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MSM 04-01-2012 07:46 PM

Hiring A GFX Artist for Cernox!
 
Hello! Im the Co-Manager of a new PC server, Cernox. We need a talented GFX Artist to help make a tileset.

Go to: Cernox.tk to find the application form. Thanks!



DEADLINE: April 21st, 2012

Ace 04-01-2012 08:48 PM

I WANT TO BE ADIAM

callimuc 04-01-2012 08:49 PM

Would you bother to give us more information about your new server?

MSM 04-01-2012 08:51 PM

Well, we are 100% percent sure we are buying it, but we cant really do anything unless we have a tileset.

Cigam 04-01-2012 11:26 PM

Even if I did want to apply, I sadly don't have gold.

callimuc 04-01-2012 11:31 PM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 88184)
Well, we are 100% percent sure we are buying it, but we cant really do anything unless we have a tileset.

So you donīt have the server yet? And you should plan what you want to do and what you want to reach before you are even going to buy it. And than you can worry about the tileset. Just a little tip since a lot of servers are going nowhere because the owners just donīt know what they actually want to do.

MSM 04-02-2012 01:19 AM

We Know what we are doing. We are buying the server in about 1 month from now. We know how to run a server, considering we've worked for other in the past.

Dylan 04-02-2012 01:43 AM

A tileset is alot of work, I highly doubt someone would make you one for free...
If you are in desperate need of a tileset check out the free graphics thread on the official forums..

MSM 04-02-2012 02:15 AM

Ya but think about it. The people who made era tileset are are GFX Artists, and they didn't get paid. Think about it. And btw, they are only helping make it, i started it already a bit.

Cigam 04-02-2012 02:17 AM

Show us what you got so far please MSM.

Crest 04-02-2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Posted by MSM Graal (Post 88302)
We Know what we are doing. We are buying the server in about 1 month from now. We know how to run a server, considering we've worked for other in the past.

Who's the manager?

Dylan 04-02-2012 02:30 AM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 88333)
Ya but think about it. The people who made era tileset are are GFX Artists, and they didn't get paid. Think about it. And btw, they are only helping make it, i started it already a bit.

Face it your server is most likely going to fail.. You haven't provided enough information about your server.. Who works there? What style of server is it?
What does the tileset need to look like?
Some images of what you have done so far would be nice also..
I can create some tiles, just shoot me a pm.

callimuc 04-02-2012 03:45 AM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 88333)
Ya but think about it. The people who made era tileset are are GFX Artists, and they didn't get paid. Think about it. And btw, they are only helping make it, i started it already a bit.

You cant compare that. Era is like 8 years old already and they also donīt have a full tileset yet. Itīs rather based on NPCs.
If you start like that you wont get far.

Also you still did not tell us what your server is about. And now dont say it will be like iEra, Zodiac, .... . Give us exact explanations and what you really want to do. How should people know if they are even interested?

This should help you for further hiring threads
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134261109
MattKan did create a very well made hiring thread aswell (besides the pictures)
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2198

MSM 04-02-2012 08:23 PM

lol. sorry. So the server is a futuristic server, but not like zone at all. Its looked at from a perspective. Like say from 1990-2012, nothing really changed, right? Its like that. Everything changed, but not so major that its a huge difference.

DarkKnight 04-03-2012 04:12 AM

Apparently MSM is the Co-Manager, Dev Admin, And Jr. LAT Admin. What a guy, holding three positions!

Skyzer 04-03-2012 11:23 AM

What the heck is a "Jr LAT Admin?"

callimuc 04-03-2012 03:21 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 89116)
What the heck is a "Jr LAT Admin?"

An invented staff position just like "Co-Owner".. either you own it or you dont. But this seems like something between a "Trial LAT Admin" (lol) and a "LAT Admin".

Tizzee 04-03-2012 03:22 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 89116)
What the heck is a "Jr LAT Admin?"

if you cant find a Lat for your server, and just started level creating
youre a jr lat admin, because your the only LAT

MSM 04-03-2012 10:11 PM

Lol.

Im just all those for now, untill we find others to be hired.

Chaotic 04-03-2012 10:29 PM

Ill be jr gp asst chief manager captain

MattKan 04-03-2012 10:55 PM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 89444)
Ill be jr gp asst chief manager captain

I'm co-jr gp asst chief manager captain admin.

