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Katniss 09-07-2011 03:47 AM
What Happened to iEra?
 
iEra, in simpler words, just isn't the same anymore. The old iEra, the one I loved and preferred over iClassic, doesn't exist anymore. The old iEra was controlled by the awesome staff (still here, by the way.) But the staff aren't the main problem. It's the players, yes, us.
Now, this is not so much for us older players (1000+ hours, at least.) Of course, it's partially everyone. But (no offense) mostly the newer players.
You see, iClassic got ruined because the greed, and the fact that the players had no input, no chance to say their word. The staff were always in hiding, and almost none responded to anyone but their friends. The updates got worse and worse, mostly because they are all hats, and, well, laziness got ahold of the beloved server.
Now, we have iEra. We have great updates, great staff, but a big problem. We aren't appreciate!
Our staff works hard and long to produce nice updates, to make the players happy. We get new guns, new areas, and most of the player input is at LEAST considered. But, the thing is, players are hating on the staff. Because, they feel they are being treated unfair. For the stupidest reasons. Once, a player hatespammed me that Bboy (sorry for the name drop) participated an auction and didn't announce it! Now, we all know that it isn't that big of a deal. In fact, for the lagger players, it's nice to have an auction that isn't full of spamming players and lag.
Of course, the fact that our staff are now mostly hiding causes a problem. No one can talk to them, and if they do come out, people spam them, with mostly unimportant stuff like hosting Weddings or the fact they got scammed.
Back when I first joined iEra, staff could freely wander around, and, although they had crowds, the players loved and respected them (that I know of. Of course, I wasn't or never have been staff, I can't read their PMs or experience what they are). But, players could input ideas, get help fairly and enjoy the game!
But, once again, now players are bothered by stupid things such as the fact BAR has a high price. I mean, come on! It's one gun. Big deal. It won't end the world if you can't get it, and I assure you that not all of the guns will suddenly have ridiculously high prices, nor will you be forced by anyone to buy them.
So, please, guys. Remember that our staff are people too, that everyone in the game deserves equal treatment. What is ruining our server, is not the high prices or the dumb gang wars, but the fact that our communication is not only dying, but failing. Because, yelling in CAPS LOCK at staff or anyone gets you nowhere.

Can we please go back to the old server I loved? Where no matter how many kills or hours you had, maturity was more important. Where our staff were respected but not treated like scary government spies or something, and where people were happy with what they had?
Because it really is a good server, and we know that. Stop complaining.

Billy 09-07-2011 04:14 AM
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Posted by KatGoesRawr (Post 7060)
iEra, in simpler words, just isn't the same anymore. The old iEra, the one I loved and preferred over iClassic, doesn't exist anymore. The old iEra was controlled by the awesome staff (still here, by the way.) But the staff aren't the main problem. It's the players, yes, us.
Now, this is not so much for us older players (1000+ hours, at least.) Of course, it's partially everyone. But (no offense) mostly the newer players.
You see, iClassic got ruined because the greed, and the fact that the players had no input, no chance to say their word. The staff were always in hiding, and almost none responded to anyone but their friends. The updates got worse and worse, mostly because they are all hats, and, well, laziness got ahold of the beloved server.
Now, we have iEra. We have great updates, great staff, but a big problem. We aren't appreciate!
Our staff works hard and long to produce nice updates, to make the players happy. We get new guns, new areas, and most of the player input is at LEAST considered. But, the thing is, players are hating on the staff. Because, they feel they are being treated unfair. For the stupidest reasons. Once, a player hatespammed me that Bboy (sorry for the name drop) participated an auction and didn't announce it! Now, we all know that it isn't that big of a deal. In fact, for the lagger players, it's nice to have an auction that isn't full of spamming players and lag.
Of course, the fact that our staff are now mostly hiding causes a problem. No one can talk to them, and if they do come out, people spam them, with mostly unimportant stuff like hosting Weddings or the fact they got scammed.
Back when I first joined iEra, staff could freely wander around, and, although they had crowds, the players loved and respected them (that I know of. Of course, I wasn't or never have been staff, I can't read their PMs or experience what they are). But, players could input ideas, get help fairly and enjoy the game!
But, once again, now players are bothered by stupid things such as the fact BAR has a high price. I mean, come on! It's one gun. Big deal. It won't end the world if you can't get it, and I assure you that not all of the guns will suddenly have ridiculously high prices, nor will you be forced by anyone to buy them.
So, please, guys. Remember that our staff are people too, that everyone in the game deserves equal treatment. What is ruining our server, is not the high prices or the dumb gang wars, but the fact that our communication is not only dying, but failing. Because, yelling in CAPS LOCK at staff or anyone gets you nowhere.

