to pk? Then all afkers go afk somewhere else then you want that pk too...

It's pointless and unneeded. Won't solve anything. And people like to actually socialize on graal and not sit in a virtual base or kill all the time. It may seem someone is afk but maybe they are pming and just don't want to talk to you?

Keep start safe. It solves nothing

i appreciate your opinion =) going a little overboard tho, as i just said something needs to be done. They have plenty of places to go to socialize on graal...like any building you can go inside thats not a base. did i say anything about No afk? im talking about start, that one area where everyone goes through...

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 05:08 PM

So you wish to take away a part of the game for over 50% of the players for your own personal gain? ;o also if that's made Pk no one will go there and just move. So invalid

K!LLA KEV 05-18-2012 05:11 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 118716)
So you wish to take away a part of the game for over 50% of the players for your own personal gain? ;o also if that's made Pk no one will go there and just move. So invalid

dude wtf are you talking about? my own personal gain? you look more and more like a troll each post you make. no need to try and make it personal with me. and not sure what you are talking about... actually no clue what you are talking about....

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 05:19 PM

Kai lenmie break down the problem in what you posted :)

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Posted by K!LLA KEV
4.) lastly, and this may be a little off topic, and even though Classic changed their graal city to Pk zone and then changed back to non-Pk, I think something needs to be done about all the AFK’ers @ start in era

What's wrong with afking?

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Posted by K!LLA KEV
it just causes lag and is pointless. People earning hours by just keeping game on and not even playing,

Afking doesn't cause that much lag. And you can easily go around start

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Posted by K!LLA KEV
Its also a breeding ground for scammers (even though if your scammed its caused by your own stupidity)

Not playing causes scamming?

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Posted by K!LLA KEV
admins may not want to do anything about this as they are concerned about player count and AFK does help player count, even though it’s a cheap way, hey…time is money.

Erm...

K!LLA KEV 05-18-2012 05:22 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 118720)
Kai lenmie break down the problem in what you posted :)



What's wrong with afking?



Afking doesn't cause that much lag. And you can easily go around start



Not playing causes scamming?



Erm...

You misunderstood....explain my own personal gain and how im trying to get that by making a thread about suggestions?...actually dont, I dont feel like bickering with you over nothing and dont really care.

and i said start is a breeding ground for scammers.... i didnt say AFK causes scams..derp.

David K? 05-18-2012 05:32 PM

I do not play Era or iEra, but I will try to answer this to the best of my knowledge.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 118692)
1.) I like how we are able to see the death count now by saying “showdeaths” out loud and then it pops up, but I think your deaths are as important as your kills are, and should be shown on your profile just like your kills are, maybe underneath your kills. This would lessen AFK (unless you really just don’t care about your deaths and stand around) and I would think would drive people to “try” a little harder, which would increase competition & would really show how good you are. (Unless of course you make your stats private which is sorta kinda noobish if you ask me…something to hide?)

The act of having shown deaths in profiles was actually taken off, since it has been in every Graal PC server that I know of.
To my knowledge, I believe I've been told that this small detail was taken off so that others were not humiliated by their deaths and would not stop playing, or so that they would not worry about deaths. This actually makes the game more fun for most, whereas a few others might feel it is taking away from 'being the best'.[/QUOTE]

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 118692)
2.) In regard to basing, It would be cool to see the amount of time a gang has held a base without losing, just like when we streak, consecutive time spent holding base would be nice to see as well, maybe in real time, like how you click on the name of the gang holding the base on the map and you see the gang news and gang pic, maybe see the time the base has been held as well, or on the gang scores in another section?

I honestly think this sounds like a neat idea, and that others may participate in base taking more often if this rule would be implemented. With the exception that this function can be turned on and off by the player, since others might find this detail very cluttering on their screen.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 118692)
3.) This may be more complicated but it would also be nice to see how many times we’ve killed a certain player and how many times they’ve killed you, etc. this may not be possible to see in the actual game, but a webpage like graalonline.com with updated statistics tied to your PC number would be cool for everyone to see too.

It is possible, easily, however since I've never done something like it, they might have to use a database, but I'm not sure. I know the act of finding out who killed who, and adding that to a variable would be easy and has been done. Whether they think this is worth looking into I don't know.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 118692)
4.) lastly, and this may be a little off topic, and even though Classic changed their graal city to Pk zone and then changed back to non-Pk, I think something needs to be done about all the AFK’ers @ start in era, it just causes lag and is pointless. People earning hours by just keeping game on and not even playing, Its also a breeding ground for scammers (even though if your scammed its caused by your own stupidity) admins may not want to do anything about this as they are concerned about player count and AFK does help player count, even though it’s a cheap way, hey…time is money.