File up with the rest of them.

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 88953)
Apparently MSM is the Co-Manager, Dev Admin, And Jr. LAT Admin. What a guy, holding three positions!

Who is the other co-manager?

MSM 04-03-2012 11:09 PM

Lol. Im only Co-Manager, LAT, and Gani. Sheesh.

Cigam 04-03-2012 11:12 PM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 89457)
Lol. Im only Co-Manager, LAT, and Gani. Sheesh.

May we see the tileset so far please?

MSM 04-03-2012 11:16 PM

No.

Cigam 04-03-2012 11:33 PM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 89464)
No.

Ok... I'm not gonna ask why.

Chaotic 04-04-2012 04:16 AM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 89464)
No.

No, as in you won't show it yet or there isn't one yet?

Maxy 04-04-2012 03:50 PM

Hm no offense but we kinda need to see the tile set so far to do anything...

Skyzer 04-04-2012 05:07 PM

The way I see it, it's a title to make people feel special when in reality they don't have any more rights than any other LAT.

MSM 04-04-2012 09:37 PM

Here
 
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Wow. Im just not showing it because we arent done with it. But ill add some tiles we made i guess we just started it.

Heres some tiles that i tried making :p i know im not the best

Skyzer 04-04-2012 10:46 PM

How much did you pay for MSPaint?

MattKan 04-04-2012 11:06 PM

Quote:

Posted by MSM Graal (Post 89457)
Lol. Im only Co-Manager, LAT, and Gani. Sheesh.

Who is the other Co-Manager?

Cigam 04-04-2012 11:16 PM

Quote:

Posted by MSM Graal (Post 89862)
Wow. Im just not showing it because we arent done with it. But ill add some tiles we made i guess we just started it.

Heres some tiles that i tried making :p i know im not the best

Are those for the floor or wha...?

callimuc 04-04-2012 11:52 PM

I think I can predict the future

Chaotic 04-05-2012 03:26 AM

The server name reminds me of a reproductive organ

MSM 04-05-2012 02:05 PM

lol? well we are now 101% sure we are buying the server in a few weeks.

David K? 04-08-2012 02:32 PM

Most likely you will not read this, but here goes.

Listen, I am not trying to ruin your dreams, but I want to be honest with what a lot of people aren't telling you. And I will give you some examples as well of course...

It is pretty fun toying with servers, playing with staff tools, and even developing, however most people who pay for servers (which I feel is a great waste of money) quit after 4-6 weeks. Some people get even more dedicated and may even last about 6 months.

I don't know the exact statistics so these are off the top of my head..

It is VERY hard finding the right people to help you, and if you give just anyone rights to everything on the server, you can expect someone to ruin it purposefully or accidentally. I.e.: Deleting all your files, replacing a level by accident, or wiping everything for enjoyment.

Thor has been developing Classic for 5+ years, and he is an amazing programmer. He has paid someone to create a logo for the server, and has a few other great team members. His server isn't even hosted... (He also does not want it to be until it is completed)

After coming back a years ago I've worked on petty servers like Dev Twaina, Dev Astram, and finally Frontier, someone else who is a pretty good programmer and has been doing everything him self for almost two years... (he stopped the project) and as far as I know, the other two servers are gone.

I'm not telling you to not develop, nor saying you can't do it, but the odds are against all new servers, and it IS a waste of money. Think about it before you go into this MSM.

You might think that I'm against you or something, but I'm really trying to get you to look at the big picture... I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but most servers don't get anywhere, you will probably feel overcome with work needed to be done, and stop developing for it in a few months. Save your money..

Aeon and Maloriam both good looking servers, have gone hosted and classic, respectively, and they aren't on the hosted or classic tab any longer.. There really isn't much chance unless you happen to come into a lot of old things to use...

Elusive 04-08-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Posted by David K? (Post 92141)
Listen, I am not trying to ruin your dreams, but I want to be honest with what a lot of people aren't telling you. And I will give you some examples as well of course...

It is pretty fun toying with servers, playing with staff tools, and even developing, however most people who pay for servers (which I feel is a great waste of money) quit after 4-6 weeks. Some people get even more dedicated and may even last about 6 months.

I don't know the exact statistics so these are off the top of my head..

