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Phenalix 04-23-2018 08:22 PM

Trump
 
I'm glad trump allows us to make meme about him lol. What a nonsense

Pokki 04-23-2018 08:23 PM

what

Sawyer 04-23-2018 08:32 PM

well if he took away our free speech we'd be in trouble huh

TomatoPanda 04-24-2018 06:14 AM

Luckily its not trump trying to take your free speech away its the commies and socialist democrats.

Colleges are pathetic now cause of them.
Safe spaces
Riots
Safe speech
Micro aggressions

No wonder why every non-european world leader didnt take obama seriously.

Darkk 04-24-2018 06:20 AM

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Posted by Sawyer (Post 810422)
well if he took away our free speech

Freedom of speech? Something these forums don’t allow us

Kamaeru 04-24-2018 09:42 AM

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Luckily its not trump trying to take your free speech away its the commies and socialist democrats.
The craziest thing about cultural marxism is that they actually believe they're helping the world by making it worse. I saw this article today where they openly admitted they want to block the sun out with shades to "stop climate change". I swear when the end of the human race comes to pass, it will be one of these well-intentioned geniuses who causes it, not war or nuclear disaster.

The Doctor 04-24-2018 04:05 PM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 810495)
Luckily its not trump trying to take your free speech away its the commies and socialist democrats.

Colleges are pathetic now cause of them.
Safe spaces
Riots
Safe speech
Micro aggressions

No wonder why every non-european world leader didnt take obama seriously.

Have you ever been to college before? I attend one of the largest public universities in my state, and there’s a lot of political diversity here. Everything you read is blown out of proportion. I think if you stopped reading alt-right vacuum chamber websites and took a look at what happens in the real world, you’d be surprised.

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Friendly reminder Bomy Island is friendly to politically incorrect banter, criticism of staff, etc. You can come online and call me ad-hominems and I won't ban you. Capitalism is also a primary feature of the server.



The craziest thing about cultural marxism is that they actually believe they're helping the world by making it worse. I saw this article today where they openly admitted they want to block the sun out with shades to "stop climate change". I swear when the end of the human race comes to pass, it will be one of these well-intentioned geniuses who causes it, not war or nuclear disaster.

And I read an article about someone who thought that the democrats had a child sex ring in a pizza joint and came in, weapons blaring. What’s your point? There’s crazies everywhere.

5hift 04-24-2018 04:09 PM

Riveting political commentary.

This is the kind of content I signed up for here.

Kamaeru 04-24-2018 06:58 PM

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I read an article about someone who thought that the democrats had a child sex ring in a pizza joint and came in, weapons blaring. What’s your point? There’s crazies everywhere.

I think if you stopped reading alt-right vacuum chamber websites and took a look at what happens in the real world, you’d be surprised.

What if I told you that Washington DC has the highest number of pedo ring busts than any other place in the US. Why do you think that is? Seems like something we should be concerned about and it seems like the stuff you read in an article is just trying to sweep it under a rug. That's how it looks when you take a look at what happens in the real world. In real life there is a pedo under the rafters and he's gonna grab you and pull you under. I just thought of that, and it's pretty true.

https://www.graalians.com/forums/att...1&d=1524593244

5hift 04-24-2018 09:00 PM

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Posted by Kamaeru (Post 810522)
I think if you stopped reading alt-right vacuum chamber websites and took a look at what happens in the real world, you’d be surprised.

What if I told you that Washington DC has the highest number of pedo ring busts than any other place in the US. Why do you think that is? Seems like something we should be concerned about and it seems like the stuff you read in an article is just trying to sweep it under a rug. That's how it looks when you take a look at what happens in the real world. In real life there is a pedo under the rafters and he's gonna grab you and pull you under. I just thought of that, and it's pretty true.

What an absolutely asinine argument. What exactly is this supposed to prove?

Are we supposed to assume that every democrat is a pedo? That every cop is a trigger-happy maniac? That every movie star is a sexual predator?

