Battle arena updates and suggestions
 

Since the queue is super long I'm going to write this thread while I wait in-between my spars.
Starting this thread with the new update that took place, there are new hats in the battle arena cave you can buy them by using coins. You get coins by winning in spar.
Hats:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...94/unknown.png
Suggestion to this update:

1. Make new hats and rotate the hats in this cave frequently.
2. Just like how there is an 80% chance or whatever the chance is to find a fragment when you win a spar win. It should also be applied to losing a spar but the chance is lower, you lose a fragment or even a coin if you have already converted it into a coin.
   Reason: For professional sparers, it's not hard at all to get all the hats in this cave by just being active. It won't take more than 12 hours in total, you just have to be active. I know this won't workout for the noobs this is why I'm going to list other suggestions below.
3. Separate the fragments into three types, Golden coins only gained from the main streak room and top streak room (I will explain why somewhere on the thread), silver coins only gained from the streak rooms. (The reason why silver coins will be gained from the side rooms will be listed somewhere below in the thread)
4. Value the three different types of coins. for example: 50 golden coins or 75 silver coins or 100 bronze coins to get a specific hat.
5. New:make new commands :coins: :fragments: to check how many you have

Main suggestions for battle arena:

1. The left side room should be only for beginners. There should be a limit of how many spar wins you have in-order to enter this room. For example if you have more than 1000 spar wins you're not allowed to enter it. The battle arena needs a place for beginners!! This is why bronze coins are gained in this room.
2. The right side room also needs a limit of how many spar wins you can have for example if you have more than 4000 spar wins you can't enter.
3. The streak room located on the left side, needs to have a limit of how many spar wins required to enter it. For example, if you have less than 1000 spar wins you can't enter this room. This room is for advanced players, they're always sparring in it. To protect the noobs who don't know that, don't allow them in it. Let them practice in the side rooms and get good first!
4. Anyone can queue in the top room streak room, noobs needs to be given the option wither they want to start sparring players on their level or straight into the good players. Since there is a lot of advanced players who spars in the top room.
5. if the queue remains this long, a new room needs to be added. And possibly change the stuff I listed above to add a third type of fragment.
6. Important: Make a subscription that can be bought using gralats. If bought, the player will have a "goodluck emote"(the player can turn this option off or on) at the start of every match. Another subscription if bought the player will have "goodgame emote" at the end of the spar match (the player can turn this option off or on). Make a new subscription that can be purchased using gralats, when the player gets more than 10 spar wins streak a little firework will appear. Another subscription, when the player gains more than 20 spar wins a lot of firework will appear in the room. Make a new subscription that let the player do a dance or something at the end of the match when he wins inside the ring (Make a little delay when a player wins, he remains in the ring for several seconds till the dance is finished) .These subscriptions will last for the whole season or whatever. Reason: you ca make players purchase gralats in different ways, not just by having them to purchase hats.

I will add new suggestions later. Feel free to give feedback on the suggestions I listed.

I agree.
They must implement it and lower the chance of getting fragments so players spar more, we all know once we get it, we'll just leave it

Wouldn't it be pointless if they just implement more currencies? That is just like 2500 green gralats or 1 cyan gralat. It might cause more server problems.

Maybe.

It’s sad that the most “competitive” aspect of iClassic had to be incentivized in order to promote activity.

At least now fulgy will have the courage to spar at 2:00am like he used too :0

I say let it play out and fix it when abuses/problem occur.

They should do it to GS TOO

AND GRAALIANS every time you post you get a chance to receive a rep lol

And what happened to dust not being a fan of multiple currencies?

The abuse is the quality of those hats.

Almost as bad as some of the stuff at the carnival. Yeesh.

With all the players in the room, all android players are extremely slow and laggy, same for PC players unless you have a really good PC. I'd like to see a option where everyone is invisable but me and the person I vs. It would help lower lag, bc loading 30-40 players is pretty hard to spar with.. so this gives better running devices a advantage over devices that can't handle the player count

Make a temporary that will open if there are more than 30 players in both streak rooms.

make sure its "temporary" because there's enough boosting already.

Is the spar coin the same as the coin item you get from GST?
If so, why the f/k is it worth 100 coins when it all what it does is flip and there is already a spar item like that lmao

It is and it isn't lol
It's a more expensive version of the gst coin. (100/5 * 250 = 5000g, gst gifts are 2500) The GST coin is so much better because of the chat command. You don't have to equip it to use it. Anyone who buys the coin is wasting their time and money.

isn't the coin an entire different thing though? Or is it heads or trails still

Who knows, we might be wrong and it turns up to be something different lol
Once im home i will spar and buy it. I will do it for the tram

but I agree with saeed, side rooms should be fixed sure lower plays can spar. Left room under 500 wins, right room under 1000 or 2000. I'm sure you guys have resetted so many people in the side rooms due to boosting in it. Lower class players will have 0 chance to win in the sides due to people with 5000 or 10000wins just slaughtering them over and over.

nice job that admins implemented a system where players are motivated to spar. problem is that the motivation will run out within 2 years.

where are the towering updates tho o:

Things that I'll suggest:

1.) There should be some type of small multiplier or bonus based on streak length.

