Udids
 

Well this will be interesting:
I wonder what will happen.

O.O WOW! That's odd.

udid wat yestrday? (Staff shows up, investigates, invades pms.)

=When Stefan tries to code a new login system, all our items will be lost. Bummer...

And all the PC IDs will use a login system. Lol.

This isn't gonna be good for Graal...

I'm sure nothing will happen to Graal because it does say "Start rejecting." when Graal is already out and has been for awhile. Also, is this a true fact or like one of the words I see in the quote a rumor?

Goodbye all inconstruction iServers if true :o

Too bad for delteria, Zone, etc.

Doesn't every app use UDID? I thought that was how iDevices saved information.

Graal might have started this people, I suggest to be very cautious about these UDID hacks. If you do not know what these are, i suggest you research them and NEVER use them. I was once hacked by mine when i was new to classic and eventually got mine back. Be very careful about this. Now that it is this serious iZone's chances of being approved are lowering by the second. This is serious. Any account hackers could have stolen people's accounts who have spent tons of money on gralat packs. Stop doing this or you might put graal down for good.

This is true, it was reported on by several large tach news companies today.

No, not very many do. A lot use gamecenter. Thats what GRAAL should change to.

Here is another article:
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/03/24/apple-udids/

Hm this biz is never good

Too bad for the idea of the dream iServer I was planning...

Use some other way of player identification like gamecenter:)

There goes Stefans plan for computer/device-specific accounts. lol

Maybe he should just allow the use of Graal accounts on iPhone...

I don´t get why

All submitted applications for graal iPhone will be rejected by apple if they use the UDID log in system.
'nuf said

Aaaaanddd thats why I use VIP.

what they need to do is make the vip account system free so we can all transfer accounts and have safer accounts and just have the monthly item as well as a few extra bonuses like cheaper uploads or something for vip users

Lol...

I'm sure Stefan won't just ditch Graal iPhone considering how wildly successful it is. iServers will continue to be released.

Probably not, but he will have to redesign the apps:0

No? All they need to do is use a propper log in system with password and so on. Actually if you use iFile and browse through the game app, you will see that they are already using passwords which are saved in a .txt file for the VIP accounts. You can even log in with it into Graal PC by using the VIP email and the password of that.

It´s just a new account than without any free gold subscription, special access, whatever.

Nuf said.

Interesting:0 I didn't know that:0 checked and sure enough this is true!

I play iEra and there is no VIP on iEra but I believe you.

Nice thread iHawk. Very informative. +rep.

selin UDIDz 5000 shels eachh

0.0 what???

This should be a fantastic improvement for the iPhone community! Much less fake accounts! :D For anyone concerned about losing all your information upon an update or new release, you are wrong. There are other ways of identifying a single device in comparison to another. PCID is one example, and there is no PCIDFaker. UDID is just an inferior way to identify the device, there are newer and more effective methods in newer devices that Apple seems to want to utilize.

I only wish, that would be so much more convenient for so many more people. There may be certain pros and cons, but I'm sure if the idea was put to the test it could be worked out well.

Simply put, the server only blocks the Graalonline client from reaching the iPhone server. Creating accounts on an iPhone can be used for the client as well, but not the other way around. This is a simple fix, and can open a world of new possibilities.

However, seeing as tons of iPhone players had a lot to say about the "invasion" of PC players, perhaps there is a better alternative we can find than creating a direct bridge from one to another.

he'll just use emails.

Ok, so....

Make all the normal accounts into ones where you login with email and password. For VIP, make it a account upgrade like gold or classic. Accounts on iPhone are restricted from the pc login server. All accounts are sent a password to their email before the system is implemented. When it's implemented, you are able to use a guest account, then you can go to "Identify" in the menu and log in. All stats, items, everything untouched. Pretty easy. And there would be no trial restrictions on iServers. As for newbs afterwards, there should be the option to create an account, of course.

PCID isn't all that secure either. Any way to try to generate automated unique identities will probably fail because they rely on generated information that is then stored and can be subsequently faked. People have faked/changed PCID's for a while via changing some registry values. In fact, many people have lost accounts due to their PCID spontaneously changing.

True, that is very true.. It really seems like there is no ideal way to secure an account then, without phishing, stealing, faking, and the whole mess.. On a side note, how many people actually would consider editing registry values for a Graal benefit? That's just insane lol!

It's about as insane as UDID faking. The problem is using UDID's as a means of security with no player-input(like passwords). That's insecure because it's putting faith on the fact the UDID is verifying the person is who they claim they are, when such a thing can be faked. At least with a password people KNOW that giving away their password is stupid, whereas people aren't really aware that their UDID is their password.

Then again, passwords are subject to phishing.. I guess its really just making it harder and harder, but the faking can always still exist.

O.o this is a necrothread.