Quit chocking yourself with BS like this. Some people are shady as hell but that by no means every one else affiliated is guilty.

If you live your life thinking every person on the street might be a criminal you're probably not going to have the best time.

TomatoPanda 04-25-2018 12:20 AM

Love how he labled me as an alt-right supporter. Which college you go to doctor i know not all of them are bad but if its got any class that ends in studies or begins with gender you better rethink your choice.

Feminism now has destroyed the left all they do is throw protest left and right. Remember back when all that conservative speaker crap was happening with people like milo and ben shapiro I havnt heard a counter argument to anything theyve said yet from the left.
(the alt right did give them one though just not one I myself in favor of)

Most likely in 20 years the Democrat party will crumble. Same with the Republican party israels lobbyist done ruined them also.

Aftermath 04-25-2018 12:26 AM

mmm love me some graalians debates

lets see how long it takes til this thread is deleted/locked.

Ximithie 04-25-2018 12:43 AM

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Posted by Kamaeru (Post 810506)
Friendly reminder Bomy Island is friendly to politically incorrect banter, criticism of staff, etc. You can come online and call me ad-hominems and I won't ban you. Capitalism is also a primary feature of the server.



The craziest thing about cultural marxism is that they actually believe they're helping the world by making it worse. I saw this article today where they openly admitted they want to block the sun out with shades to "stop climate change". I swear when the end of the human race comes to pass, it will be one of these well-intentioned geniuses who causes it, not war or nuclear disaster.

bad thing is marxisim is on the rise when it's not supposed to be

Oh also one of my favourite Politic youtuber's are Ben Shapiro and he was not allowed to speak at DePaul University https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2iIAXp5KRo
because as he said the place doesn't give a sh*t about free speech and prob cause he is a conservative.

The Doctor 04-25-2018 12:47 AM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 810547)
Love how he labled me as an alt-right supporter. Which college you go to doctor i know not all of them are bad but if its got any class that ends in studies or begins with gender you better rethink your choice.

Feminism now has destroyed the left all they do is throw protest left and right. Remember back when all that conservative speaker crap was happening with people like milo and ben shapiro I havnt heard a counter argument to anything theyve said yet from the left.
(the alt right did give them one though just not one I myself in favor of)

Most likely in 20 years the Democrat party will crumble. Same with the Republican party israels lobbyist done ruined them also.

I go to Virgi nia Tech. We do have a Gender Studies class. We also had Steven Crowder come to our campus and talk to us. This is called political diversity. Explain to me why this is pathetic, as you describe.

I think your notion of democrats and feminists protesting constantly is blown out-of-proportion by the conservative media. I remember earlier in the year, there was one big march by feminist activists about stopping gender-based violence. That's it. And that's a protest I can get behind.

The truth of the matter is that crazy people on the left and right are blown out of proportion by the conservative and liberal media. Any extremist on any side is seen as repulsive to the other side. Most people are realistic.

Ximithie 04-25-2018 12:56 AM

Didn't anti-fa try to start a new civil war or something?

Areo 04-25-2018 01:10 AM

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Posted by Ximithie (Post 810554)
Didn't anti-fa try to start a new civil war or something?

not really. It was a few protests, nothing even close to starting a new civil war.

However, I don’t think looking at the left through the anti-fascism lens is particularly representative... it’s like looking at the right as though all of it agrees with Alex Jones.

TomatoPanda 04-25-2018 01:13 AM

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I go to Virgi nia Tech. We do have a Gender Studies class. We also had Steven Crowder come to our campus and talk to us. This is called political diversity. Explain to me why this is pathetic, as you describe.

I think your notion of democrats and feminists protesting constantly is blown out-of-proportion by the conservative media. I remember earlier in the year, there was one big march by feminist activists about stopping gender-based violence. That's it. And that's a protest I can get behind.

The truth of the matter is that crazy people on the left and right are blown out of proportion by the conservative and liberal media. Any extremist on any side is seen as repulsive to the other side. Most people are realistic.