Can we please go back to the old server I loved? Where no matter how many kills or hours you had, maturity was more important. Where our staff were respected but not treated like scary government spies or something, and where people were happy with what they had?
Because it really is a good server, and we know that. Stop complaining.
I didn't know the age of a player was based on their hours o.o

Higbey 09-07-2011 04:25 AM
It starts with one gun....then boom a bunch of overpowered super expensive guns. So you'll get pked super easy if you dont buy them. Why else would they make the bar like that and raise the m16s price so unreasonably high? They are obviously perparing to do something. And I'd prefer if instead of targeting staff they targeted the owners and managers, Stefan, unixmad, snk, because they are the ones responsible for this. I don't like how they get powers on this forum, I noticed snk mass deleted posts for "not necessary", and I'm afraid they are going to use their powers to censor this forum and stuff.

Wafflez 09-07-2011 04:39 AM
As someone with experience of being both a staff and normal community member, I have to say Kat that you're both bold and somewhat...what's the word, I really don't want to offend you lol, that isn't my purpose, just a little naive. Seriously no offense though. It really is awesome that you stand up and speak out for the staff as a community member, that's really great. I wish I saw more people like you when I was staff for iClassic back in the day before it went downhill.

You have to take into consideration of what it was like for iEra in the beginning. It was a brand new server that had high expectations from almost everyone. Naturally the staff members will go out and introduce themselves so that people will know them, then if a good impression is made, positive opinion will spread amongst players. If I'm not mistaken the staff at the time were mainly PC original people, so it was a new experience for both them and people trying out iEra (considering how PC Era really doesn't get all that many people and iEra had a massive wave of people checking it out the first day).

As far as people are and how they react to things in the game, what can you do? Every group/leader comes with people that like them or love them and people who complain about them or blame them. That's the whole point of responsibility and the ability of the staff to tolerate such things.

Snowbreeze 09-07-2011 05:01 AM
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Posted by Higbey (Post 7111)
It starts with one gun....then boom a bunch of overpowered super expensive guns. So you'll get pked super easy if you dont buy them. .
Uh? The price of the BAR was made just to avoid this, to ALL player to get it, so I highly doubt this will happen, because I dont think we will see a lot of people in the street with it.

Katniss 09-07-2011 06:40 AM
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Posted by Wafflez (Post 7118)
As someone with experience of being both a staff and normal community member, I have to say Kat that you're both bold and somewhat...what's the word, I really don't want to offend you lol, that isn't my purpose, just a little naive. Seriously no offense though. It really is awesome that you stand up and speak out for the staff as a community member, that's really great. I wish I saw more people like you when I was staff for iClassic back in the day before it went downhill.

You have to take into consideration of what it was like for iEra in the beginning. It was a brand new server that had high expectations from almost everyone. Naturally the staff members will go out and introduce themselves so that people will know them, then if a good impression is made, positive opinion will spread amongst players. If I'm not mistaken the staff at the time were mainly PC original people, so it was a new experience for both them and people trying out iEra (considering how PC Era really doesn't get all that many people and iEra had a massive wave of people checking it out the first day).

As far as people are and how they react to things in the game, what can you do? Every group/leader comes with people that like them or love them and people who complain about them or blame them. That's the whole point of responsibility and the ability of the staff to tolerate such things.
Commenting mainly on the paragraph I bolded.
I do note that yes, iEra was different in the beginning. But, at the time I mainly started Era, it was already a few months in! The fact that the staff were roaming around helping players with a good attitude and behavior definitely was impressive, and what brought me to switch servers. Of course, now, although I love the staff, it seems like whenever they go out they get harassed...

