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Macbeth 06-06-2018 08:52 PM

Account sharing/purchasing
 
So I was hoping to get some information about this. Went by train station today and saw a group of players bragging about how they purchased/shared their accounts. I had believed that such actions weren’t allowed in graal, so I reported them and then PMd an admin. Nothing was done and the players are still doing the same actions.
Has this rule been changed? Or does it only account for certain things?

Rusix 06-06-2018 09:35 PM

Honestly, I don't think it matters if you share your account. As long as it isn't for competitive reasons. That's what I believe anyway. Graal also somewhat implies through words of like "Be careful who you let on your account" and so on. Not "don't let anyone on your account for any reason" . I don't know about account selling. But as far as I know it you wanna let someone on your account and you trust them it's ok, as long as it isn't for competitive reasons. Probably was against the rules at some point but people share accounts actively anymore. Even i let my friends on my account time to time to have fun with it.

Macbeth 06-06-2018 09:44 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 813174)
Honestly, I don't think it matters if you share your account. As long as it isn't for competitive reasons. That's what I believe anyway. Graal also somewhat implies through words of like "Be careful who you let on your account" and so on. Not "don't let anyone on your account for any reason" . I don't know about account selling. But as far as I know it you wanna let someone on your account and you trust them it's ok, as long as it isn't for competitive reasons. Probably was against the rules at some point but people share accounts actively anymore. Even i let my friends on my account time to time to have fun with it.

I mean. There’s a difference between having someone you know use your personal device to play on your account. It’s another thing to have someone purchasing your account or giving your account to someone else so that they can use it while evading a ban (that was what these players were doing).

Crono 06-06-2018 09:55 PM

Account sharing and such has generally been a bannable offense since the old PC days. I don't think sharing is that big of a deal (so long as it isn't for events like GST and such) but buying/selling accounts is something that is discouraged and punished to protect people.

Westbrook Graal 06-06-2018 09:59 PM

Was this by any chance a guy named Muzak? he came to battle arena onetime looking to buy an account, not too long after he had a pretty old account with decent stats/hats and stuff so i assumed he bought it. Saw the same "muzak" guy constantly on new accounts after that, probably total 4-6. 1 or 2 of them had nothing retro but good spar stats so i assume he bought them to act like he was good in spar

Sir Travis 06-06-2018 10:15 PM

You used to be able to google “graal online classic code of conduct”

But uh, I don’t think it works anymore

If graalians is now the official forum, can someone post that here please? It used to be on the old graal online website.... like the one that always said “5000 players online!” And had the blue background

That thing never steered me wrong and even had a special sub section for beastiality (I should have screenshot it when I had the chance) Damn fine piece of literature

Jarace 06-06-2018 10:23 PM

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Posted by Sir Travis (Post 813182)
You used to be able to google “graal online classic code of conduct”

But uh, I don’t think it works anymore

If graalians is now the official forum, can someone post that here please? It used to be on the old graal online website.... like the one that always said “5000 players online!” And had the blue background

That thing never steered me wrong and even had a special sub section for beastiality (I should have screenshot it when I had the chance) Damn fine piece of literature

This? https://www.graalonline.com/docs/conduct

Account trading of any form is not allowed. Account sharing for competitive reasons is not allowed, either. If you have someone you suspect of doing either as you say you do, feel free to message me and I can take a look.

The iClassic rules are available in the FAQ building if you'd like to take a look.

Sir Travis 06-06-2018 10:25 PM

That’s the one! That thing is priceless :D but it works like a charm

Rusix 06-06-2018 11:07 PM

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Posted by Jarace (Post 813186)
This? https://www.graalonline.com/docs/conduct

Account trading of any form is not allowed. Account sharing for competitive reasons is not allowed, either. If you have someone you suspect of doing either as you say you do, feel free to message me and I can take a look.

The iClassic rules are available in the FAQ building if you'd like to take a look.

Is account sharing for non-competitive reasons allowed?

Crono 06-06-2018 11:17 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 813190)
Is account sharing for non-competitive reasons allowed?

