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Aguzo 10-10-2018 06:36 AM

IPCC Special Report on Global Warming
 
Apparently, we have until 2030.

"Global net human-caused emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) would need to fall by about 45 percent from 2010 levels by 2030, reaching 'net zero' around 2050." (IPCC)

here is the press release
http://www.ipcc.ch/news_and_events/p..._P48_spm.shtml


Colin 10-10-2018 03:07 PM

@Mount doesn’t believe in global warming/climate change, someone who’s his friend DM him this thread, let’s see what rebuttal he can come up with (he actually had a mental breakdown when we were arguing the science behind it)

Ark 10-11-2018 12:09 AM

At least mainstream media is actually reporting on it for once ...

Eugeen 10-11-2018 01:20 AM

Interesting but I can’t say that I care much about whether the world goes through some apocalypse or not

TomatoPanda 10-12-2018 04:02 AM

You all do realize the Poles arnt suppose to have ice there in the first place? Were technically still in a Ice Age. Let the ice melt the faster it all melts the sooner we know how much land we really have on earth to live on

Aguzo 10-12-2018 06:52 AM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 819576)
You all do realize the Poles arnt suppose to have ice there in the first place? Were technically still in a Ice Age. Let the ice melt the faster it all melts the sooner we know how much land we really have on earth to live on

The north and south pole have always been colder than the rest of the planet, because they don't get any direct sunlight. Yes, it's been said that at some point these areas weren't covered in ice. I don't believe the problem is that the ice is melting (natural process), but more so the rate at which it's melting, which is said to be an effect of recent rapidity of global warming (due to increased atmospheric CO2 concentration).

Earth could adapt with gradual change, as it always has. However, due to the increased rate at which the planet is warming, it will become challenging for plants, animals, and humans to adapt quickly enough to survive.

Rusix 10-12-2018 10:25 AM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 819576)
You all do realize the Poles arnt suppose to have ice there in the first place? Were technically still in a Ice Age. Let the ice melt the faster it all melts the sooner we know how much land we really have on earth to live on

Of course, Let the sea level raise drastically and take away habitats and areas where animals may live to mess up the entire ecosystem. Flood peoples homes and everything else. Sounds like a plan of a next gen genius

Vendetta 10-12-2018 01:32 PM

Wow, I didn't realise that many people believe climate change is a hoax. Could someone who voted that way explain why? I don't understand how anyone could come to that conclusion after looking at the evidence.

Adrian 10-12-2018 01:43 PM

You should be very stupid to think that climate change is a joke.

Rusix 10-12-2018 04:16 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 819582)
Wow, I didn't realise that many people believe climate change is a hoax. Could someone who voted that way explain why? I don't understand how anyone could come to that conclusion after looking at the evidence.

Basically same reason why there is still people who think the world is flat. There is idiots, Idiots everywhere

Vendetta 10-12-2018 05:23 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 819584)
Basically same reason why there is still people who think the world is flat. There is idiots, Idiots everywhere

Yeah I do get that, but more than 20% of people voted that they thought it was a hoax. That's a crazy amount of delusional people, no?

Pokki 10-12-2018 06:53 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 819585)
Yeah I do get that, but more than 20% of people voted that they thought it was a hoax. That's a crazy amount of delusional people, no?

trolling or joking

MrSimons 10-16-2018 08:27 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 819585)
Yeah I do get that, but more than 20% of people voted that they thought it was a hoax. That's a crazy amount of delusional people, no?

Pretty sure POTUS, VPOTUS, and a ton of other high level members of the US govt dont "believe" in climate change...

Colin 10-17-2018 04:20 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 819735)
Pretty sure POTUS, VPOTUS, and a ton of other high level members of the US govt dont "believe" in climate change...

Yeah the last Prime Minister of Canada didn’t, he actually tried to pass a bill that classified climate change/global warming protests as terrorism, and that they were unlawfully causing fear to other Canadians

TomatoPanda 10-17-2018 03:37 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 819735)
Pretty sure POTUS, VPOTUS, and a ton of other high level members of the US govt dont "believe" in climate change...

Trump and Pompeo believe in it they just know
that theres NOTHING that can be done to stop it. Only way to stop it is if All of Europe, China, India, America, Japan and Russia all sat down and said lets do something about this and even if we did sit down and did something about it the poles would still be melting but we may be able to get ourselves maybe another 30 years lol. Thats why im all for the poles to melt so we can get this over with. Yes some species of animals are gonna go extinct because of this and yes many people even may die and deffently going to lose their homes, but there is nothing that can be done that everyone would agree to.

Colin 10-17-2018 06:29 PM

Sort of like an extremely really stupid argument, Tomato Panda.

Not even going to bother breaking it all down, but one of the most important points would be that 30 years is a lot in terms of technological and scientific advancements. Can’t really state nothing can be done, as long as people are trying then the proper advancements will be made in fields that benefit the solution to climate change/global warming.