You should not call people stupid, not everyone can comprehend situations like this, however I have no real comments on this situations.

If they were teleported to some random place after AFKing many people might be upset... But it isn't good to have lag in the main spots either...
Not sure exactly how this could be fixed. :[ I do not think they should take away being able to stay online while AFKing since many wouldn't play anymore if it were taken away. I know I wouldn't, and I don't AFK.

K!LLA KEV 05-18-2012 05:34 PM

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Posted by David K? (Post 118724)
You should not call people stupid, not everyone can comprehend situations like this, however I have no real comments on this situations. .

lol you know what they call people who cannot comprehend things right? lol =) ty for your post!

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 06:07 PM

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Posted by David K?
If they were teleported to some random place after AFKing many people might be upset... But it isn't good to have lag in the main spots either...
Not sure exactly how this could be fixed. :[ I do not think they should take away being able to stay online while AFKing since many wouldn't play anymore if it were taken away. I know I wouldn't, and I don't AFK.

you can die while afk. People dig up crabs and they kill you warping you to a hospital. You disconnect after not moving for a set amount of time to reduce lag. There is no true lag problem at all. He just like bickering with me on every thread <3

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Posted by K!LLA KEV

You misunderstood....explain my own personal gain

judging from your post you obviously have something against afkers and wish to make it pk to kill them. I only said its pointless as people would just go afk in another spot. No need to get hostile young apprentice :)

Engel 05-18-2012 06:15 PM

I don't like the idea of the safe zone at start being taken away.
First of all: there would grow such a spot somewhere else quickly.
Second: people who lose in events and get kicked, would be pked in no-time after they were warped there... And if they just made it so that you cant place gass or P4 or throw grenades, lag would be reduced enormously. (at start).

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 06:18 PM

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Posted by Engel
And if they just made it so that you cant place gass or P4 or throw grenades, lag would be reduced enormously. (at start).

This also proves my point further. It's not Afkers causing lag. It's people who are actively doing stuff on the level

David K? 05-18-2012 06:22 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 118739)
You disconnect after not moving for a set amount of time to reduce lag.

D: When did this change?
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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 118739)
He just like bickering with me on every thread <3

I see, that happens everywhere, sometimes it is best to ignore it if you can.
Eventually they will stop caring or stalking you.

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 118725)
lol you know what they call people who cannot comprehend things right? lol =) ty for your post!

Stupid is a derogative form to put others down...

Some players may be new and lacking experience.
Some players may be young and lacking the ability to analyze situations.
Some players may have disabilities causing them to never pick up on hints that they could be lead into a trap.

Most players have fit into at least one of the three categories previously mentioned, and I'm sure neither of them wish to be called stupid...

But if anything, it might be better to call players as such simpleminded... :drool:

Anyway, no problem, some of it can be done, some of it probably should
not be done. In all reality it all has to do with if you can give them a good
reason to do so... For the most part statements are suggested without
reasoning to back them up which would almost always be shot down...

BootySlayer 05-18-2012 06:23 PM

If people want to socialize they can do so at house/gang house or inside any building. If they're going to be AFK that long then maybe there should be some sort of punishment so they'll *gasp* turn the game off. Start is INCREDIBLY laggy (with both iPhone 4 and iPad 1st gen and no it's not my connection) so it does affect other players. I have to take the long way around to avoid the entire area. My two cents...

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 06:25 PM

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Posted by David K?
D: When did this change?

It's always been like this :)

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Posted by BootySlayer
If people want to socialize they can do so at house/gang house or inside any building. If they're going to be AFK that long then maybe there should be some sort of punishment so they'll *gasp* turn the game off. Start is INCREDIBLY laggy (with both iPhone 4 and iPad 1st gen and no it's not my connection) so it does affect other players. I have to take the long way around to avoid the entire area. My two cents...

It takes you 2 seconds more to go around below you know :3

David K? 05-18-2012 06:28 PM

I recall idling on iClassic my first few weeks before I decided to never idle again, and iEra I would only idle on lol... Are you sure? I cannot charge my ipod until I'm back in PA, I'd like to test this. o.o;; It would give me a message saying I've been disconnected, but you can press OK and still be online... Maybe this is only my experience...

