Serious problems with new tower guilds
 

My guild loves mod, its great because you cant hold as long as other forts but you also dont need 8+ people to take it like other forts. But yesterday Voyage got mod, and withen 20-30 minutes the new guild "reign of chaos" attacked. The problem was the ironically timed hacker, that, when reign of chaos got alot up, this player with only a few hours blocked our way up to kill reign of chaos and heal flag. The player was obviousy a hacker noting he stood on our doorway saying "hahahahah. And not dying. Right when i became to type my report on him, reign of chaos took the fort. (this was withen 20 seconds after the hacker appeared). After reign of chaos took, the hacker disapeared and no admins would even contact or help us. even after reports, feedback, and personal messages. Kendama even had a guild pic up of the hacker laughing and us all stuck trying to get pasthim saying"wtf.

Another new guild (well, techinically new in my opinion) almost alot of us have been ticked about is Graal. 95% would agree that this guild would be nowhere without bribing everyone with itunes cards. This isnt how tower taking should be. Kendama has been working on a list of importand people who disagree with this and believe they should be reset and he said i told him to post on here so look for this later. I can tell you that what i know is he said pedro is going to talk to xor about reseting them today.
(on a side note graals mass up noobs has caused alot of harassment to new players, i saw them calling a girl a hoe who claimed she was 9, just because e girl dident have a lantern)

What im looking for on this thread is how we can do anything about mod hackers like this (i cant prove reign of chaos was parted with the hacker but i know its a sore tactic to take a tower from a guild dealing with a hacker

And im also looking for your opinions on the itunes bribe. I believe this violates terms and conditions. Please dont call me a prick for complaining about them, but it has affected many guilds. If they are stealing members from guilds like mine and holding forts like swamp for 24 hours straight this guild should be doing it legally.

I had this problem yesterday too at mod
A noob was blocking the stairs that nobody can go up to the flag
after a few mins he got draged...
but it sucks how poor they must be that theyr cheating

Is it bad this made me laugh?

Just shows immaturity and it's your not as much of a badass you act ive been taking towers for 2 years and i dnt find it funny when new players are harassed

I never said Im a badass...it just made me laugh ._.

How is a little girl being called a hoe funny?

Cookie(leader of graal) has glitching videos on his yt channel. :3

Its not

90% of iclassic guilds suck. That's what Happens why your player base is mostly little kids. Graal really does need to stop bribing people. They're one of the worst guilds out there. Ten they need to just fix mod, and have more vigilant staff members at towers. Then have stag members more ready to reset someone. Honestly what I think the staff needs to do us reset some big guild which does this tactics a lot and make a point that this ****s not gonna fly. It's a pretty big problem. It's really sad that people say that they're this great guild while they do stuff like this. Chatblocking, hack blocking, horse jumping, noobcruiting, etc. not a huge fan of the current state of guilds. Then you have people who only take towers for their stupid hat which is incredibly easy to get now days because there's hardly any competition now. Why? Because there are tower taking guilds which use these methods. I wish some guild leaders would show some damn pride, and make a guild which is successful and completely clean of these things.

Update: graal leader just got a tag from one of out perms then blokced us from getting up while his guild took. Not necessarily against the rules although it could be found techincally wrong of somthing.
Just a sore move

Report it. Your guilds fault though. Graal srrsly does need a disband.. And a few bosses need perm bans

But godzilla weve debated this before. No majorguilds really break rules. Only ones like
Graal ,voyage,
Takaii ,etc...
Godzilla are you even in a tower guild?

I've seen every major guild (not the recent ones) break the rules, just report it.

None of this stuff is new, you won't find much sympathy on here since most people on here are from admin guilds that either dont give a crap about towers or dont care because they have admins that watch their own guild's towers.

Pretty sure you aren't supposed to make threads calling out specific players. You are calling out cookie in this thread about in-game problems.

Not sure how you've been taking towers for 2 years, when it hasn't made it to the 2 year guild fort point yet. But ok.

goblin i said id name guilds who support not specific players thats rude. lol

Um well ill put my list in a minute im busy on graal right now.
But for somthing that would go on this thread is that forgotten legends is full of hackers. My friend that1guy has good video footage ill post in 2 days. I also have a few pics of them glitching.

