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Achelous 05-09-2012 10:56 PM

Minecraft Xbox Edition review
 
HEY THERE ITS ME AGAIN :D
As some of you xbox 360 players (like me) noticed that Minecraft was released for the xbox 360 on May 9 2012

Im planning on geting it as it looks SICK(in a good way):love::love:
Before i get it i want to know what you guys think of it!
I kinda feel bad for the psn players tho
anyways give me your review
Much appreiciated
Thanks :D

Maxy 05-09-2012 11:07 PM

its coming out on psn

Achelous 05-09-2012 11:08 PM

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Posted by Maxy (Post 113258)
its coming out on psn



wha :o

Maxy 05-09-2012 11:09 PM

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Posted by Blue (Post 113260)
wha :o

it's what I heard :P

iHawk 05-09-2012 11:25 PM

Can the Xbox edition connect to pc servers?:0

MrSimons 05-09-2012 11:48 PM

OMG YES!!! I am so damn excited!!!...except... I don't own an X-box....

Sammich 05-09-2012 11:58 PM

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Posted by iHawk (Post 113276)
Can the Xbox edition connect to pc servers?:0

Nope

spades of feare 05-10-2012 01:24 AM

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Posted by Maxy

it's what I heard :P

I was told it was XBLA ONLY.

John 05-10-2012 01:31 AM

This game is freaking crazy!

iHawk 05-10-2012 02:42 AM

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Posted by Sammich

Nope

DX that sucks.

Astram 05-10-2012 04:34 AM

I have the game and it sucks, we are stuck in 1.6.6, no mods, no anything. You need an HDTV in order to do splitscreen (wtf). Or you need to buy an HDMI Cable. I personally think that is the stupidest idea ever since you can already play it by yourself. The map borders are the size of one map (the item). 1000x1000 blocks, no further. You can't use a guest account either. However, it just "feels" nicer that playing on the PC. That's basically it, I wouldn't get it. Also, Notch announced that it is going to be Xbox360 only, no PSN involved. However, I can't quite remember where I've seen this statement. Overall, I'd rate Minecraft XBLA a 2/10, for lack of multiplayer (A scam), Small Map (Limited Gameplay), No mods will ever be on it (Announced by Notch), No PSN (Fail), Only 8 players per server (Huh?), the only upside is the swift and nice controls which makes Minecraft feel much better than on the PC. I would not get it, I'm trying to get myself a refund.

MrSimons 05-10-2012 04:46 AM

CaptainSparklez video about it made it look pretty good.

Achelous 05-10-2012 05:10 AM

First of all! The reason why it sucks is because it just came out today!

Probably in the future it will get a bunch of updates and will make it a bit more better!

They are doing what they did when they released pc version


And about it being released on the psn! It isnt! Notch said that the xbox is the soul console thingy magigy (forget the rest of it >_>)

LordBryson 05-10-2012 05:20 AM

I'd recommend just hooking up your Xbox/ps3 controller to your computer and the hooking your computer up to your tv and play like that. That's what I do XD

DragonRider 05-10-2012 05:24 AM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 113424)
CaptainSparklez video about it made it look pretty good.

He just gets paid to make it sound good. In the great words of /v/, 'Notch is a greedy jew."

Dusty 05-10-2012 05:56 AM

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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
I have the game and it sucks, we are stuck in 1.6.6, no mods, no anything.

The game had to be recoded from scratch. And I mean absolutely recoded. Minecraft is made in Java and of course, Java doesn't run Xbox. So the game had to be recoded to XNA. Not to mention currently Minecraft uses a seperate server/client foundation which wouldn't work with the Xbox. So the multiplayer aspect had to be completely reinvisioned and streamlined. Not to mention various other changes such as fixing the interface to better work with a controller and so on. Such a gap between the two versions was to be expected. The fact that they got as far as 1.6.6 is amazing, imo. Look at the mobile version, it's still stuck with pretty much ONLY creative mode... and the Android OS RUNS JAVA.
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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
You need an HDTV in order to do splitscreen (wtf). Or you need to buy an HDMI Cable. I personally think that is the stupidest idea ever since you can already play it by yourself.

Not really, it's for your own good. Without HD you're working with a resolution of 480 AT BEST. Split that and you're only working with 240 resolution. That would look horrible, and you probably wouldn't be able to properly see beyond five blocks in the distance.
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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
However, it just "feels" nicer that playing on the PC.

:) Ah, good ol' console gaming. Always feels better.
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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
Also, Notch announced that it is going to be Xbox360 only, no PSN involved. However, I can't quite remember where I've seen this statement.