If your solution to a problem is get it over with because eventually it will happen (maybe), I guess you should end your life now. (not telling you to kill yourself but that’s basically the level of argument you made)

MrSimons 10-17-2018 06:58 PM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 819779)
Trump and Pompeo believe in it they just know
that theres NOTHING that can be done to stop it. Only way to stop it is if All of Europe, China, India, America, Japan and Russia all sat down and said lets do something about this and even if we did sit down and did something about it the poles would still be melting but we may be able to get ourselves maybe another 30 years lol. Thats why im all for the poles to melt so we can get this over with. Yes some species of animals are gonna go extinct because of this and yes many people even may die and deffently going to lose their homes, but there is nothing that can be done that everyone would agree to.

Well that's just not true. POTUS has repeatedly called climate change a hoax, pulled the US out of the Paris Climate Accords, and assisted in cutting back on the EPA... and has literally said "I don't believe in climate change"

To be fair his opinion on it seems to be incredibly inconsistent and has blamed either the Chinese, Obama, or "Science" on climate change being a hoax. Most recently I think he has said that he simply believes we cant prove humans have an effect on the climate. But I wouldn't consider his word the most reliable indicator as to what he is thinking.

It also seems you don't really understand the full extent of how badly climate change is going to screw humans over in the next several decades, its not just ice caps disappearing, coastlines flooding, fish dying. The climate will keep changing after all that happens, at what point then do we need to start taking action to clean up our ****ty habits that are very likely going kill us at some point.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5-lDJWCUAAwfya.jpg

GOAT 10-22-2018 02:33 AM

Fake news

Ark 10-22-2018 03:51 AM

I'm sure POTUS, his administration, and most conservative politicians do believe in climate change and not that's it's some "Chinese hoax." They just say that to please their largest financial donors, who are some of the top greenhouse gas emitters. They're sabotaging all life on Earth just to make a quick buck.

Just 100 companies create 71% of all greenhouse gas emmisions on Earth.

MrSimons 10-23-2018 04:49 PM

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Posted by Ark (Post 820035)
I'm sure POTUS, his administration, and most conservative politicians do believe in climate change and not that's it's some "Chinese hoax." They just say that to please their largest financial donors, who are some of the top greenhouse gas emitters. They're sabotaging all life on Earth just to make a quick buck.

Just 100 companies create 71% of all greenhouse gas emmisions on Earth.

While I agree with your logic there, and that a lot of what these people say is to appeal to their voters and donors-- I don't think there's a lot of evidence that these people really understand the issue, or the actual dangers climate change poses (politicians are pretty uneducated on most issues they push for). Plus when you have a cabinet lined with the "yes-men" that POTUS has appointed, its unlikely that he is being fed any actual information about the issue.

TomatoPanda 10-31-2018 01:53 PM

If you climate change people can somehow convince the rest of the world to stop pollution then I believe President Trump would give you a min of his time but untill then do not expect the united states to take its citizens jobs away while the rest of the world just keeps on polluting. If you honestly believe the united states can stop this by themselves with regulations then your crazy especially when china are the ones polluting the most.

Republicans are not the only ones doing policy for its rich donors the Democrats are just as guilty if not worse. The Republicans used to be the party for the middle class man till the 19th century then the Democrats were during JFK. After they both became partys for the rich man and only recently with President Trump do we have a president that is for the middle class again which I believe is trying to fix both the partys. If you believe the Republican party is the same it used to be 2-3 years ago then your watching to many cnn documentarys and you need to get out more.

Vendetta 10-31-2018 08:10 PM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 820559)
If you climate change people can somehow convince the rest of the world to stop pollution then I believe President Trump would give you a min of his time but untill then do not expect the united states to take its citizens jobs away while the rest of the world just keeps on polluting. If you honestly believe the united states can stop this by themselves with regulations then your crazy especially when china are the ones polluting the most.

The United States can't stop it by themselves, no one believes that. That is why it requires all countries to come together and agree to lower CO2 emissions... Which is more or less what we had with the Paris Agreement before Trump withdrew. Every single country in the world has signed the accord now, yet you're arguing that the rest of the world are the ones who need convincing? I don't think so.

TomatoPanda 10-31-2018 09:38 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 820574)
The United States can't stop it by themselves, no one believes that. That is why it requires all countries to come together and agree to lower CO2 emissions...Which is more or less what we had with the Paris Agreement before Trump withdrew. Every single country in the world has signed the accord now, yet you're arguing that the rest of the world are the ones who need convincing? I don't think so.

The Paris Climate agreement was useless cause every country got to decide its own limit on CO2 emissions. All it was made for was to make libs like you that dont read the agreement and just read the cnn articles happy.

Vendetta 11-02-2018 11:05 AM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 820577)
The Paris Climate agreement was useless cause every country got to decide its own limit on CO2 emissions.

Yes, but they had to be ambitious targets. This allowed countries to set realistic and achievable goals. It was by no means perfect, but was was a stepping-stone by getting countries moving in the right direction. Even if every country meets their targets, there will still be much further to go. It's just clearly a better solution than having no formal agreement.

MrSimons 12-02-2018 10:48 AM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 820559)
If you climate change people can somehow convince the rest of the world to stop pollution then I believe President Trump would give you a min of his time but untill then do not expect the united states to take its citizens jobs away while the rest of the world just keeps on polluting. If you honestly believe the united states can stop this by themselves with regulations then your crazy especially when china are the ones polluting the most.

Oh look at that, 19 of the leaders at the G20 have said that Climate Change is an issue that needs to be fought...

I'll let you all guess who the lone wolf there was.


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