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Raege 07-24-2018 01:12 PM

Top 25 all time gsers
 
Top 25 all time gsers
This list is based off core gst wins, streaks, performances, team win with ability.

1. Thallen
2. Sarah
3. Dante
4. Abood
5. David
6. Ares
7. Prado
8. Eko
9. Dark
10. Alexx
11. Shiden
12. Shaheen
13. Skull
14. Fro
15. Hazo
16. Kouji
17. Aguzo
18. Kicko
19. Vlad
20. Brett
21. Noss
22. 7Mood
23. Sw@nk
24. Comyt
25. Kuya Gabe (Pinoy!!!)

Skyte 07-24-2018 02:07 PM

Are you inviting them to a Graal: Infinity war, and against thanos (Bad admins)

Westbrook Graal 07-24-2018 03:30 PM

your list seems p good, i disagree with a few. i think brett is the best 1v1 sparrer ever but overrated at GS because of his 1v1 skill. Putting him below kicko and haze(?????) too low though, he's still really good. i'd put zideuric and exalt in there. both are insanely good as well.

Not sure if they'd be top 25; but iHercules, Primetime, Aguzo, Brandon, Abel, Nayo, DannSS, Zion, Shadz, Dues, Faded, Andrei, Adi, Rusty, Exalt, Crono are all people I'd love to have on a team with me.

Not going to call anyone out, but I don't think it's fair to rank people we've confirmed are cheaters unless we rank them as they are without their cheats. I won't accuse anyone of hacking but it seems pretty obvious vix, jimbo, rexx, pazkez etc; use VPNs (tell me if i'm wrong and i'll correct) so rating them at all kinda seems stupid to me.

These type of top25 lists will usually contain the same groups of people but where they get ranked comes down to bias a lot of times.

Pokki 07-24-2018 05:26 PM

i’m laughing because westbrook isn’t in there lol

Basi 07-24-2018 05:26 PM

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Posted by Skyte (Post 815844)
Are you inviting them to a Graal: Infinity war, and against thanos (Bad admins)

*snap*

Mount 07-24-2018 06:54 PM

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Posted by Pokki (Post 815858)
i’m laughing because westbrook isn’t in there lol

hahahahahaaahahaha good one pokki!! hahahahahahahahahahahah hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha so funny !!! hahahaha

GOAT 07-24-2018 10:19 PM

1. Fulgore
2. Darkk
3. Doublelift
4. Ruxis
5. Qes
6. Guzano
7. Simple-EZ
8. Imprint
9. Demrow
10. Comet

Comyt 07-25-2018 01:13 AM

well right now it’s 1. me then it gets a little blurry after that since everyone performs equally as poor against me, hard for me to judge.

Westbrook Graal 07-25-2018 01:24 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 815889)
well right now it’s 1. me then it gets a little blurry after that since everyone performs equally as poor against me, hard for me to judge.


I won't let this devolve into another flame war, but at best you're roxas with lower IQ and more comedic value

Comyt 07-25-2018 01:31 AM

way to ruin it bro i'm just posting bait but you biting on it isn't a good enough pull

obviously i disagree with this list as i know that i am better than most of the players listed even at my worst, but since the author of this thread is a newer player who doesn't have any experience with or against me, i can let it slide. aside from that there are some listed who should not even be considered in a top 100, let alone top 25, and the absence of players like NiTe just shows his unfamiliarity with the older players.

in all seriousness, from the idevice perspective, it would probably go 1. me 2. kouji 3. sarah using his criteria. best at any single moment would have eddy in at least the idevice top 5, but he would probably be lower half of the top 25 in a list like this.

still interesting to see the perspective of a 2016 player (?) but i would be more interested in seeing a list that only includes a timeframe that he has witnessed, where my name should not be present.