I dont remember ever hearing about counter activities from conservatives when left speakers come to Vtech and talk. If that does happen please send a link to a source but when crowder went to Vtech to speak instead of hearing him out like sane people do your "Young Democratic Socialists of America at ******ia Tech" hosted their own discussion at the same time on the same day to protest his "racist" and "fascist" thoughts.

College is suppose to be the place where you listen to opposing ideas to your own to educate yourself better instead we have college students hiding in safe spaces in their gender studies classrooms talking about 86 genders.
You may not see it happening due to your schedule at your college doctor but its happening there to but on a much lower level compared to places like berkeley.

The Doctor 04-25-2018 02:07 AM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 810560)
I dont remember ever hearing about counter activities from conservatives when left speakers come to Vtech and talk. If that does happen please send a link to a source but when crowder went to Vtech to speak instead of hearing him out like sane people do your "Young Democratic Socialists of America at ******ia Tech" hosted their own discussion at the same time on the same day to protest his "racist" and "fascist" thoughts.

College is suppose to be the place where you listen to opposing ideas to your own to educate yourself better instead we have college students hiding in safe spaces in their gender studies classrooms talking about 86 genders.
You may not see it happening due to your schedule at your college doctor but its happening there to but on a much lower level compared to places like berkeley.

So that group voiced their opinions. They didn’t interrupt crowder. That’s free speech. I have friends who went to the Crowder thing, and nothing was interrupted.

And for the women’s march that happened at ******ia Tech, members from the group Turning Point marched with them and disrespected the march.

We could keep going back and forth, but the fact of the matter is that there are people on both sides of the aisle that make both sides look bad.

And who cares about gender studies classes? People can take that if they want. Just like people can take religion classes. Or classes on evolution. You may not believe in religion, or you may not believe in evolution, but those classes are still offered. Who cares what classes other people take? And I have no idea what you mean by safe spaces. If you mean an area where people who are LGBTQ can feel safe from discrimination, I see no problem with that.

Ximithie 04-25-2018 02:48 AM

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Posted by Areo (Post 810558)
not really. It was a few protests, nothing even close to starting a new civil war.

However, I don’t think looking at the left through the anti-fascism lens is particularly representative... it’s like looking at the right as though all of it agrees with Alex Jones.

Ya so they failed. Also I'm not really a big fan of alex jones i watch owen shroyer tho from infowars but alex jones is just for the laughs he believes in a lot of sketchy things which some might be false like when he said sandy hook's was a hoax and recently he admitted it actually happened.

Fulgore 04-25-2018 03:54 AM

Young people leaning left is nothing new, and likely won't change for a long time. As people get older they get more conservative, and this also is likely to stay the same. While it's overblown that college campuses are liberal hellholes, I still find that a lot of them are overwhelmingly left-leaning. I'd guess at the one I'm at now it's probably 80-20 or worse.

This isn't the issue.

The issue is that if you aren't one of them, you're wrong. If you don't agree with these people, you instantly become "alt-right nutjob #235230998" and all opinions and takes on any matter become void. Very few of these people are willing to hold a legitimate discussion about issues with people they disagree with, and even less are willing to do research and later return to make intelligent debate rather than waving signs at people and yelling. While this behavior exists on the right too, nobody can honestly claim it happens in anywhere near the same volume as it does on the left.

Ximithie 04-25-2018 04:07 AM

Kanye West is redpilling
I am surprised to see Kanye West leaning more right now and there are way more celebrities that I'm sure that also lean right but don't want to talk about it because of the hate they will get but it's easy being a liberal celebrity and saying these stuff because you won't get attacked for it then.

Areo 04-25-2018 04:16 AM

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Ya so they failed. Also I'm not really a big fan of alex jones i watch owen shroyer tho from infowars but alex jones is just for the laughs he believes in a lot of sketchy things which some might be false like when he said sandy hook's was a hoax and recently he admitted it actually happened.

