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Rok 04-02-2012 11:01 PM

Era's Economy
 
This is a topic that bugs me.

People say we have some sort of economy. True, inflation in iEra DOES exist. (The M4 has increased in price from $0 -> $45,000 just as one example) But there is no reason for inflation to exist other than for the profitees of the game to make more money. We, as players, have the same average income we had when the game was released. Also, the demand may rise and fall, but the supply is unlimited, so there is no need for price fluctuations there either. What would create an economy is if we were allowed to legitimately trade items for money, making the items limited, which makes them affected by supply and demand, which would cause price fluctuations. But we aren't allowed to trade items for money. Why? Because it would "effect the economy," the one that we don't even have. To me, that makes little to no sense. People use our "economy" as an excuse to stop the implementation of things that would negatively effect their income. Oh no, they're making a little bit less than they used to, that's life.

Feel free to say your opinions on this topic. I only bring this up for discussion because it has begun to bother me more and more.

tl;dr Era doesn't have a real economy. The reason behind the inflated prices is so the people who profit from the game can make more money.

This post is very much opinion-based. I am not stating that I know my assumptions are 100% correct, nor is that what I'm intending to state.

Discuss :)

HomoPanda 04-02-2012 11:05 PM

There have been multiple threads about era's economy...lets just move along.

Frederick 04-02-2012 11:06 PM

If you suggest making weapons, bombs, and much other stuff limited, making the shops owned by players, so we have to stock stuff, trade system, and much more. I totally +rep you for making this thread. Screw our economy. GraalOnline Greece, here we come!

Jatz 04-03-2012 12:41 AM

The price of the m4 was raised because its stats were raised also, just sayin'

LordBryson 04-03-2012 12:55 AM

The m16 got worse and the price was still raised

John 04-03-2012 01:13 AM

At the time the m16 was the best gun in era, until the bar came out but I don't understand why they lowered the stats and raised the price.

Talon 04-03-2012 04:51 AM

+Rep, I agree with a lot of these statements.

Rok 04-03-2012 01:35 PM

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Posted by HomoPanda (Post 88775)
There have been multiple threads about era's economy...lets just move along.

Ya, I know. But none of them really backed it up so well. :P

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Posted by Jatz (Post 88841)
The price of the m4 was raised because its stats were raised also, just sayin'

The Famas price also was increased, and I'm pretty sure it's worse than it was when it was released. I just used the M4 as an example because many of the readers know about it. There are many other examples I could've used.

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Posted by Agony (Post 88994)
+Rep, I agree with a lot of these statements.

Thanks :) I tried to stay realistic, and a lot of it is assumptions. But they're backed by facts.

XENA* 04-03-2012 02:32 PM

Isn't the M4 55 000$?

Elusive 04-03-2012 02:42 PM

Multiple Thread..
Ignore

Ace 04-03-2012 03:46 PM

well you have to balance the guns out.
Let's just be happy the GAs are working hard :P

Talon 04-04-2012 06:06 AM

Isn't Bboy the only GA?

Froggy Krueger 04-05-2012 02:53 AM

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Posted by Agony (Post 89637)
Isn't Bboy the only GA?

No, he's not a GA

Higbey 04-05-2012 03:27 AM

this is proof of stefan and unixmads greed, them not letting a trade system be added, snk would love to add one im sure, it would be so easy, but you know why its not added? STEFAN DOESNT WANT IT BECAUSE IT WILL LOWER GRALAT PACK SALES! so stupid. same reason we cant refund guns,

honestly, stefan may have made alot of this game, but he and unixmad are doing a bloody horrible ****ty job at running it, the potential of the game is being held back by their greed, and we all know it, there is no economy, and i honestly wish staff had the balls to just buck up and tell us the truth, stefan wont let them.

Infernus Lapse 04-05-2012 03:54 AM

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Posted by Froggy Krueger (Post 90070)
No, he's not a GA

Yes he is. You didnt know that?

aya 04-05-2012 06:13 AM

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Posted by infernus250 (Post 90092)
Yes he is. You didnt know that?