This was announced when it was first announced, he signed a contract with Microsoft.
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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
or lack of multiplayer (A scam),

What? It DOES feature multiplayer, either 4 player splitscreen(isn't their problem you don't have an HDTV or 8 player online. It can't manage the multiplayer structure the PC version has because Xboxes can't handle that sort of workload. I also don't see how it's a scam as the multiplayer modes(1-8 players) were advertised.
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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
Small Map (Limited Gameplay),

This does suck regardless. I hated it on the mobile system, too. I wish they could figure out a way to work it out. The problem again is that the 360's hardware probably just couldn't do all the crunching involved in generating chunks on the fly. Not to mention that world sizes can get quite large(they probably don't want people filling up their HDD's. Even a casually explored world can hit a few GBs.)
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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
No mods will ever be on it (Announced by Notch),

Not surprising. Not even PC has actual mods, they're just "hacks" and not officially supported in any way.
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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
No PSN (Fail),

Chances are Microsoft approached them with the contract. Exclusive titles are nothing new.
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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
Only 8 players per server (Huh?),

I addressed this above.

I don't have the game, but these problems seem pretty obvious. Most of them are outside of anyones current control, and I feel people should let up. Now the mobile version of Minecraft SUCKS ASS. I wouldn't suggest it even for $6. It is WAY more behind than the 360 version, and the controls suck ass and the world is insanely small. The fact that this version was completely redone by scratch in insanely small portion of time compared to how long Minecraft was(and still is) in development I find amazing. Perhaps they will catch up and Minecraft itself will port over to the code base of the 360 version and we can finally move away from ****ing Java.

This version may be lacking compared to the PC version, but it will probably catch up soon enough(way before the mobile version ever does :P) and it's a GREAT way to expose Minecraft to an entirely different playerbase. There is an entirely different group of people out there who play consoles exclusively and never touched a game on the PC, so they'd probably never play Minecraft if it weren't for this version. Also this is a great way to get family/friends involved too without overwhelming them.

{L*}(SKorpionz) 05-10-2012 06:18 PM

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Posted by Toad (Post 113416)
I have the game and it sucks, we are stuck in 1.6.6, no mods, no anything. You need an HDTV in order to do splitscreen (wtf). Or you need to buy an HDMI Cable. I personally think that is the stupidest idea ever since you can already play it by yourself. The map borders are the size of one map (the item). 1000x1000 blocks, no further. You can't use a guest account either. However, it just "feels" nicer that playing on the PC. That's basically it, I wouldn't get it. Also, Notch announced that it is going to be Xbox360 only, no PSN involved. However, I can't quite remember where I've seen this statement. Overall, I'd rate Minecraft XBLA a 2/10, for lack of multiplayer (A scam), Small Map (Limited Gameplay), No mods will ever be on it (Announced by Notch), No PSN (Fail), Only 8 players per server (Huh?), the only upside is the swift and nice controls which makes Minecraft feel much better than on the PC. I would not get it, I'm trying to get myself a refund.

:0

spades of feare 05-10-2012 09:37 PM

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Posted by Toad
I have the game and it sucks, we are stuck in 1.6.6, no mods, no anything. You need an HDTV in order to do splitscreen (wtf). Or you need to buy an HDMI Cable. I personally think that is the stupidest idea ever since you can already play it by yourself. The map borders are the size of one map (the item). 1000x1000 blocks, no further. You can't use a guest account either. However, it just "feels" nicer that playing on the PC. That's basically it, I wouldn't get it. Also, Notch announced that it is going to be Xbox360 only, no PSN involved. However, I can't quite remember where I've seen this statement. Overall, I'd rate Minecraft XBLA a 2/10, for lack of multiplayer (A scam), Small Map (Limited Gameplay), No mods will ever be on it (Announced by Notch), No PSN (Fail), Only 8 players per server (Huh?), the only upside is the swift and nice controls which makes Minecraft feel much better than on the PC. I would not get it, I'm trying to get myself a refund.

Consoles dont have the RAM to infigenerate a map and the gameplay had to be completely recoded into C++ from java and they started it when 1.6 was released. So shut up. Like normal minecraft it will have updates and all the other features you ignorant idiot. It will be updated. Incase you didnt see the panel on the main menu saying " downloadable content" and what is such a huge deal about split screen? The online multiplayer is flawless and never lags. Im glad its staying XBL only. How are exlusive games a fail? And i seriously dbout anybody will ever need over 8 players at a time. The most ive had was 6 with 0 lag. Also, it states no refunds on every purchase, without even scrolling, good luck.