Now on the paragraphs I underlined. (Jeez, im so OCD I even underline and bold things in a neat fashion xD)
Don't worry, I'm not offended, I can be very naive sometimes xD but I'll stand up for what I want and that's it :)
And, I know there will be people who dislike the staff, always. But I'm hearing more and more every day, month... from most of the iEra staff, the community is just getting less and less supportive, even though the staff are working to make Era better and more fun with the players.
And to me, thats a bit ironic and su****ious, I guess.

Snowbreeze 09-07-2011 06:59 AM
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Posted by KatGoesRawr (Post 7171)
The fact that the staff were roaming around helping players with a good attitude and behavior definitely was impressive, and what brought me to switch servers.
So you switched servers just cause of the Staff, o...

Cloyd 09-07-2011 07:32 AM
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Posted by Snowbreeze (Post 7124)
Uh? The price of the BAR was made just to avoid this, to ALL player to get it, so I highly doubt this will happen, because I dont think we will see a lot of people in the street with it.
As the Guns Admin, I can assure everyone that there will be guns at available prices. The BAR is a gun that is not meant for everyone to have, like the M16 was. Speaking of the M16, the price will be dropped soon. I'm just saying everyone is freaking out because of this one gun.. You shouldn't. Yes, the price is high, but it is also a very good gun. And personally, I don't like seeing everybody using the same gun. New guns will be released soon. This is a wave of "good" guns though, so expect high prices. I'm working on a lot of things to satisfy you guys. Don't let the price of the BAR affect your gameplay on iEra.

Thunderstorm 09-07-2011 07:42 AM
the bar is overpriced, graal gets enough money from gratlat packs, i know that coz i get them all the time, do they really need more...

Cloyd 09-07-2011 07:45 AM
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Posted by Thunderstørm (Post 7182)
the bar is overpriced, graal gets enough money from gratlat packs, i know that coz i get them all the time, do they really need more...
The BAR is overpriced for a reason, as I just said. It's not like you HAVE to go and buy a gralat pack and get this gun. Honestly, if I was a normal player, I wouldn't try getting it either. Y'know, unless I was rich and all.

Thunderstorm 09-07-2011 07:47 AM
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Posted by Cloyd (Post 7184)
The BAR is overpriced for a reason, as I just said. It's not like you HAVE to go and buy a gralat pack and get this gun. Honestly, if I was a normal player, I wouldn't try getting it either. Y'know, unless I was rich and all.
seriously? if it did like 12 damage or so maybe.... but it is the same as an neo rifle just a little bit faster

Cloyd 09-07-2011 07:51 AM
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Posted by Thunderstørm (Post 7185)
seriously? if it did like 12 damage or so maybe.... but it is the same as an neo rifle just a little bit faster
No gun is the same as another. There are guns that are SIMILAR, yes. I can't get around that sometimes. People can complain all they want about the BAR, but the fact is that no matter how much they complain, it will always go back to one thing. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Thunderstorm 09-07-2011 07:56 AM
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Posted by Cloyd (Post 7187)
No gun is the same as another. There are guns that are SIMILAR, yes. I can't get around that sometimes. People can complain all they want about the BAR, but the fact is that no matter how much they complain, it will always go back to one thing. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
its not that i dont like it, but is it really worth buying for THAT price?

Cloyd 09-07-2011 08:00 AM
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Posted by Thunderstørm (Post 7190)
its not that i dont like it, but is it really worth buying for THAT price?
Yes.

Thunderstorm 09-07-2011 08:01 AM
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Posted by Cloyd (Post 7192)
Yes.
do you have one?

Kane 09-07-2011 08:12 AM
I have one, it's worth buying imo

Cloyd 09-07-2011 08:20 AM
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Posted by Thunderstørm (Post 7194)
do you have one?
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Posted by Cloyd (Post 7192)
Yes.

Jatz 09-07-2011 08:56 AM
I talk to the players constantly. i know, because i am one of them, that the staff are still just as active as always.

Wafflez 09-07-2011 11:37 AM
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Posted by KatGoesRawr (Post 7171)
Commenting mainly on the paragraph I bolded.
I do note that yes, iEra was different in the beginning. But, at the time I mainly started Era, it was already a few months in! The fact that the staff were roaming around helping players with a good attitude and behavior definitely was impressive, and what brought me to switch servers. Of course, now, although I love the staff, it seems like whenever they go out they get harassed...