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 06:29 PM

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Posted by David K?
I recall idling on iClassic my first few weeks before I decided to never idle again, and iEra I would only idle on lol... Are you sure? I cannot charge my ipod until I'm back in PA, I'd like to test this. o.o;; It would give me a message saying I've been disconnected, but you can press OK and still be online... Maybe this is only my experience...

Yea that's it. It disconnects you then reconnects lol. The disconnect in itself reduces lag (from what I'm told)

BootySlayer 05-18-2012 06:32 PM

Not two seconds... With lethal on one side and mafia on the other AND BH to the north. Guess I just don't understand the point of playing a game to remain stationary. Maybe just me...

David K? 05-18-2012 06:50 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 118753)
Yea that's it. It disconnects you then reconnects lol. The disconnect in itself reduces lag (from what I'm told)

I am so confused. :dazed:
If it makes sense to you, I'll accept it.. I guess lol

Unless it clears some sort of cache or something...
I need to ask a few people about that, interesting.

K!LLA KEV 05-18-2012 06:54 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 118739)
judging from your post you obviously have something against afkers and wish to make it pk to kill them. I only said its pointless as people would just go afk in another spot. No need to get hostile young apprentice :)

these are just suggestions, AFK all you want, i could care less, but it seems to be a big ol clutterfxck at start & laggy and , heres the difference, someone who socializes can socialize in any buidling other than a base...they have astros and cafes and restaurants etc. AFKers just turn the game on and do something else, they stand in start to be seen, i have no idea why other than to try and gain hours for whatever reason. WHY MUST THERE BE ONE SPOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP THAT EVERYONE JUST STANDS IN? WHY? its not necessary!

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 07:07 PM

Cuz I say

Peter5498 05-18-2012 07:17 PM

Start is just a big advertisement area.
If you don't like the lag, then just don't go to start.
If you have a problem with something, fix it.

snk 05-18-2012 07:23 PM

I like the idea of real time basing, easy to implement.
The other ideas didn't catch my attention :[

K!LLA KEV 05-18-2012 07:25 PM

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Posted by snk (Post 118775)
I like the idea of real time basing, easy to implement.
The other ideas didn't catch my attention :[

cool beans yo!

Billy 05-18-2012 10:02 PM

I'm with killa kev on this...I dissagree with afking,its a killing game just go offline if you're done playing.I'm getting tired of this,everyone sitting in start with high hours,low kills,all they do it chat.It really ruins the era theme,that's one thing I adore PC era about,half of the players don't afk and if they do,when they come back they go kill.What I'm trying to say is if you don't actually play the game then it's not the right game for you,move to classic.

@ Jester Actually for you it may not lag,but i know lots of people who have to walk all the way around start not to lag. Oh and you don't have to sit in a 'virtual' base all day but it's rather fun then sitting in a 'virtual' park all day not even playing.I somewhat do agree with you though,start should stay non-pk but we need to reduce afkers,maybe some new activities in-game perhaps to get them doing stuff?

Jester Lapse 05-18-2012 10:04 PM

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Posted by Billy
@ Jester Actually for you it may not lag,but i know lots of people who have to walk all the way around start not to lag. Oh and you don't have to sit in a 'virtual' base all day but it's rather fun then sitting in a 'virtual' park all day not even playing.I somewhat do agree with you though,start should stay non-pk but we need to reduce afkers,maybe some new activities in-game perhaps to get them doing stuff?

Refer to my thread "Laptop" in future improvements <3

K!LLA KEV 05-18-2012 10:14 PM

&& If Snk does implement the real time basing score/hour....maybe rewards/graalats for each hour bases are held without losing could be included or even broadcast it as a message like milestone kill streaks (50,100, etc) are when certain times are hit, which would bring more motivation to base & hold (other than just seeing the time held, which is still cool beans)

Billy 05-18-2012 10:17 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 118855)
Refer to my thread "Laptop" in future improvements <3

Just read it,good idea. :D

Ace 05-19-2012 01:35 AM

1.Yes 2.no 3.no 4.yes

K!LLA KEV 05-19-2012 03:30 PM

snk just added time stamp to bases, to see how long bases are held real time. MY IDEA from this thread. Ec?

Nvm, he took care of me :) thanks snk!


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