2.) If you're releasing new coin shop items periodically, as you should, try to have more variety. A lot of females spar, so feminine options would be nice.

3.) To promote sparring long term, I still think you guys should re-release the old milestone hats (and/or add more). These should be a thing all the way up to 100k, maybe at the intervals of 1k, 5k, 10k, 25k, 50k, and 100k. Players were never told that those hats would be exclusive, and I think they should be brought back so that there are long-term goals. This has received overwhelming support: https://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23696

At bare minimum, bring back the hats from old at the same milestones as old. Doing this would create incentivize for a very long time with very little work required.

bring top 50-100 leaderboard back, The top 100 leaderboard back in the day was the reason I started sparring. Aiming to be on that leaderboard some day, Which I'm sure new comers to the competitive side would love again. I like thallens idea of bringing back the hats for wins for 1k 5k etc.

every single suggestion saeed made is ******ed and should never be put into the game. just add spar related, good milestone hats and continue to refresh the coin shop like you do with mod carnival if you want to keep spar activity high.

According to you this shouldn't happen.

that 'refresh the shop' wasn't referring to your suggestion...it is pretty obvious that it would be their next move, which is why i said 'continue' because i agreed with the admins, not you.

ohhhhh so you agree with what I said but you don't agree with what i said? Okay I understand

milestone hats again please thanks.

what? i clearly said i don't agree with what you said because they were stupid ideas, obviously the coin refresh was excluded because that was going to happen anyways?? its a given, everyone knows thats their next step, it wasn't a suggestion????

I agree with milestone hats.
If you don't want to give hats for free then you can make it so it costs gralats to buy but it's only purchasable once you reach the specific amount of spar wins.

what is wrong with you people, why do you basically ask them to take your money? if it's a milestone it should be handed to you, not behind a gralat wall for the sake of greed. jesus

Because anything that makes a player buy gralat packs interest em. I'll pay 5000 gralats to get top 100 leaderboard of all time

So is this the NGS?

We all know they’re not going to make hats for free. When you tell them hi you can make money out of it will interest them. I don’t buy gralats anyways

Have to agree with the carnival hats, but mainly the free ones you get for winning, so it’s ok. The ones that are for sale are smexy, well the ones I bought.


On-topic: Being that spar is such a highly skilled aspect of iClassic they should just add all the hats in the history of the server, so the spar community can maintain its current activity levels.

https://www.graalians.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=21

Milestone rewards more delayed than NGS

Spar coins are nice. The hats so far aren't. It feels like the shop is a portal to iEra lmao.

Now we just need some incentive for PKing, other than doing it for fun. Milestone rewards would be dope, moreso than a currency reward. PKing is more about the longterm.
(and removing pk milestone kills from profiles would be nice. it doesnt work and makes your stats page look ugly)

Hats weren't bad. I liked them and prices are nice it isn't too hard to get them. I assume the rewards will be updated periodically to continue to encourage long term sparring. I'd suggest
-adding a below 120 ms spar room (streak)
-bringing back milestone hats. 1k, 5k, 10k, 25k, 50k, 100k

Nah I suggest adding a room where it’s only Americans and people who DONT delay. Sorry but who wants to take a coin flip guess on where the person is going to be, in order to hit them? lol

below 120 ms spar room would be only people who dont delay excessively.......

I agree with all of these suggestions. I'd actually feel like fixing my spar stats if these were implemented.

Can we please have a tag team spar room...I will literally make it for you guys X_X

That would be really cool

You can make it so like you send a request to a player to tag team with you if they accept you both join the queue. Its a streak room

Could do it several ways....

The easiest way I can think of is make it a purchase for someones playerhouse/guildhouse. Have the home owner be the only one with the access to open/close the spar entrance, and start the spar. It will let players invite their friends, guilds, etc and divi teams on their own. Make the spar floor 488x322, and the layout like this...Once again I'm willing to level it for you guys or help out in anyway I can.
https://i.imgur.com/VaPHtZU.png

I always thought it would've been fun to implement NPCs that basically just did the same things certain players did but in a different level, like a TV. Then with sparring you could have the NPCs be in the room with the audience and a private level for the spar folk.

Everyone has a lot of spar coins they don’t need to spar anymore to buy any hats in the spar shop, they cab just buy a hat if a new comes out in the spar shop.

For example I have over 600 spar coins I’m pretty sure I never need to spar again for a whole year and can just buy any hats in the spar shop. Now i’m not saying this applies to everyone, but when a nice hat comes out most ppl have enough spar coins to buy it. This is a problem because the main purpose of creating the spar shop is to make sparring more active, just like the first month when it was released. Now all what you have do to is convert your coins to buy a hat when spar shop is updated since you already have enough coins.

So my suggestion is to reset spar coins fragments every season, in addition to refunding the cost of gralats that was paid for spar coins converting.

This is just my opinion, don’t you guys agree that spar shop will barely make a difference to making players spar actively anymore?