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Weeno 03-26-2019 03:54 AM

Change the graphics. It’s not that hard.
 
The games dead and the last time I actually played it was when I was in middle school like two years ago. But look how easy it is to just change up the graphics of the game and make it look better. The trees and clouds were all royalty graphics I found online. All I did was recolor the tiles. And boom look
https://i.postimg.cc/pLwS0nGG/12056-...5-F1573487.png

Rubize 04-05-2019 01:25 AM

I agree

Wolfie 04-05-2019 09:20 PM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 825107)
The games dead and the last time I actually played it was when I was in middle school like two years ago. But look how easy it is to just change up the graphics of the game and make it look better. The trees and clouds were all royalty graphics I found online. All I did was recolor the tiles. And boom look
https://i.postimg.cc/wTsfXrV3/B92186...07-D1-E7-E.png


You’re missing the point. No one has ever said it’s hard to change the tileset.
It takes forever to make one, and Zone has been trying to make a new one since the days Tashkin was Manager.

Shmegg 04-06-2019 07:18 AM

Beauty is only skin deep

Weeno 04-06-2019 08:05 PM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 825257)
You’re missing the point. No one has ever said it’s hard to change the tileset.
It takes forever to make one, and Zone has been trying to make a new one since the days Tashkin was Manager.

Why make a whole new tile set when you can just edit the current one and tweak it a little?. I don’t even do much graphics anymore and my edit looks better than the current zone. Just imagine what the graphics team can do cause zone specializes in editing. Just look at all the squad hats

Rusix 04-06-2019 10:09 PM

Creating tilesets can be extremely time consuming, Especially if you want the tileset to actually be good.

It isn't that Zone, Or any variation of Graal would likely be bothered creating a whole new better tileset and it also would not be difficult at all to implement given how Graal's tilesets work, Hell, I made tilesets for some games I made myself numerous times and it only takes roughly 5 or so days, Depending on the detail and what it is.However there is just a lack of reasoning to do so I'd imagine, Changing the graphics or improving them, Will not make a game more lively and make more people play it. Especially when graphics themselves don't make the game, And are often very opinionated on what is considered good when taking peoples opinion person by person. Zone should likely focus on other, More vital things than just graphic work.

People oftenly start and play games because they are interesting in nature, Not because they are necessarily beautiful graphic wise, Unless the game's content is built upon the graphics which is usually very niche and rare cases, And obviously don't apply to Zone, Or any Graal game. So it wouldn't make Zone "Not dead".

Weeno 04-07-2019 02:04 AM

It seems like Zones been working on their “gameplay” for years now. Least they can do is let the graphics staff have some fun and edit the tile set and make it look better. Cause this game is so dead to a point that even recoloring the current tile set will spice up the game

TWIZ 04-11-2019 07:26 AM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 825257)
You’re missing the point. No one has ever said it’s hard to change the tileset.
It takes forever to make one, and Zone has been trying to make a new one since the days Tashkin was Manager.

I offered to make Zone a new tileset some years ago, and they even had a team working on one at one point as well. It was pretty sh***y, but it was an improvement nonetheless.

I was able to crank out the essentials for a tileset within a couple months working only by myself, and that includes various ground textures, building tiles, bushes, rocks, random objects, etc. It really isn't that hard. I can only imagine what an entire team could do.

GOAT 04-11-2019 11:23 PM

Having a community contest in which players do a collaboration to do a new tile set could be fun.

Perseus 04-11-2019 11:36 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 825419)
Having a community contest in which players do a collaboration to do a new tile set could be fun.

Involve the players??? u crazy

Lets place bets down.
Bet 1: iDelt gets released before Zone is reworked
Bet 2: Zone gets reworked before iDelt is released

GOAT 04-12-2019 03:32 PM

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Posted by Perseus (Post 825420)
Involve the players??? u crazy

Lets place bets down.
Bet 1: iDelt gets released before Zone is reworked
Bet 2: Zone gets reworked before iDelt is released

Bet 3: None of the above

I go with bet 3.
We betting forum rep points or gralats? :blush:

Ivy 04-12-2019 03:36 PM

I miss tashkin

Perseus 04-13-2019 01:06 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 825432)
Bet 3: None of the above

I go with bet 3.
We betting forum rep points or gralats? :blush:

thats a savage diss if i've ever seen one

i'd play zone if it wasnt ugly and dead also corrupt and boring

GOAT 04-13-2019 05:57 PM

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Posted by Perseus (Post 825441)

i'd play zone if it wasnt ugly and dead also corrupt and boring

IDelteria was ugly, dead, corrupt, but I still played. Became the best player, gather the best item/weapon collection, became the best miner and fisher, and my iDelteria trolls were more legendary than my Graalians trolls.