We have a "player" who keeps hacking us at mod everytime we get it. Probobaly keeps making new accounts but its getting annoying i dont know what anyone can do about it.
And to the guy who said only people like takaii, voyge, graal are only Cheaters ur so wrong lol.
I pretty much have to be on everytime my guile takes a fort. I can honestly say we havent had any lag blocking or glitching in months. We also have never ever hacked in any way. I saw a few members horse glitch inside mod and swamp when you could do it.. We never told them to and we made them stop when they did it. Same for lag blocki altho we havent had problems with that since we were like at 100 hr. Also, ill point out takaii doesnt cheat at all... I havent seen major guilds have an issue with cheating also it happends occasionally its not the guilds specific fault. Being someone who spied on graal as a different look and name i can assure you grasl DOES tell their members to horse glitch mod and lag block lol.

And lastly, kid who said that were pointing out cookie your stupid. If a guild is cheating immensy especially by bribing members and it violates graal terms of services it should definetly be adressed here.

Voyage "breaks rules".... wow that is news to me. The reality is that "major" guilds glitch and hack all of the time. If I had the patience to video record each time I see this happening, there would be a lot of players in a ban right now. I will not go into detail about the specific guilds but I will say this, watch out for Forgotten Legends. Literally their whole guild glitches and hacks and I do have evidence like Ken up there says.

Spades I've been in the good tower guilds In the past, and it was tons of fun. Then I was in advent, and I saw what they were doing and what everyone else was doing. I also spent a little time in Vtff. A lots changed since way back when and not for the better.

Nope. You could say that about anyone for anything. "So&so.. Always cusses at me and uses harsh language towards me, and it's really getting annoying and I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to do that".

Just don't name specific people on the forum. The most you can do is report them in-game or PRIVATELY speak to a staff member if it's worrying you that much. Forums aren't here for ranting about other specific players. Guilds as a whole, is more fair though because it doesn't single out any specifics.

^New signature actually. Quite tired of all this "cyber-bullying"

What do you people want me to do ? With draw a already thrown statement? -.-

That's fine. Props to him for tricking you like that.

I lolled when u said cyberbullying we're adressing issues that staff doesnt give an flying poop about when we in-game adress it. Minus a few.. Very few. If we cant get help about hackers or people bribing my members with real world money imma bring it here.. Can you please quote where we "bullied" anyone. Id love to see ur defintion of bullying

Pointing out specific people, singling them out in a public forum is a form of "Bullying". Just don't rant about players. That's not what the forums are for. PM staff members. Don't bring it here. If everyone posted stuff about how certain players cheat, this forum would be nothing but a giant rant.

They might as well re-name this "Report abuse forum", if you think you can just rant about other specific players. Just don't do it. It's extremely rude.

Go away offtopic noob

Lol ^ Okay goodbye :) you are right and I am wrong :love:

Understood.

When we asked NYN he trolololed at us. I am not ranting but critically assesing what they have done illegal that have affected so many others.

This noob ur talking about was helping Soul of Ninjas last night and was again when TaKaii had mod

I don't think that paying people in iTunes cards is illegal really, just stupid for the person who is buying them all.

Terms and conditions for graalonline incudes that you are not to trade in game services or items for real world money. I dont really expect xor or stephan to side with my side at all.. More money for them, cookie has bought countless gralat packs... I can tell you theres not one major guild leader that thinks they shoud keep their hours, excet their allies, whos leader gets itunes cards from cookie too.

Its just an unfair tower advantage. Not everyone in the world can afford these itunes like he can. Things like this shoudnt affect the balance of tower taking.

I think he can keep his guild hours. We can all look down on him, quietly.

Remember when Rashard ripped off some kid that paid him like 100 bucks for a gst hat? Yeah he got in trouble for that..so I'm pretty sure it's against the rules

oh the tragidy! trying not to be a jerk. towers...idc about them. mainly because tower owners use sub guilds and/or recruit noobs

That reminds me of "WALMART Dan"
This little jerk kid whose dad was the manager of a Walmart and pretty much got all the iTunes he wanted and bribed people to joining his guild..and he tried to buy project soul once for like $90 iTunes.

Voyage lead complains about breaking rules? I have pics of him noob recruiting in Graal City. Not technically breaking a rule, but it's as bad as lag blocking to me

Thats how we take towers? Itunes is cheating, you have to be a rich kid to do it. Recruiting is not, anyone can do it. Its nothing compared to be lag blocki or horse glitching or hacking. And we dont recruit log off= kick. Were not an admin guild, we dont have members with super awesome kills and our leaderis just average. Its harder to get loyal members an you might think.

And Lol, i remember wallmart dan ^.^ i saw him on old cruxis a few times. He was kinda scummy.