Now on the paragraphs I underlined. (Jeez, im so OCD I even underline and bold things in a neat fashion xD)
Don't worry, I'm not offended, I can be very naive sometimes xD but I'll stand up for what I want and that's it :)
And, I know there will be people who dislike the staff, always. But I'm hearing more and more every day, month... from most of the iEra staff, the community is just getting less and less supportive, even though the staff are working to make Era better and more fun with the players.
And to me, thats a bit ironic and su****ious, I guess.
Well the important thing is that the iEra staff keep up the good work in improving the game. The best you can do is support the staff yourself, just be the change you want to see in the server, and it seems you're doing that with flying colors. One of the main reasons I left iClassic staff is because the updates started slacking and the work environment changed drastically, which in turn, unmotivated me. I don't know whether it was just one bad decision after another based on the devs/management or stress influenced by players.

Jatz 09-07-2011 11:55 AM
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Posted by Wafflez (Post 7265)
Well the important thing is that the iEra staff keep up the good work in improving the game. The best you can do is support the staff yourself, just be the change you want to see in the server, and it seems you're doing that with flying colors. One of the main reasons I left iClassic staff is because the updates started slacking and the work environment changed drastically, which in turn, unmotivated me. I don't know whether it was just one bad decision after another based on the devs/management or stress influenced by players.
Well said

BboyEatsbacon 09-07-2011 09:45 PM
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Posted by Thunderstørm (Post 7194)
do you have one?
I have the BAR; favorite weapon so far in my opinion. Making it automatic was just icing on the cake. (I know, Browning Automatic Rifle, but it wasn't automatic upon release.)

snk 09-07-2011 09:50 PM
Bar owns!

Thanks. We're working on a new church system and such. We're always welcome to suggestions :)

BboyEatsbacon 09-07-2011 09:56 PM
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Posted by snk (Post 7500)
Bar owns!

Thanks. We're working on a new church system and such. We're always welcome to suggestions :)
We should have an NPC that if you grab puts up a GUI that allows you to arrange a wedding. I think it would be of much convience to people. Then have an NPC as the preist of the wedding(s).

snk 09-07-2011 09:58 PM
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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 7512)
We should have an NPC that if you grab puts up a GUI that allows you to arrange a wedding. I think it would be of much convience to people. Then have an NPC as the preist of the wedding(s).
I agree

Regretness 09-07-2011 11:14 PM
THIS IS WHAT I MEAN!!! Iera in the past was so much better! stop giving items to people for free. Also the hours. IVE BEEN IN ERA SINCE DAY 1. YES! DAY1. AND I ONLY HAVE ABOUT 600 HOURS. STOP ALL THIS NONSENCE AND GET BAACK TO OLD ERA.

ALSO, WE NEED MORE UPDATES. 5 TIMES A WEEK IS AWESOME! NOT 1 TIME! GET WORKING!

im not yelling, im just annoyed XD

#5 09-07-2011 11:19 PM
Alright people, this is the wrong thread to be arguing about the BAR.

Katniss 09-07-2011 11:21 PM
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Posted by #5 (Post 7579)
Alright people, this is the wrong thread to be arguing about the BAR.
Exactly! Thank you.

Billy 09-08-2011 12:30 AM
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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 7512)
We should have an NPC that if you grab puts up a GUI that allows you to arrange a wedding. I think it would be of much convience to people. Then have an NPC as the preist of the wedding(s).
Ey wtf take Fatal International out of that list it's just a gang for me and my friend.