FYI I had a friend that was staff on iDelteria, so I know how much they hated me for being so legendary on their server. Just ask the leader of the 3 princesses.
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Posted by Perseus (Post 825441)

thats a savage diss if i've ever seen one

Not a diss. When you got names like md, blackfries, and symmolism is hard to have faith.

If guys like dusty and fp4 were running iDelteria I would be hyped.
Inb4 the NGS jokes

And as far as zone goes, no comment.

Weeno 04-30-2019 10:15 PM

Not to mention money was actually spent on the upcoming tileset which is stupid. The edit I made is already better than that new tileset that’s coming. It looks like it’s for a cheap pixelated game you would find on y8.com.

TyVERT 06-19-2019 04:27 AM

Zone and content? thats like water and oil they dont mix

Skt A. Sangue 06-22-2019 12:25 AM

Can someone just like, make one? One of the tips they teach you at those "make money by being an advertiser" conferences is that you should make the ad and release it, show the appeal of it, and then demand money for all the people it's already reached + expected to reach.

They won't hire someone to do it because they don't know how the public will react or how long it will take. So go make it, go put out an image (ie. like what Weeno did *it looks awesome bud*) of it online, watch the opinions. Show them that it's needed. Get paid.

I'm probably the person people hate to credit the most on Zone but I firmly believe that if I didn't keep pushing for skybases and the in game forum and whatever else I yelled at the devs for, they would've accepted the changes as positive and eventually people wouldn't have cared and that would've been the end of that progress. Half the issue is making enough of a deal about it. But hey, that's just me. And I'm probably arrogant as heck, whatever. (still upset that Tash banned me from ZonePlay when I was always its most active. #itwouldvesurvivedifiwasallowedonitstill #ibroughtindramaclicks)

So we should start pressuring the good people of Zone to work on it. or any server really.

Why do we wait for administration to do the things we want changed? I mean like look at GIT- man wanted gun changes, made them himself, then became part of the team.

k, that's my rant.




sike, also- i do think that it would attract people. people would at the very least be curious to look at it. i doubt it would convert any new players but it might bring back existing ones. just look at how minecraft is becoming relevant again for living proof of a good comeback. (ps, the best thing on the internet is how minecraft is coming back)

extra sike- i might've meant geno instead of git. idk. both of em were fun to talk and argue with.

MrSimons 06-24-2019 03:41 AM

Creating a new tileset for zone is not a new idea; and has in fact been discussed and worked on by various staff the entire time I've worked for zone.

The issue is that it really is not an easy thing to do. For one person it takes months of effort. For multiple people the problems of synchronization and stylistic differences arise.

Admittedly, Zone has never had a very strong Graphics team. There have certainly been some great artists, but never many at the same time to create a tileset together. The solution to this would seem to be actually paying someone to do this. This however has never gone that well for Graal in my opinion, and leads to future problems where your volunteer artists that compose the graphics team will have trouble mirroring the style of a professionally done tileset.

Ivy 06-24-2019 12:54 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 826437)
Creating a new tileset for zone is not a new idea; and has in fact been discussed and worked on by various staff the entire time I've worked for zone.

The issue is that it really is not an easy thing to do. For one person it takes months of effort. For multiple people the problems of synchronization and stylistic differences arise.

Admittedly, Zone has never had a very strong Graphics team. There have certainly been some great artists, but never many at the same time to create a tileset together. The solution to this would seem to be actually paying someone to do this. This however has never gone that well for Graal in my opinion, and leads to future problems where your volunteer artists that compose the graphics team will have trouble mirroring the style of a professionally done tileset.

that drawing has grown on me over time tbh

Weeno 06-24-2019 07:01 PM

Quote:

Posted by MrSimons (Post 826437)
Creating a new tileset for zone is not a new idea; and has in fact been discussed and worked on by various staff the entire time I've worked for zone.

The issue is that it really is not an easy thing to do. For one person it takes months of effort. For multiple people the problems of synchronization and stylistic differences arise.

Admittedly, Zone has never had a very strong Graphics team. There have certainly been some great artists, but never many at the same time to create a tileset together. The solution to this would seem to be actually paying someone to do this. This however has never gone that well for Graal in my opinion, and leads to future problems where your volunteer artists that compose the graphics team will have trouble mirroring the style of a professionally done tileset.

Well that was kinda the point I was making. Which is why I said the admins should just edit the current tileset. Revamping and tweaking a tileset is so much better.

Meatman204 10-02-2019 08:54 PM

i don't think the effort would be worth it for such a dwindling playerbase to begin with


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