:)
 

You don't need to cry because I get more towers than you in a virtual game. If rewarding players with iTunes cards was against the rules, I wouldn't be doing it. I even contacted most of the staff team about this and they all gave a positive response that it is not ILLEGAL. Some big guilds hold events and get rewarded with iTunes, that for you is RWT? Heck, lets get them reset too? And I wouldn't really call it paying them, more like rewarding them. Staying countless hours at a tower in my view should be rewarded, especially after 2 weeks. You try to do everything to take me down, but I'm just having a jolly old time reading your posts. Good day to you, and I'll see you at swamp sometime later.

If his hours got reset, he'd feel like he wasted so much money.

Yes, but that's considered scamming. If he's actually giving them iTunes cards, it isn't a scam.

This is a pretty iffy subject though... I don't really have an opinion about this.

It isnt a scam at all. Its UNFAIR to every other single guild in this game who cant afford this. notice how fast they shot up with most of the players being new

lol noob get defensive with all these desperate, made up excuses and explanations

guys, stop havin pointless arguments about towers. they suck and itll take you over two years to get 5000 hours anyways. have fun.

I probably shouldn't bring this thread back to life, but I noticed something someone said so I will anyways.

That's like saying people shouldn't be able to go to college because some people can't affourd it. :)

Scholarships dip-head

this^ only arguements i have ever had on towers/tower guilds are:
staff tower guilds.
And
To reset tower times because the funniest times for guild forts was when everybody had less than 1k fort hours. even better less than 200 hours.

Only basing times I remember is when Venus gospel had like 100 hours and bases had just came out. Gooood times

Why is there always threads solely for bashing tower guilds? Just stop complaining and play the game. No reason to make a thread telling everyone that you're all butthurt that Reign of Chaos took MoD from you. Just go get another tower, if you had enough to hold MoD, you had enough to take another tower.

Cry about it, don't expect everything to be fair. Is it fair that staff members get to upload personal graphics absolutely free, while regular players have to pay a $7 fee? Is it fair that new players who want to get into the game get demolished in spar by veteran players? Is it fair that staff guild members get their graphics uploaded at request? Is it fair that players with VIP get access to exclusive items when regular players do not?

Cookie is simply using his resources. It is a legitimate way (as in, does not directly conflict with the Graal TOS) to get popularity and higher member count, be it unfair or not. Anyhow, if members are going to spend countless hours at towers for a reward, what would they prefer? iTunes balance or a mass of pixels on their head - no, a generic item for 1k.

Hate him or not, he is simply doing anything he can to get members. It really isn't much different than a staff tower guild. Players join staff tower guilds to be closer to staff members, people join Cookie's guild for iTunes currency. They both result in a large flock of potential members, one no greater than the other. Keep your complaints in the in-game guild chat please.

Have a nice day.

tl;dr

Not everyone gets scholarships. Some people aren't able to get scholarships due to irl problems, they have to miss school, etc. So if they want to attend college, they have to pay. And if they are too poor, they can't pay. Their credit probably would look bad as well, and they wouldn't be able to get a student loan.

Therefore, my statement stands at "That's like saying people shouldn't be able to go to college because some people can't affourd it."

<3 u too

I also laughed lol

Apparently Cookie paid Goten for the 1k Rebellious hat

>VeNuS GoSpeL
>Towers being new

Pick one, noob.

Holy s**t, why is there so much hate on Graal's guilds; especially tower guilds? It's the same three people hating on guilds. There's been a thread by each of those three specific people (not going to give names, you should be able to figure it out) for every single little rant they have about a mishap on Graal. Ignore it, go back to the spar arena, and again.. Let the guilds do what they have to do, worry about your own stuff. If they're using legitimate tactics, use it back against them.. The game's gotta evolve.

And, why would you noob recruit him in the first place? Do I sense hypocrisy?

FYI random thread reviver, we were right and making this thread helped. Graal was made to stop giving itunes or they would be reset. like a week ago.


moron

^lol this is false. venus gospel did not have 100 hours when based came out ,they didnt even exsist clearly you didnt play when "bases" or forts came out.
if you did you would be mentioning CJ, chelseas knights, ETM, AGK war section, Pulse, Pandemonium, Savage, 3nvy, Red Assasins, iball , Nerv Guild War, FOXHOUND, SoS
so dont lie about somthing if you werent here for it.

^ he said this because asters VG came a year or more after towers came.

now i just gave you guys the oldie ipod graal guild experiance, now half of you are gunna use this info and pretend like you were around for it.

not everyone gets Scholorships "Dip-head".. i cant deny it the first 2 weeks cookie posted his pic as GP it made me rage, i used to stalk his guild and just pk them but i honestly dont see wtf is wrong with bribing people with itunes cards.. if it was a scam id really rage but it turns out its not soooo youre just hating on himm.. btw 95% people agree on hating him?! "who you representing?"