It is VERY hard finding the right people to help you, and if you give just anyone rights to everything on the server, you can expect someone to ruin it purposefully or accidentally. I.e.: Deleting all your files, replacing a level by accident, or wiping everything for enjoyment.

Thor has been developing Classic for 5+ years, and he is an amazing programmer. He has paid someone to create a logo for the server, and has a few other great team members. His server isn't even hosted... (He also does not want it to be until it is completed)

After coming back a years ago I've worked on petty servers like Dev Twaina, Dev Astram, and finally Frontier, someone else who is a pretty good programmer and has been doing everything him self for almost two years... (he stopped the project) and as far as I know, the other two servers are gone.

I'm not telling you to not develop, nor saying you can't do it, but the odds are against all new servers, and it IS a waste of money. Think about it before you go into this MSM.

You might think that I'm against you or something, but I'm really trying to get you to look at the big picture... I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but most servers don't get anywhere, you will probably feel overcome with work needed to be done, and stop developing for it in a few months. Save your money..

This ultimately describes how it is no walk in the park developing and maintaining an un-hosted server. Fair call. +rep<3

Skyzer 04-09-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Posted by David K? (Post 92141)
Thor has been developing Classic for 5+ years, and he is an amazing programmer. He has paid someone to create a logo for the server, and has a few other great team members. His server isn't even hosted... (He also does not want it to be until it is completed)

You're stupid. Thor's Classic is two years old, not five. The server will most likely never be completed. We want enough content to hold a player count before we go Classic, not Hosted.

Quote:

Posted by David K? (Post 92141)
Aeon and Maloriam both good looking servers, have gone hosted and classic, respectively, and they aren't on the hosted or classic tab any longer.. There really isn't much chance unless you happen to come into a lot of old things to use...

AEON and Maloria don't have enough content to be on Classic. AEON will probably never be anywhere close to going Classic because it is essentially four servers.

David K? 04-09-2012 09:50 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 92877)
You're stupid. Thor's Classic is two years old, not five. The server will most likely never be completed. We want enough content to hold a player count before we go Classic, not Hosted.

I don't recall saying he wanted to go hosted, only that he was not hosted, and I'm almost sure he told me five to six. o.O

Quote:

Posted by Skyzer (Post 92877)
AEON and Maloria don't have enough content to be on Classic. AEON will probably never be anywhere close to going Classic because it is essentially four servers.

Maloria WAS classic.. for about a week lol...
Aeon I thought was killed...

^- These are the points I'm trying to make. Mal looked pretty good, but didn't have anything of interest.. I didn't even know what to do.. that and it lagged for me. :/ ...

Who owned Mal anyway?

MattKan 04-09-2012 09:55 PM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 90080)
The server name reminds me of a reproductive organ

Again, the name is even worse than Stroseria.

David K? 04-10-2012 01:21 AM

Quote:

Posted by MattKan (Post 92986)
Again, the name is even worse than Stroseria.

Besides this is pretty mean, this has reminded me of an idea..
Thanks!

Shukie 04-10-2012 03:25 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 89906)
How much did you pay for MSPaint?

I may have just died of laughter.

MSM 04-15-2012 10:00 PM

Lolollololol Shukie.

So David, I see what you mean. I know, it will never be the greatest server of all time. But we have really talented people that are skilled in the areas they are working in. The server will just be a fun thing to do.

Elusive 04-15-2012 10:15 PM

There is more behind new features and updates on other servers. I'm sure it isn't always fun scripting and making levels. Sometimes it can be another chore. But what do I know? It is your money, do what you want with it. However take into account these warnings highlighted in this thread. They are extremely valid if you want to make a successful server for others to enjoy. Personally if I wanted to muck around and have fun using RC I would go on the testbed server. The choice is yours..

Dont rush into things without considering the downsides of the project.

MSM 04-15-2012 10:19 PM

Well, we plan on putting it onto other platforms/consoles, but that is highly secret.

Elusive 04-15-2012 10:20 PM

sigh

Christian 04-15-2012 10:20 PM

what type of gfx? id be happy to help

MSM 04-15-2012 10:22 PM

...

Christian 04-15-2012 10:25 PM

XD like what stuff would have to be made u think? u havent rlly described wut its gunna be like yet

MSM 04-15-2012 10:28 PM

Nvm not atm


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