That doesn’t mean they failed. It can also mean that the “new civil war” never was planned in the first place. The very people who picked up this rumor and ran with it was InfoWars, which is an organization which is not a reliable source. If you have information (articles?) about the threat of the new civil war or anything that said it was supposed to happen I would like to read them.

Sawyer 04-25-2018 04:23 AM

I actually had a speaker come in and talk to our college class about micro-aggression's . Was the most ridiculous thing I had to sit through. Nowadays anything you say can offend someone. That's why you should stay away from the media when creating your own political opinions. Most people don't fall on one side or another, but the extremists are always given the spotlight. To some degree you have to argue the other side because if no one does the consensus will be for example "All guns should be banned".

On you tube you see all these SJW cringe compilations, and Nazi hate compilations. It's just fueling the flames by giving the crazy extremists the time of day.

What I want to say out of this ramble is that the world isn't black and white, most sane people fall in the middle when it comes to being a Democrat and Republican in respect to political beliefs.

Ximithie 04-25-2018 04:42 AM

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Posted by Areo (Post 810583)
That doesn’t mean they failed. It can also mean that the “new civil war” never was planned in the first place. The very people who picked up this rumor and ran with it was InfoWars, which is an organization which is not a reliable source. If you have information (articles?) about the threat of the new civil war or anything that said it was supposed to happen I would like to read them.

I myself wasn't sure if this was true or not back in November i just heard it from a few friends at school but a few days later i saw articles where they just did a few protests like usual, but everyone know's that they still hate america and they want to start one but can't.

TomatoPanda 04-25-2018 07:23 PM

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 810569)
So that group voiced their opinions. They didn’t interrupt crowder. That’s free speech. I have friends who went to the Crowder thing, and nothing was interrupted.

Thats not free speech thats safe speech. If their not gonna even give the time and day to listen to the other sides ideas they need to stop blasting crap about people like Crowder being racist and facist.

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And for the women’s march that happened at ******ia Tech, members from the group Turning Point marched with them and disrespected the march.

source? I actually wanna see this if its true.

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We could keep going back and forth, but the fact of the matter is that there are people on both sides of the aisle that make both sides look bad.

Most of the left looks bad if thats the case have you seen the lefts politicians

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And who cares about gender studies classes? People can take that if they want. Just like people can take religion classes. Or classes on evolution. You may not believe in religion, or you may not believe in evolution, but those classes are still offered. Who cares what classes other people take? And I have no idea what you mean by safe spaces. If you mean an area where people who are LGBTQ can feel safe from discrimination, I see no problem with that.

Gender Studies isnt even in the same group as religion and evolution. What Gender Studies proposes gives no evidence whatsoever to what their teaching. Theres 2 genders making any more up to make people more happy is not healthy for them or for the country.
Safe spaces arnt any different then when we split colored folk and whites back before the civil rights movement.

Kamaeru 04-26-2018 01:27 PM

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Didn't anti-fa try to start a new civil war or something?

No but they sure showed a few suspected alt-right garbage bins who's boss

https://www.graalians.com/forums/att...1&d=1524745741

https://www.graalians.com/forums/att...1&d=1524745606

Ximithie 04-26-2018 02:09 PM

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Lmao they are a bunch of p*ssies who are too scared to show their face In Public.

Also Plant Parenthood must be stopped :)

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PigParty 04-29-2018 05:57 PM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 810611)
Gender Studies isnt even in the same group as religion and evolution. What Gender Studies proposes gives no evidence whatsoever to what their teaching. Theres 2 genders making any more up to make people more happy is not healthy for them or for the country.

I took a gender studies class and it was predominantly about social constructs. Gender and sex are different and often misconstrued terms. Sex is based on anatomy, gender is a social construct. Society creates expectations of masculinity for men and femininity for women. There's also intersex people that have both male and female anatomy, and they often face many societal issues because they don't conform to one gender/sex or the other. Many other cultures and societies also have more than 2 genders, including native Americans. Many European societies have less strict expectations and don't even consider gender to be an important characteristic.