I mean, I doubt you'd get banned if your buddy logs on and idles at Burger Refuge. It's still not encouraged.

Fulgore 06-07-2018 01:03 AM

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Posted by Jarace (Post 813186)
This? https://www.graalonline.com/docs/conduct

Account trading of any form is not allowed. Account sharing for competitive reasons is not allowed, either. If you have someone you suspect of doing either as you say you do, feel free to message me and I can take a look.

The iClassic rules are available in the FAQ building if you'd like to take a look.

Expect several messages from me on the day of every GST from this point forward cause people have done it the past 2 seasons, one of which causing a team to win where half of the players were doing this.

Zetectic 06-07-2018 02:57 AM

just gather up enough evidences and report them. *poof* their acct are perm gone. lol
admins doesn't witch hunt, but when they find one, they do it right afaik.

Dmitri 06-07-2018 03:05 AM

I highly doubt you can get banned for having your buddy log on and gain hours or talk to people at graal city but you probably will get banned for having them use your account for competitve gameplay.

4-Lom 06-07-2018 06:39 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 813196)
Expect several messages from me on the day of every GST from this point forward cause people have done it the past 2 seasons, one of which causing a team to win where half of the players were doing this.

I've seen folks get banned for PK and BK leaderboard antics doing the 24/7 account trade off. It's super obvious when their flag changes every day...

Westbrook Graal 06-07-2018 09:08 PM

Agreed. Sharing accounts for competitive purposes is completely irresponsible, disgusting, and frankly nauseating. Anyone who does this needs to be put to justice,

DoubleliftGraal 06-08-2018 01:38 AM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 813228)
Agreed. Sharing accounts for competitive purposes is completely irresponsible, disgusting, and frankly nauseating. Anyone who does this needs to be put to justice,

You're guilty of that along with your Pure Luck GST teammates. SO that means u should be put to justice xD

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Posted by Macbeth (Post 813173)
So I was hoping to get some information about this. Went by train station today and saw a group of players bragging about how they purchased/shared their accounts. I had believed that such actions weren’t allowed in graal, so I reported them and then PMd an admin. Nothing was done and the players are still doing the same actions.
Has this rule been changed? Or does it only account for certain things?

50%+ of graalians have done this in ABSOLUTE secrecy. ALmost no one has been IP banned because the motives behind this was harmless. Just don't hack or use it for competitive benefits and you'll be fine.

Asaiki 06-08-2018 08:44 AM

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Posted by DoubleliftGraal (Post 813245)
50%+ of graalians have done this in ABSOLUTE secrecy. ALmost no one has been IP banned because the motives behind this was harmless. Just don't hack or use it for competitive benefits and you'll be fine.

This is true. My ex-boyfriend used to log-in into my account to buy me gralats.

Meteor 06-08-2018 08:51 AM

lol

Reggie* 06-08-2018 10:02 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 813224)
I've seen folks get banned for PK and BK leaderboard antics doing the 24/7 account trade off. It's super obvious when their flag changes every day...

Thats why, you should just be American ;)

Macbeth 06-08-2018 05:00 PM

I just find it odd how players who PURCHASE their accounts are getting away with it. It’s not as much about purchasing something on another persons account, or letting another player use it (close friend or relative). It’s more that these players are actually trying to buy/sell their accounts in-game or through things like discord. Either way, it’s completely ridiculous, as they did not put in the time and effort for the items and stats (especially in the case of the certain player who purchased it for GST items and a towering hat).

Master Shredder 06-10-2018 08:09 PM

Account selling is not allowed. You are not supposed to be trying to sell your account on graal. Someone quitting may have sold their account outside of graal yes.

Honestly if someone who quits graal sells their account to someone and the admins figure it out, unlocking shouldn't even be the punishment. bit actively selling on graal is reasonable as a ban/unlink. Especially scammers

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Posted by Macbeth (Post 813268)
I just find it odd how players who PURCHASE their accounts are getting away with it. It’s not as much about purchasing something on another persons account, or letting another player use it (close friend or relative). It’s more that these players are actually trying to buy/sell their accounts in-game or through things like discord. Either way, it’s completely ridiculous, as they did not put in the time and effort for the items and stats (especially in the case of the certain player who purchased it for GST items and a towering hat).