Westbrook Graal 07-25-2018 01:42 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 815893)
way to ruin it bro i'm just posting bait but you biting on it isn't a good enough pull

obviously i disagree with this list as i know that i am better than most of the players listed even at my worst, but since the author of this thread is a newer player who doesn't have any experience with or against me, i can let it slide. aside from that there are some listed who should not even be considered in a top 100, let alone top 25, and the absence of players like NiTe just shows his unfamiliarity with the older players.

in all seriousness, from the idevice perspective, it would probably go 1. me 2. kouji 3. sarah using his criteria. best at any single moment would have eddy in at least the idevice top 5, but he would probably be lower half of the top 25 in a list like this.

still interesting to see the perspective of a 2016 player (?) but i would be more interested in seeing a list that only includes a timeframe that he has witnessed, where my name should not be present.

Your name would be present for sparrers in the old era where C sparring made you pro and everybody boosted at li's dojo. Your name would not be present anywhere post "people know what blink is and have a basic grasp of spar fundamentals now"

It's not the same for your teammates like ares, brett, shiden, winter etc; though because they've shown dominance in more competitive scenes. Nothing biased against you, i just think you're basically a crimestopper type "rush really hard and die fast but get 7 hits and blame my teammates" player and in todays wall + push delay meta (for idevice anyways) that wont work

Comyt 07-25-2018 01:44 AM

ah yes you're right it took 10 years for the community to learn the functions of a 5-button game that has been out for many years before app store release..... next challenger please.

Westbrook Graal 07-25-2018 01:47 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 815896)
ah yes you're right it took 10 years for the community to learn the functions of a 5-button game that has been out for many years before app store release..... next challenger please.

I haven't bothered to "challenge" you and you haven't won any "battles" either, but if it suits your ego to pretend you're kicking my ass on an online forum for a

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Posted by Comyt (Post 815896)
5-button game

then i'll let you take your pretend W. Not like you've seen many of those in the 1v1 spar room recently in your many attempts to "break your streak record"

next challenger please? or are there emotionally stable people who'd like to carry a conversation without trying to make it weird and argumentative

Comyt 07-25-2018 01:59 AM

??????????
forums need a ResidentSleeper emote

well anyways for anybody willing to attempt to flatten my ego or make me eat my words or w/e i will definitely be guildsparring often for these next few days. this will be a rare chance for current players to get the best of an "irrelevant sparrer who can't perform in 2018" so please entertain me. it's still a 5-button game so don't get discouraged after i win MVP vs. your team 5 times in a row, you will beat me eventually. if you hate my overconfidence, your best chance at lowering it would be to give me a reason in-game rather than typing back to me and making this thread any more cringe than we've already made it, including this post. see you in the arena. :)



late addition: while this top 25 post is extremely inaccurate i would include hmong flames, who would be on the lower end probably around 20-25 but was a solid player during his time here.

Westbrook Graal 07-25-2018 02:13 AM

Don't plan on participating in gst you dont need to throw subliminal messages at me and act like youre gonna mvp on my team or something,

but yeah.... I logged on sometime earlier to check who was even gsing. It's very impressive that you can MVP 5x on the likes of GST 2018 BRAZIL and kulture

Comyt 07-25-2018 02:19 AM

not subliminal towards you at all, i don't consider you or whatever first round exit team you assemble to be a challenge. and good job listing the two worst guilds in the room but i'll continue playing well against ALL teams during their practicing, anyone is welcome to prove me wrong. see me in-game or keep doing what you do best and try to defeat me through typing because lord knows it isn't happening in the battle arena. maybe you and mount can team up and diagnose me with mental disorders for fun, doesn't accomplish anything but i'm sure somebody out there would be interested in reading it. me, i'll be guildsparring.

Mount 07-25-2018 02:26 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 815901)
not subliminal towards you at all, i don't consider you or whatever first round exit team you assemble to be a challenge. and good job listing the two worst guilds in the room but i'll continue playing well against ALL teams during their practicing, anyone is welcome to prove me wrong. see me in-game or keep doing what you do best and try to defeat me through typing because lord knows it isn't happening in the battle arena. maybe you and mount can team up and diagnose me with mental disorders for fun, doesn't accomplish anything but i'm sure somebody out there would be interested in reading it. me, i'll be guildsparring.