The class was eye opening to some extent, especially with teaching how societal expectations are the cause of all this. Pink used to be the masculine color and blue was feminine, and now it's reversed.

Anyways, this is coming from someone who was forced to take this class as my literal only option. I'm also not a fan of the idea of being transgender as I feel that changing your gender is actually an act of conforming to societal expectations by admitting that if you feel a certain way or like certain types of things, then you must be of a certain gender. Guys can wear dresses. Girls can be strong and wear basketball shorts.

But really, people need to get over what other people do if their actions don't affect anyone else.

Sawyer 04-29-2018 06:53 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 810895)
But really, people need to get over what other people do if their actions don't affect anyone else.


big facts

Kamaeru 04-29-2018 07:13 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 810895)
I took a gender studies class ... Guys can wear dresses. Girls can be strong and wear basketball shorts.

But really, people need to get over what other people do if their actions don't affect anyone else.

Ok mr thought police, I'm sorry, I won't think the bad thoughts again. Please accept me into your cult I swear I'll never think the wrong thoughts again I promise.

PigParty 04-29-2018 11:41 PM

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Ok mr thought police, I'm sorry, I won't think the bad thoughts again. Please accept me into your cult I swear I'll never think the wrong thoughts again I promise.

http://i.imgur.com/JqItbYY.jpeg

Kamaeru 04-30-2018 12:56 AM

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Rusix 05-03-2018 03:36 AM

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Really lmao

Kamaeru 05-03-2018 04:28 AM

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Really lmao

Yeah, **** it


Ximithie 05-04-2018 09:28 PM

Unemployment rate just hit a all time low 3.9% lowest it's been since 2000 this is all under his administration.

Pokki 05-04-2018 10:22 PM

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Unemployment rate just hit a all time low 3.9% lowest it's been since 2000 this is all under his administration.

clap clap clap

CM 05-05-2018 01:10 AM

He hasn’t really done anything tbh

Ximithie 05-05-2018 01:32 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 811263)
He hasn’t really done anything tbh

Actually, he's ending the North Korea threat and working to make peace with them, black unemployment rate is at an all-time low, 3 Million job's brought back to America since he took office with about 200,000 job's coming in each month, terrorists In Syria have lost over 90% of there land, Trump blocked a $9 Billion dollar foreign aid that was being used for abortions, unemployment rate lowest ever since 2000. Has helped veterans in many ways, Hundred's and thousands of illegal immigrant's being deported each year. And he has done much more maybe not everything he has promised yet but he still has 3 years in office maybe 7.

Pokki 05-05-2018 01:35 AM

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maybe 7.

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stop right there please and thank you

Ximithie 05-05-2018 01:47 AM

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stop right there please and thank you

You guy's didn't believe that he was gonna be elected at all in 2016 and that he was just a clown maybe you guy's will be the laughing stock again in 2020.

Fulgore 05-05-2018 05:02 AM

Incumbent has won an overwhelming amount of the time they ran, he'll likely get another 4 if history says anything. Republican incumbent has never lost iirc.

captainhaxs 05-05-2018 05:48 AM

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 810515)
Have you ever been to college before? I attend one of the largest public universities in my state, and there’s a lot of political diversity here. Everything you read is blown out of proportion. I think if you stopped reading alt-right vacuum chamber websites and took a look at what happens in the real world, you’d be surprised.



And I read an article about someone who thought that the democrats had a child sex ring in a pizza joint and came in, weapons blaring. What’s your point? There’s crazies everywhere.


I agree with this. The child sex ring at planet pizza (because "cheese pizza" ) was a 4chan hoaxs. There trolls online trying to milk an extremist into doing something crazy for the entertainment value alone on both sides.