I bought my era from my 23 year old brother. Ban me for continuing his basing/sparring legacy then. I see no fault with buying a quitters account. Graal is based in a Capitalist Country. But yes if someone is trading and buying accounts just for competitive advantages then indeed unlink them for being a scumbag. But if you had the chance to get a 2010 players account for $50 I'd do it for the rare items, not for the competitive advantage. Anyways if it's been bought Everyone can tell it's not the original person anymore. I'm sorry but I'm kind of annoyed that you are complaining about us getting away with buying accounts that are going to just become completely unused from someone quitting. unless I guess if it's purchasing to share then ban hammer

People like Ezio on the other hand should be ip banned. Buying accounts just to scam gullible people

Eugeen 06-11-2018 11:34 AM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 813364)
Account selling is not allowed. You are not supposed to be trying to sell your account on graal. Someone quitting may have sold their account outside of graal yes.

Honestly if someone who quits graal sells their account to someone and the admins figure it out, unlocking shouldn't even be the punishment. bit actively selling on graal is reasonable as a ban/unlink. Especially scammers


I bought my era from my 23 year old brother. Ban me for continuing his basing/sparring legacy then. I see no fault with buying a quitters account. Graal is based in a Capitalist Country. But yes if someone is trading and buying accounts just for competitive advantages then indeed unlink them for being a scumbag. But if you had the chance to get a 2010 players account for $50 I'd do it for the rare items, not for the competitive advantage. Anyways if it's been bought Everyone can tell it's not the original person anymore. I'm sorry but I'm kind of annoyed that you are complaining about us getting away with buying accounts that are going to just become completely unused from someone quitting. unless I guess if it's purchasing to share then ban hammer

People like Ezio on the other hand should be ip banned. Buying accounts just to scam gullible people

Sad if true lmao

Ezio 06-11-2018 08:41 PM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 813364)
People like Ezio on the other hand should be ip banned. Buying accounts just to scam gullible people

Hold up, I havnt bought an account or scammed anyone. In fact I havnt played in over a year!

Cxll 06-15-2018 02:07 AM

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Posted by Ezio (Post 813429)
Hold up, I havnt bought an account or scammed anyone. In fact I havnt played in over a year!


Aha

Rusix 06-15-2018 03:59 AM

Freaking Ezio man just buying all these accounts and scamming people. Let's just try to drown him in holy water to get the devil out of him! who does he think he is?

Westbrook Graal 06-16-2018 06:41 PM

Ezio tried to buy my account but i said no lol

Colin 06-17-2018 12:49 AM

I sparred for Westbrook and purposely lost to troll him during GST, haven’t been banend for account sharing yet though lol. (He paid me $50 to spar for him and get at least 3rd, get scammed kid lol)

Westbrook Graal 06-17-2018 12:52 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 813575)
I sparred for Westbrook and purposely lost to troll him during GST, haven’t been banend for account sharing yet though lol. (He paid me $50 to spar for him and get at least 3rd, get scammed kid lol)

I disagree. Infact it was you who begged me to spar, not the other way around. You said and i quote
"Yo west bro, some ppl been telling me ur a top pc or something and i really want to impress mew by dropping 12 hits vs good teams so if u do it on my acc i'll give u 40USD and unban you from clandestine discor/d."

Im gonna keep it real with you chief, if it wasnt for the fact u included that gay ass server thallen runs i would have done it lol

Rusix 06-17-2018 04:24 AM

That reminds me, Are you done walking your dog Westbrook? Last time I remember you asked me for a series. Was busy at work so I told you I'd pm you when I had time. I then PM'd u later and the next day. You didn't reply. I PM'd you the second day and you said you was walking your dog and you never got back with me.


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