NCJohn 09-08-2011 02:46 AM
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Posted by Snowbreeze (Post 7173)
So you switched servers just cause of the Staff, o...
I did the same thing; I played iClassic since a month after it was released and then last september when my ipod broke and my bro gave me his, I had to wait 5 months for an account transfer even though I sent several properly formatted emails requesting a transfer. By the time I got the transfer (feb. 2011) I had already made iera my new home. So yeah you can quit a game over issues with staff xD

Snowbreeze 09-08-2011 08:49 PM
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Posted by NCJohn (Post 7766)
I did the same thing; I played iClassic since a month after it was released and then last september when my ipod broke and my bro gave me his, I had to wait 5 months for an account transfer even though I sent several properly formatted emails requesting a transfer. By the time I got the transfer (feb. 2011) I had already made iera my new home. So yeah you can quit a game over issues with staff xD
At least that makes sense, but she is talking about she just switched servers because Staff where nicer on iEra, does not makes sense and just sounds ridiculous.

Saya 09-08-2011 09:00 PM
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Posted by KatGoesRawr (Post 7060)
iEra, in simpler words, just isn't the same anymore. The old iEra, the one I loved and preferred over iClassic, doesn't exist anymore. The old iEra was controlled by the awesome staff (still here, by the way.) But the staff aren't the main problem. It's the players, yes, us.
Now, this is not so much for us older players (1000+ hours, at least.) Of course, it's partially everyone. But (no offense) mostly the newer players.
You see, iClassic got ruined because the greed, and the fact that the players had no input, no chance to say their word. The staff were always in hiding, and almost none responded to anyone but their friends. The updates got worse and worse, mostly because they are all hats, and, well, laziness got ahold of the beloved server.
Now, we have iEra. We have great updates, great staff, but a big problem. We aren't appreciate!
Our staff works hard and long to produce nice updates, to make the players happy. We get new guns, new areas, and most of the player input is at LEAST considered. But, the thing is, players are hating on the staff. Because, they feel they are being treated unfair. For the stupidest reasons. Once, a player hatespammed me that Bboy (sorry for the name drop) participated an auction and didn't announce it! Now, we all know that it isn't that big of a deal. In fact, for the lagger players, it's nice to have an auction that isn't full of spamming players and lag.
Of course, the fact that our staff are now mostly hiding causes a problem. No one can talk to them, and if they do come out, people spam them, with mostly unimportant stuff like hosting Weddings or the fact they got scammed.
Back when I first joined iEra, staff could freely wander around, and, although they had crowds, the players loved and respected them (that I know of. Of course, I wasn't or never have been staff, I can't read their PMs or experience what they are). But, players could input ideas, get help fairly and enjoy the game!
But, once again, now players are bothered by stupid things such as the fact BAR has a high price. I mean, come on! It's one gun. Big deal. It won't end the world if you can't get it, and I assure you that not all of the guns will suddenly have ridiculously high prices, nor will you be forced by anyone to buy them.
So, please, guys. Remember that our staff are people too, that everyone in the game deserves equal treatment. What is ruining our server, is not the high prices or the dumb gang wars, but the fact that our communication is not only dying, but failing. Because, yelling in CAPS LOCK at staff or anyone gets you nowhere.

Can we please go back to the old server I loved? Where no matter how many kills or hours you had, maturity was more important. Where our staff were respected but not treated like scary government spies or something, and where people were happy with what they had?
Because it really is a good server, and we know that. Stop complaining.
I have 400 hours but have been playing since I saw it in newest releases on toucharcade.

Snowbreeze 09-08-2011 09:13 PM
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Posted by Saya (Post 8099)
I have 400 hours but have been playing since I saw it in newest releases on toucharcade.
Okay.

Dragu 09-08-2011 09:20 PM
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Posted by Saya (Post 8099)
I have 400 hours but have been playing since I saw it in newest releases on toucharcade.
I waited DAYS, HOURS, MINUTES, And even SECONDS for it. and i only have 660 hours

DragonRider 09-09-2011 03:36 AM
I respect the staff. I know their busy. I help them out a little by saying "NO." if players ask for a knife or to be dragged. I try to be as helpful as I can. The problem is the player's fault. You will never be dragged or get a knife if you spam them. Admins aren't superhuman and players will never accept that even if we hammer it into their brains. So I beg you players, don't spam, don't ask, and be patient. TL;DR: STOP SPAMMING THEM AND BE PATIENT YOU NEWBS!