He's not a GA.

NCJohn 04-05-2012 07:11 AM

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Posted by aya (Post 90139)
He's not a GA.

That's right cause he's a BA. Eh? Eh? You see what I did there?

Marker 04-05-2012 07:40 AM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 90151)
That's right cause he's a BA. Eh? Eh? You see what I did there?

Bacon Admin?

Shock 04-05-2012 01:48 PM

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Posted by aya (Post 90139)
He's not a GA.

I'm 99.999999999% sure he's the Gun Admin (GA).

Rok 04-05-2012 01:55 PM

Last time I saw him, he was on (Guns Admin) tag. I don't know if he's a legitimate GA though...he could've just /settag

Higbey 04-05-2012 04:28 PM

off topic

BboyEatsbacon 04-05-2012 04:32 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 90233)
Last time I saw him, he was on (Guns Admin) tag. I don't know if he's a legitimate GA though...he could've just /settag

I was the Guns Administrator for about a month or so.

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Posted by Marker (Post 90169)
Bacon Admin?

It was either Bacon Admin or Bad a**. ;D

Higbey 04-05-2012 04:34 PM

please this is not a topic of what bboys position is, its on the "economy" which is nonexistant.

Emera 04-05-2012 04:44 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 90305)
I was the Guns Administrator for about a month or so.



It was either Bacon Admin or Bad a**. ;D

After burning himself on the pan while trying to make bacon (or baconz?) they had no choice but to let him go.

KeN(Best) 04-05-2012 07:11 PM

*bump*

romario786 04-05-2012 11:31 PM

well i bought my M4 for 4k when it first came out which was cheap, but i totally agree guns prices are a bit over priced tbh

Sephiroth_Ren 04-06-2012 12:11 AM

I agree with most of the posts

Higbey 04-06-2012 12:55 AM

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Posted by Sephiroth_Ren (Post 90527)
I agree with most of the posts

thanks for contributing absolutly nothing to this thread.

Rok 04-06-2012 02:50 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 90306)
please this is not a topic of what bboys position is, its on the "economy" which is nonexistant.

Yes yes. Let's focus people. If you wanna talk about BBOY's changes in positions please create a new thread.

If you have something to contribute, that deals with the thread topic, then say it. If not, don't.

Simple :)

Ozzy_Magus 04-06-2012 06:50 PM

Right there is no economy on era...
I've asked many times about why,etc...always the same"we can make one,but we need stefan's approval".Also when stefan was on iclassic i was talking with him about levels,and after that i asked why he won't add a item trade system to iera,*/stealth* and that was his answer lawl...
I find that really lame,because there are more GOOD reason to add one,than there are bad reasons.
I got all my stuff from events etc..(mostly the old 16man spar),and since im not one of these 10 years old kids stealin' their parents Ccard to buy Gpacks honestly i wouldn't have bought more than the m4 i have.A trade system would offer some fairness on how to get your items etc...
Also the gameplay is ruined by the Gpacks unlike pc era where the only way to make cash is to do jobs,they all work hard(its hard to get cash on pc when you start as a newbie)but well this will not change.My wish is add a trade system+gpacks removed.
-I guess this is my opinion so...

BboyEatsbacon 04-06-2012 07:01 PM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 90496)
well i bought my M4 for 4k when it first came out which was cheap, but i totally agree guns prices are a bit over priced tbh

When it first came out, it was attainable only by killing crabs. It was later introduced to Shops and taken from Crab Loots.

Rok 04-07-2012 09:06 PM

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 90984)
Also the gameplay is ruined by the Gpacks unlike pc era where the only way to make cash is to do jobs,they all work hard(its hard to get cash on pc when you start as a newbie)but well this will not change. My wish is add a trade system+gpacks removed.

I agree but that'll never happen. That's the main source of their income. That's like asking WoW to get rid of subscriptions. Lol, random example.