Don't be meme-washed sheep

Thallen 05-05-2018 05:56 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 811263)
He hasn’t really done anything tbh

compelling argument
  • credited by south korea for ending the korean war
  • african american unemployment at an all-time low (muh racist president)
  • women's unemployment at an all-time low (muh sexist president)
  • stock market reached an all-time high
  • mortgage applications for new homes are at a 7-year high
  • consumer confidence is at a 17-year high
  • ISIS has no land left to stand on
  • food stamp usage is way down
  • MS-13 is dying
  • 5-year lobbying ban happened
  • responded to syria's use of chemical weapons
  • ended war on coal
  • left the paris accord (disaster)
  • left TPP (disaster)
  • renegotiating NAFTA (disaster)
  • tax reform happened

that's up until and a little after year 1, we'll see what's in store for the next 7

Reign 05-05-2018 06:35 AM

i really do hate malcolm turnbull

Ximithie 05-05-2018 04:10 PM

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compelling argument
  • credited by south korea for ending the korean war
  • african american unemployment at an all-time low (muh racist president)
  • women's unemployment at an all-time low (muh sexist president)
  • stock market reached an all-time high
  • mortgage applications for new homes are at a 7-year high
  • consumer confidence is at a 17-year high
  • ISIS has no land left to stand on
  • food stamp usage is way down
  • MS-13 is dying
  • 5-year lobbying ban happened
  • responded to syria's use of chemical weapons
  • ended war on coal
  • left the paris accord (disaster)
  • left TPP (disaster)
  • renegotiating NAFTA (disaster)
  • tax reform happened

that's up until and a little after year 1, we'll see what's in store for the next 7

Seem's about right only thing that I don't agree with him on is him responding to Syria after a chemical attack it's because there was no proof that Syria did this chemical attack yes they have done them before but the most recent one I believe it was caused by rebels or terrorists just to start up more war between USA and Syria

Pokki 05-05-2018 06:47 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 811293)
compelling argument
  • credited by south korea for ending the korean war
  • african american unemployment at an all-time low (muh racist president)
  • women's unemployment at an all-time low (muh sexist president)
  • stock market reached an all-time high
  • mortgage applications for new homes are at a 7-year high
  • consumer confidence is at a 17-year high
  • ISIS has no land left to stand on
  • food stamp usage is way down
  • MS-13 is dying
  • 5-year lobbying ban happened
  • responded to syria's use of chemical weapons (opinion)
  • ended war on coal
  • left the paris accord (opinion)
  • left TPP (opinion)
  • renegotiating NAFTA (disaster)
  • tax reform happened
that's up until and a little after year 1, we'll see what's in store for the next 7

...

Perseus 05-05-2018 07:41 PM

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Seem's about right only thing that I don't agree with him on is him responding to Syria after a chemical attack it's because there was no proof that Syria did this chemical attack yes they have done them before but the most recent one I believe it was caused by rebels or terrorists just to start up more war between USA and Syria

You have no trouble saying that, but its the government with all of the fancy recon troops with NV goggles who know the full story. For some reason I doubt they would put cruise missiles in the air without knowing damn good and well who did it

Sawyer 05-05-2018 07:48 PM

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You have no trouble saying that, but its the government with all of the fancy recon troops with NV goggles who know the full story. For some reason I doubt they would put cruise missiles in the air without knowing damn good and well who did it

I just want to point out that Trump in his campaign was against any attacks on other countries, and was just going to focus on the US (Make America Great Again). The fact that he gave the okay on bombing Syria means that he must know something now that he is in office that swayed his opinion.

Basi 05-06-2018 01:05 AM

still voting for him again

TomatoPanda 05-06-2018 05:20 AM

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Posted by Ximithie (Post 811316)
Seem's about right only thing that I don't agree with him on is him responding to Syria after a chemical attack it's because there was no proof that Syria did this chemical attack yes they have done them before but the most recent one I believe it was caused by rebels or terrorists just to start up more war between USA and Syria

Trump was kinda forced to do it sadly the lobbyist from israel has most of the republican party twisted in their favor atm. If he did nothing hed have a hard time getting stuff past through the senate due to pressure from israels lobbyist on the republicans.
Israel wants apart of syrias land for their Greater-Israel plan.
The Democrat and the Republican partys are both crap sadly just in different ways.


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