My only complaint is. That the night is wayyy to dark. Was smooth lighting defaulted before or after 1.6?

Also props to dusty for retaliating even better than i did.

I am bummed at no mods but maybe a. Online petition for mod devs to be able to submit them as DLC to XBLAMC. Serriously enough people can make anything happen. And mc has a HUGEE fanbase. The mass effect ending was changed with 500,000 people? Couldnt take much to just alow mods?

Astram 05-11-2012 01:12 AM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 113718)
Consoles dont have the RAM to infigenerate a map and the gameplay had to be completely recoded into C++ from java and they started it when 1.6 was released. So shut up. Like normal minecraft it will have updates and all the other features you ignorant idiot. It will be updated. Incase you didnt see the panel on the main menu saying " downloadable content" and what is such a huge deal about split screen? The online multiplayer is flawless and never lags. Im glad its staying XBL only. How are exlusive games a fail? And i seriously dbout anybody will ever need over 8 players at a time. The most ive had was 6 with 0 lag. Also, it states no refunds on every purchase, without even scrolling, good luck.

My only complaint is. That the night is wayyy to dark. Was smooth lighting defaulted before or after 1.6?

Also props to dusty for retaliating even better than i did.

I am bummed at no mods but maybe a. Online petition for mod devs to be able to submit them as DLC to XBLAMC. Serriously enough people can make anything happen. And mc has a HUGEE fanbase. The mass effect ending was changed with 500,000 people? Couldnt take much to just alow mods?

Don't you think I know all this? I am not saying I absolutely hate it, I actually enjoy it a bit. But I just wrote a review on the facts, so theres no point in being rude by these comments: "you ignorant idiot" Plus, read the Minecraft Forums under the Xbox 360 gameplay edition I just added a bunch of other people's ideas too. So really, you don't need to be rude.

spades of feare 05-11-2012 02:14 AM

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Posted by Toad

Don't you think I know all this? I am not saying I absolutely hate it, I actually enjoy it a bit. But I just wrote a review on the facts, so theres no point in being rude by these comments: "you ignorant idiot" Plus, read the Minecraft Forums under the Xbox 360 gameplay edition I just added a bunch of other people's ideas too. So really, you don't need to be rude.

Sorry, three finals today. My appologies. But i will give it alot of credit. But you can do alot with a 1000x1000 grid

Astram 05-11-2012 04:04 AM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 113850)
Sorry, three finals today. My appologies. But i will give it alot of credit. But you can do alot with a 1000x1000 grid

I do agree :)

Loki Adoot 05-11-2012 04:42 AM

:love:Ohhhhh yes.
Just today I found out it was out!
I played the trial and; POOF I was absolutley in love.
I'll bebuying it soon, aswell! :D

I am so, so, so excited.



And good-job to Notch, and the rest of the employes from starting as a small Indie game, onto becoming Microsoft-Owned game! :D

THANKS, NOTCH!!

Achelous 05-13-2012 05:00 AM

So this game as pros and cons

Everygame has that!
The only problem i have with it is that you get killed to easily :/ and The lighting problem

oh btw did anyone notice that if u get a bucket of water and you place it on a piece of land it will disapear :/

spades of feare 05-13-2012 03:44 PM

Thats a temp glitch. Also the nether is very glitchy. I recomend building your portal in a room or inside a cave.

John 05-13-2012 08:46 PM

Yeah spades I built my portal and when I stepped in I fell in the lava. -_-

spades of feare 05-13-2012 11:32 PM

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Posted by John J Johnson
Yeah spades I built my portal and when I stepped in I fell in the lava. -_-

I cant determine where youll spawn in the nether, mine appears to be working. Wanna hang. On my server? I need more cobble miners for my castle. And a professional sheep shearer for the woll to decor it.

Dusty 05-14-2012 12:09 AM

Lack of analog control for camera movement is embarrassing. For shame developers, for shame.

spades of feare 05-14-2012 12:12 AM

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Posted by Dusty
Lack of analog control for camera movement is embarrassing. For shame developers, for shame.

Minecraft really isnt for 3rd person. The camera movement seems to be the same though.

Dusty 05-14-2012 12:22 AM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 115636)
Minecraft really isnt for 3rd person. The camera movement seems to be the same though.