Ozzy_Magus 04-09-2012 01:05 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 91734)
I agree but that'll never happen. That's the main source of their income. That's like asking WoW to get rid of subscriptions. Lol, random example.

Another reason i like era pc more,seriously we have over 1k players...a trade system wouldn't do anything bad.People who have lots of cash,will still buy gpacks to have ALL the guns before everyone(shops,auctions)<-this will not change...also idk how much cash era already made but when i hear that a single player bought over 300 packs...im like eh...
Whatever,im not buying a single overpriced **** anymore.Gonna stick with what i have nd thx to the old events lawl.
Idk how our"economy" is gonna evolve.
Rich ppl get everything,that's how it is right now.

Rok 04-09-2012 03:11 PM

@ozzy

Era will pretty much stay the same way it is now. Kids will buy packs to get what they want, and the poor will be left with nothing. A scam-free trade system would only evolve the game, make it better. I guess were just stuck here, and no one that can fix it wants to fix it. As long as they're making money, they're happy. Even if the disgruntled players left, more would come to take their place. There are many successful games that have trade systems. I think the least we could do is give it a shot.


This isn't PC Era, and will never be PC Era, so you can't say that we don't deserve a shot at a trade system just because the PC Era players misuse it. That isn't fair at all.

NinjAssassin 04-09-2012 04:56 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 92826)
@ozzy

Era will pretty much stay the same way it is now. Kids will buy packs to get what they want, and the poor will be left with nothing. A scam-free trade system would only evolve the game, make it better. I guess were just stuck here, and no one that can fix it wants to fix it. As long as they're making money, they're happy. Even if the disgruntled players left, more would come to take their place. There are many successful games that have trade systems. I think the least we could do is give it a shot.


This isn't PC Era, and will never be PC Era, so you can't say that we don't deserve a shot at a trade system just because the PC Era players misuse it. That isn't fair at all.

Agreed

Ozzy_Magus 04-09-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rok (Post 92826)
@ozzy

Era will pretty much stay the same way it is now. Kids will buy packs to get what they want, and the poor will be left with nothing. A scam-free trade system would only evolve the game, make it better. I guess were just stuck here, and no one that can fix it wants to fix it. As long as they're making money, they're happy. Even if the disgruntled players left, more would come to take their place. There are many successful games that have trade systems. I think the least we could do is give it a shot.


This isn't PC Era, and will never be PC Era, so you can't say that we don't deserve a shot at a trade system just because the PC Era players misuse it. That isn't fair at all.


Not what i wanted to say,i want iera to have a trade system.But sadly it isn't gonna happen,and like i said there are tons of people buying packs,getting everything that way, theres no need to go work your ass off digging if the others will have stuff when they come out and just spam the bid button(auctions)...also i agree a trade system would cut the scam.You,me and all the others know they don't want one,just because the game already generates much cash,and that the very high staff(stefan nd such(unixmad))need to make cash.A trade system would make everyone happy,but not stefan etc...
Also we have unlimited supply of **** in the shops so nothing is RARE.
Theres still alot of things to change before adding a trade system...
I 100% agree with everything you said in this thread,hope to see other peoples opinion.

Sephiroth_Ren 04-09-2012 06:19 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 90545)
thanks for contributing absolutly nothing to this thread.

Thanks for being a complete jerk :) it was 1 am for me an di was ired. Just go back to classic kk

Higbey 04-09-2012 06:31 PM

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Posted by Sephiroth_Ren

Thanks for being a complete jerk :) it was 1 am for me an di was ired. Just go back to classic kk

Being "ired" (tired I'm guessing) doesnt mean you can make posts that offer absolutely nothing to the thread. Now to get back on topic of the thread..

Sephiroth_Ren 04-09-2012 06:46 PM

I gave my 2 cents at the time. You dont like it? Go back to being a noob admin on classic kthnxbai

SkyLapse 04-09-2012 10:31 PM

i agree with everything you said, but i would like the limited suppy idea, where players have shop and can trade katanas:)


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