LOL

Comyt 07-25-2018 02:30 AM

i'm gonna be thoroughly disappointed if i put this much effort into this thread and i don't see at least one mental diagnosis or lil uzi vert/6ix9ine youtube video while you guys jerk each other off, please don't let me down.

Westbrook Graal 07-25-2018 02:32 AM

Sounds good to me, if i bother to log on maybe i'll play ping pong with you like the DoT B team did and make you have another emotional breakdown, causing you to log 1000 hours on noob accs named "trevor" for the rest of the year. I didn't bother to check who was actually in the room, but I saw you facing dues and his little brother in a 5v2. Congrats on your MVP comet, really impressive.

Comyt 07-25-2018 02:34 AM

literally 0/3 on everything in your paragraph, at least the old 2018 trolling strategy of "type nonsense and hope it offends the target" is still in effect but i'm waiting for a youtube video.

Rusix 07-25-2018 02:41 AM

And people wonder why sparrers wouldn't make good admins... Can thread go back on topic? Every spar thread always ends up in a childish flame war. Glad I quit major sparring back in 2014 before it became like this

Westbrook Graal 07-25-2018 02:43 AM

Not really trolling, just giving you my attention because thats what you clearly crave when you make unfunny "bait attempts" by saying "I'm the #1 gser." If you think anyone cares about the opinion of a guy who's lost to the trilogy of DoT, jimbo and monster energy in consecutive seasons, you're severely mistaken. But yeah, if it makes you feel better I'm 0-3 on you and everything I say is supposed to hurt your feelings. Weirdo

Comyt 07-25-2018 02:50 AM

it's times like these where i actually can't tell if this is an elaborate poor trolling process or you actually believe what you are typing, but i lean towards the trolling option to give you the benefit of the doubt

Thallen 07-25-2018 02:50 AM

I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe Ares is 14 ranks above Brett at GS, I think they're about even
He's won a lot more though but that was during a completely different time

Comyt 07-25-2018 02:58 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 815913)
I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe Ares is 14 ranks above Brett at GS, I think they're about even

i agree somewhat although prado should definitely stay up there, these players are great single sparrers but it doesn't translate all the way over.

also swnk and haze shouldn't even be on an unbiased list, haze is a friend but players like EP and greenarrow from his own (mi5e) team, which is probably around his peak, were better than him by a good amount.

also to throw in another old player, yui/izumi should be on a list like this, she was the first sarah.

Mount 07-25-2018 03:04 AM


super kurosaki 07-25-2018 07:34 AM

kouji one of the most versatile gsers in graal history

Crono 07-25-2018 11:15 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 815908)
And people wonder why sparrers wouldn't make good admins...

No one wonders that. The admin that brought you GST was a sparrer.

NoxPower 07-25-2018 11:25 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 815927)
No one wonders that. The admin that brought you GST was a sparrer.

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Roll-Safe-Think-About-It.jpg

Saeed 07-25-2018 01:15 PM

I would put Eko in the 3rd place then Abood (if he is not always rusty) then Dante etc.
At least 10 people shouldn’t be on that list because there r a lot of ppl who deserve to be on that list more than they do.

DoubleliftGraal 07-25-2018 11:26 PM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 815900)
Don't plan on participating in gst you dont need to throw subliminal messages at me and act like youre gonna mvp on my team or something,

but yeah.... I logged on sometime earlier to check who was even gsing. It's very impressive that you can MVP 5x on the likes of GST 2018 BRAZIL and kulture

Yes you did plan on participating in GST. I hear that you asked sparrers to join your gst lol.

Rusix 07-25-2018 11:58 PM

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Posted by DoubleliftGraal (Post 815952)
Yes you did plan on participating in GST. I hear that you asked sparrers to join your gst lol.

I can confirm this, I actually took a screenshot when he did. Because he actually asked me(No idea why considering I haven't majorly sparred in years since I delay and i can't rush spar like I used to back then and I don't even care for GST). I declined him like 3 times and offered to help get him people so he'd leave me be, Though this was like a few months back or so. Not sure if it's normal for him to beg for members.