You do realize first person perspective has a camera too, right? It's just lodged in the player's face. The point is that when I use my analog stick the game either moves the camera at a set speed, or it doesn't. That sucks and there's a reason that every FPS since 2000 has had analog control. Lack of analog makes movement feel stiff and slow. You can crank up the sensitivity but then you lose precision.

It's a ****ing horrible oversight on the devs part.

Achelous 05-14-2012 06:23 AM

I find the control fine!


I just played with my sensitivity a bit!

Dusty 05-14-2012 07:17 AM

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Posted by Blue (Post 115879)
I find the control fine!


I just played with my sensitivity a bit!

If they ever implement proper analog support, you'll see just how horrible it is in its current state. Analog gives you control based on how far you tilt the control stick. Tilt it a little and you move a little, tilt it all the way and it moves faster. This gives players precise control when needed, yet lets you turn fast, and even whip around instantly if needed(instead of slooooooowly turning around).

The method they have now is primitive, and honestly just bad design.

Dusty 05-14-2012 11:25 PM

Played today and finally made some solid progress, got lots of coal and iron to start off with. Saved and quit and it crashed my entire Xbox while it was saving. Lost my progress.

This is stuff I tolerated while Minecraft was in Alpha and Beta, but this **** shouldn't happen when it's launched as a title on Xbox.

spades of feare 05-14-2012 11:53 PM

I have an obsidian castle. Enough said. Approx 3300 blocks used

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Posted by Dusty
Played today and finally made some solid progress, got lots of coal and iron to start off with. Saved and quit and it crashed my entire Xbox while it was saving. Lost my progress.

This is stuff I tolerated while Minecraft was in Alpha and Beta, but this **** shouldn't happen when it's launched as a title on Xbox.

I always save by itself and then exit without save.

Dusty 05-15-2012 01:13 AM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 116313)
I always save by itself and then exit without save.

Apparently that's the way to go, but this is really inexcusable. If they have a feature to save and quit then it should ****ing work.

MattKan 05-15-2012 01:29 AM

They should recode Minecraft PC into whatever this is so the two games can play on the same servers

spades of feare 05-15-2012 04:00 PM

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Posted by Dusty
Apparently that's the way to go, but this is really inexcusable. If they have a feature to save and quit then it should ****ing work.

Its the first version. Bugs with a complicated save sytem are understandable. But the liquid glitch.... Its.... Annoying....

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Posted by MattKan
They should recode Minecraft PC into whatever this is so the two games can play on the same servers

Coding levels: in order of difficulty for a 3d game.
1.)adobe
2.)java(pc minecraft)
3.) C
4.) C+
5.)C++
6.)C-sharp(xbox games)

Any coding languages harder than csharp?

Chaotic 05-15-2012 04:03 PM

I don't like the blur when I look around.
Also, I feel it turns too slow, then when I crank up the sensitivity, it's fast like on PC but uncontrollable and not very precise.

Dusty 05-15-2012 04:47 PM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 116672)
Its the first version. Bugs with a complicated save sytem are understandable. But the liquid glitch.... Its.... Annoying....

No, this is a major, major bug. No player should ever have to worry about lost data due to bugs. That should have been crushed before it was released. This attitude where devs treat post-release as a beta trial is wrong. Have a beta period, smash the bugs, then release a game where players don't have to worry about that crap.

I theoretically paid $20 for the game. I shouldn't have to worry about losing hours of progress every time I quit the game. I didn't pay to be a beta tester(especially since it's not advertised as such, like Minecraft was when it was being sold in alpha/beta phase).

If this were to happen with any other game that you bought from a store, would it be just as easily shrugged aside? I doubt it. I think players are sort of blinded by Minecraft's weird climb to fame where they got so used to playing Alpha/Beta that they think this sort of thing is okay. I had the same feeling when Minecraft went "full" yet was still so chalk full of bugs. Hell, Minecraft PC is STILL full of an amazing amount of bugs, yet it people seem to just ignore them... but any other game with a bug list as long as Minecraft? Think it'd fair so well? Doubt it. This is just my opinion on a sort of different subject, that I wish players would open their eyes and realize that once a game is advertised as a full product(more importantly, being sold at full price), this whole "it's a bug expect it to be fixed in the future" **** shouldn't be tolerated.

spades of feare 05-15-2012 08:38 PM

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Posted by Chaotic
I don't like the blur when I look around.
Also, I feel it turns too slow, then when I crank up the sensitivity, it's fast like on PC but uncontrollable and not very precise.

Try it at about 120-125% sensit. Seems to be perfect

Dusty 05-15-2012 08:39 PM

Perfect would be analog :P


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