PulsE 09-09-2011 03:40 AM
mobile

Jester Lapse 09-11-2011 01:41 AM
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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 7496)
I have the BAR; favorite weapon so far in my opinion. Making it automatic was just icing on the cake. (I know, Browning Automatic Rifle, but it wasn't automatic upon release.)
lol people in tiger international beat a lot of people in panther @ your signiture. >:)

ZenthorCanavi 09-11-2011 04:44 AM
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Posted by Dragu (Post 8118)
I waited DAYS, HOURS, MINUTES, And even SECONDS for it. and i only have 660 hours
I played on the first day it came out and only have 130.

Wafflez 09-12-2011 11:37 AM
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Posted by ZenthorCanavi (Post 9325)
I played on the first day it came out and only have 130.
ohya? me too.

Dragu 09-12-2011 11:47 AM
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Posted by ZenthorCanavi (Post 9325)
I played on the first day it came out and only have 130.
Played the first hour after snk announced it the first time ;3

I think it even was the first hour the game was released. The player count went from 5 to 500 in a few mins xD

Katniss 09-12-2011 03:13 PM
Okay I didn't mean specifically 1000 hours, guys. I just meant the players who have been on since near the beginning OR have played a lot.

Dragu 09-12-2011 03:52 PM
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Posted by KatGoesRawr (Post 9894)
I just meant the players who have been on since near the beginning OR have played a lot.
This is exactly the same what u mean. I play since it started and didn't really play alot. Ppl have 1000-2000 hours cuz they played alot. or went afk often.

Kane 09-13-2011 06:07 AM
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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 9283)
lol people in tiger international beat a lot of people in panther @ your signiture. >:)
coming from a person who uses bear traps to get his wins in spars. :giggle:

Jester Lapse 09-14-2011 11:39 PM
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Posted by Herb_P2P (Post 10250)
coming from a person who uses bear traps to get his wins in spars. :giggle:
i do better without bear traps lol. i was testing different items for the hell of it :P

DragonRider 09-16-2011 01:20 AM
What happened to iEra? Easy, a new race of aliens called "noobs" invaded and killed our precious server.

Snowbreeze 09-16-2011 04:42 AM
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Posted by KatGoesRawr (Post 7060)
Can we please go back to the old server I loved?
No, I dont think so, sadly.

The Ever 09-16-2011 04:53 AM
:O maybe

Rok 09-16-2011 06:51 PM
@Kat I agree with you mainly, except the fact that I do NOT have 1000+ hours and yet you don't see me spamming or raging :D ( Not all the time at least ;P) And I come to find that the newer players (200 hours or less) are actually pretty quiet and contained, and even nice on some occassions. It's those dang 400-700 hour kids that think they own the game because they played for a "Long Time." Ha! So I sit on a park bench and listen to them make false claims like "I've been playing since '08 when iEra hasn't even been out that long. And that makes me laugh, which is good :)


To all of you who took offense to something I said.... Hi, I'm Rok. I live on 1424 Scholar Drive, Green Bay Wisconsin. Come and say it to my face.

Dragu 09-16-2011 10:17 PM
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Posted by Rok (Post 11154)
I live on 1424 Scholar Drive, Green Bay Wisconsin.
*Stalk Stalk stalk*

Kana 09-20-2011 11:33 PM
Yeah.. back then when noobs came in and said i own this island in that little island. PK With m4 and ak with double uzis... I Joined era on december 25 but since i still played calssic i left era. After 6 months i returned and saw it better than classic (since i got a new iphone my account never got transferred) Know I Stook With era and noticed it changed! Rare items new guns epic clothes and more. I Should Have Stayed With iEra. SNK IS AWESOME AND HIS CREW!!! But Still I Played iEra Back When It Released And Also We Should Have Stayed With Old Era!!! I Pretty Much hated era when customs were released...

Mystickk 09-27-2011 09:15 PM
I'm perfectly fine with the guns I have, yes I want the BAR but it isn't a necessity for me to get. :) I also treat all admins like a regular person, just because they have abilities doesn't mean that they aren't something to freak about. Oh by the way, don't you just love the spams when you win something at auction ;)? And to me, it's not the gun, it's how the player uses it. Like I can own people with any gun just with my water pistol, yes it's harder with guns that have high damage, but it's possible :D. My opinion, please no one take it personal >.< And I'm going to shut up now before I say something else.


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