GOAT 07-27-2018 01:31 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 815908)
And people wonder why sparrers wouldn't make good admins... Can thread go back on topic? Every spar thread always ends up in a childish flame war. Glad I quit major sparring back in 2014 before it became like this

Happy now?

Thread went back to the topic and it died. BIG SURPRISE


Comet and Westbook were pumping some narcan into graalians. For a minute I felt the momentum shifting to more posting. :”””(

As far as the topic
Jerry/Goten and players like him that have taken their team with unknown sparers to the title should be recognized a little bit more instead of the usual pi pi riding.



i only know what narcan is because of the frozen broad that od

Zetectic 07-27-2018 02:31 AM

1. list is barely different from 2013-2017 best sparrer lists.
2. any new faces (not in this thread) that rose up, first thing in my head is, most of them started out in siderooms losing to me years ago..
I am sure it's the reason why comyt always misses US players, and doesn't really recognize people who came after.

Westbrook Graal 07-27-2018 03:26 PM

It's true, indeed. Our teams original plan was to replace 2x gst champ Exalt with rubix, but rubix told us "sorry i'm gonna core for my graal gfs gst team its called GST 2018 BRAZIL" so we had to find a diff replacement. Unfortunately CPU was actually the only sparrer available, there was legit no one else or we would have taken them.

Comyt 07-27-2018 05:00 PM

let’s be real the only reason people read these threads is for the flame wars and raege told me he only created this thread to start flame wars before i even replied to it, satisfying his wishes. if the derailing of a thread really bothers you that much then stop reading spar threads, we do this for sport.

also the original creator of this thread (dark, probably) shouldn’t even be top 25 (9??? lol) if we’re really considering overall placements as the post says. we’re acting like he never went through an impressive streak of trying really hard, raging like no other, and not placing on (vDragz) many times in a row before finally joining teams that have already proven their ability to win without his help.

Darkk 08-31-2018 01:08 AM

Just reading the forums now. Lets refrain ourselves from speculating and use the criteria provided. Probs a dozen of devs who outrank Comet. Likely just as many pc players

Sarah, Abood, Fro, Alexx, Shaheen, Myself, Vlad, Kicko, Shiden, Kouji, 7mood, Nestuah, Haze, Acqua, Mr Loly, Phural, etc (in order)

Based off the criteria of wins, streaks n performances this looks accurate. I’ll assume “team win with” refers to the quality of the wins. Not to mention that Comet won only once without an already winning team (US)

I think it’s difficult to rank the top whatever all time due to the different eras. Year-by-year would have far less disputes

Comyt 08-31-2018 01:35 AM

js never placing worse than 2nd with teams i’ve assembled myself just seems a lot better than someone who led his own guild to at least 5 straight non-placements before teaming up with alumni and/or sage members then going on the cringiest “3peat lol” ego trip ever witnessed

or you can disregard that and flame me for losing early on rosters where i can’t even name 3 other players, as if my inactive college-time gst entries are the most accurate representation of my whole graal history

but i’m sure you’re just troll posting and know better deep inside, losing seemed to have humbled you for a bit but welcome back to your delusional ways, drama in the spar community is much needed and i look forward to your continued contribution

Darkk 08-31-2018 01:52 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 817455)
js never placing worse than 2nd with teams i’ve assembled myself just seems a lot better than someone who led his own guild to at least 5 straight non-placements before teaming up with alumni and/or sage members then going on the cringiest “3peat lol” ego trip ever witnessed

or you can disregard that and flame me for losing early on rosters where i can’t even name 3 other players, as if my inactive college-time gst entries are the most accurate representation of my whole graal history

but i’m sure you’re just troll posting and know better deep inside, losing seemed to have humbled you for a bit but welcome back to your delusional ways, drama in the spar community is much needed and i look forward to your continued contribution

You never won until you teamed up with US and won once without them, not impressive at all. I won before joining a 'super team.' Those sage members all went negative in the finals I got 3/3 finals mvps, without me they are all still 1 hit wonders lol

I’ve placed in like 12/15 gsts btw (probably approaching a 50% win ratio if i cared to continue)

Comyt 08-31-2018 02:22 AM

what, do you want me to apologize for getting recruited to the best guild in the game after two gsts while on a 2nd generation ipod touch at a time when everyone else was using a 4g? you’re only helping my case lol i appreciate it

meanwhile you struggled as a mediocre sparrer for so long before getting recruited to a winning team entirely because of the perceived value behind an australian flag. remind me why absolutely nobody was typing your name in any “top 20 sparrers” threads as even an honorable mention.

we aren’t cut from the same cloth and it’s not even close

Darkk 08-31-2018 02:56 AM

You didn’t win prior to joining US, lets not ignore that and cover it up with some side story of bs excuses. I won before joining my ‘super team’ unlike you

Well mediocre me got a finals mvp vs Alumni mixed, who else has even achieved that? Meanwhile on my team GOAT pc sparrer Ares was averaging 1 hit per spar making it near impossible for me to have a chance. Supporting cast is everything come gst, I never really struggled - I just had no chance of winning with the likes of Ttt, Haze and Jose as teammates

Idk maybe because I didn’t play/spar around the time of any top 20 threads lol.

Comyt 08-31-2018 03:11 AM

i don't believe any team won besides US idev side between their creation and my joining them, that's my bad lol i didn't accomplish something that literally no other team or player accomplished. speaking of achievements/accomplishments you're literally arguing with somebody who accomplished at the age of 14 years old what you grinded 5+ years to finally attain lol. you aren't going to beat me in an e-peen flexing battle bro

Darkk 08-31-2018 03:23 AM

2-3 years* Cant even meme me now with people actually taking 5+ yrs (primetime, jimbo, den etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xDLKsShAiQ Compare this 2014 finals vs any 2016-18’ one. When US idev was winning it would have looked even less coordinated/easier than 2014. I wouldn't be bragging about that at all. Yikes

If one of todays lower tier team like Male or Honour was to enter the 2014 gst, they would win. Simply because they hold a wall, push and spar together

Comyt 08-31-2018 03:27 AM

not watching that because viewing room is laggy cancer and honestly u can't compare two different metas in the US-era offensive juggernaut vs. today's form two walls and spam air until enemy buckles

Darkk 08-31-2018 03:33 AM


Comet getting pushed into a corner by a DoT member (offensive juggernaut US member BTW). I delay and I'm more offensive than you (in an era where 99% of people back peddle n spam)

I don't even see a glimpse of offence here, you literally just run and deploy the pkun/memo corner strat

Comyt 08-31-2018 03:42 AM

looks to me like i was freezing in place for the entire match and giving enemy free hit as a result of that lag and again this is an inactive me in college AKA the only argument you ever have, you never fail to let me down lol

gets so cringe to the point where you're literally uploading youtube videos of me sparring

Darkk 08-31-2018 04:26 AM

We move in 8 directions and swing a sword. Being inactive should play 0 factor into this, especially considering you have 70k (?) spar wins...

Only argument I need is that any subpar team today would beat the “US offensive juggernaut” team in their prime lmao

GOAT 08-31-2018 05:24 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 817468)
We move in 8 directions and swing a sword. Being inactive should play 0 factor into this, especially considering you have 70k (?) spar wins...

Just have to disagree in general. Anybody that has been inactive will tell you it does affect it somewhat. There’s also the mentality. When you finally get tired of Graal and just play it casually you will see both sides of the coin.

Not getting in between this cat fight just disagree with that statement

Comyt 08-31-2018 05:58 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 817468)
Only argument I need is that any subpar team today would beat the “US offensive juggernaut” team in their prime lmao

loooool kouji/me/nite/eddy/yui that's surely mediocre

"#19" vlad in a sub spot but garbage team subpar

Fulgore 08-31-2018 06:09 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 817462)
Meanwhile on my team GOAT pc sparrer Ares was averaging 1 hit per spar making it near impossible for me to have a chance.

made me laugh given the other thread + accuracy of this throughout the last 4 or so years whenever he enters


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