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Xenthic 01-05-2018 12:46 PM

Bring back 1K hats
 
FP4 was found dead in an asian market and Dusty has been missing in action. The hype for the new guild system is dead and its never going to be released you can see examples of unfinished content ingame (zorbi waterfall since 2012 xd) that have just been dumped there. If you have been playing classic for a long time you already know this.

Towers are useless they're filled with brazilians with nobody to challenge them except the solo pker. We have had towering rewards removed and our amount of guilds we can join reduced to 5. Towering was a huge part of classic and its an all time low we have known about the NGS for what 2 or 3 years now? Why cant we have towering rewards back while we wait?

Towering forged great friendships and great memories, classic has always been good at being a social game.

Zetectic 01-05-2018 01:20 PM

#xenTHICC4Adm@n
All we need is a solution to stop BFM REVIVAL sqaud taking over graal again

Macbeth 01-05-2018 02:37 PM

5K hours accessory

may.oreo 01-05-2018 02:40 PM

Couldn’t agree more lmao,ever since the towering system was stopped I don’t think I’ve ever seen graal become more dirt boring than it is now,even with the lag towering somehow made it fun,ever since towering system was shut down the pkers went inactive,they stopped participating in gst,80% of them quit towering to become role players.Graal is becoming worse and worse of a game and it’s a simple fact.


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Rusix 01-05-2018 02:41 PM

Would be nice to bring back towering rewards. It's kinda pathetic to remove it when it kept towering alive. Like are you just stupid classic devs? Pretty much like removing all the Sharks prey from the world and expect it to live, Probably not gonna happen.

may.oreo 01-05-2018 02:44 PM

Not to mention while graal gets worse we have members of graal getting furious with the lack of care devs have for the server so now people are making their own games. Whenever somebody mentions a new game graal has been permanently banning those people who associate with anybody making a new game. Find it super sad how much these trash devs are just sitting back and chillin


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Rusix 01-05-2018 03:51 PM

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Posted by may.oreo (Post 806029)
Not to mention while graal gets worse we have members of graal getting furious with the lack of care devs have for the server so now people are making their own games. Whenever somebody mentions a new game graal has been permanently banning those people who associate with anybody making a new game. Find it super sad how much these trash devs are just sitting back and chillin


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We just have lazy devs, I seen people. Alone with no help make entire games more advanced and more detail and systems in 2 years as well as look nice while classic hasn't even got the basic **** down ever since it was released to the appstore

may.oreo 01-05-2018 04:17 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 806043)
We just have lazy devs, I seen people. Alone with no help make entire games more advanced and more detail and systems in 2 years as well as look nice while classic hasn't even got the basic **** down ever since it was released to the appstore



Yeah pretty pathetic


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Basi 01-05-2018 04:20 PM

graal is ****

4-Lom 01-05-2018 04:20 PM

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Ethacon 01-05-2018 04:26 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 806043)
We just have lazy devs, I have seen people. Alone with no help make entire games more advanced and more detail and systems in 2 years as well as look nice while classic hasn't even got the basic **** down ever since it was released to the appstore

Yes, that is true but part of it is the lack of motivation due to having to try pleasing us for free, with the only payment they get is gralats added on to a player account they barely play on. It is mostly Unixmad's fault for offering no payment that our devs aren't as productive as ones that get paid by actual professional companies.

And before you say that toonslab is an official company, technically yes, but it's run by 1-3 people including Portha who is a french man-child.

Lol, I would say sell graal to Nintendo but they would fire everyone, replace them with Nintendo devs, and make all the servers packaged into one game and make it exclusive to their own consoles, meanwhile costing 20-40$ for the 3DS and 40-60$ for the Switch.

Westbrook Graal 01-05-2018 04:44 PM

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Zetectic 01-05-2018 06:02 PM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 806060)

fixed.

SomeGuy 01-05-2018 08:36 PM

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Posted by Ethacon (Post 806050)
Yes, that is true but part of it is the lack of motivation due to having to try pleasing us for free, with the only payment they get is gralats added on to a player account they barely play on. It is mostly Unixmad's fault for offering no payment that our devs aren't as productive as ones that get paid by actual professional companies.

And before you say that toonslab is an official company, technically yes, but it's run by 1-3 people including Portha who is a french man-child.

Lol, I would say sell graal to Nintendo but they would fire everyone, replace them with Nintendo devs, and make all the servers packaged into one game and make it exclusive to their own consoles, meanwhile costing 20-40$ for the 3DS and 40-60$ for the Switch.

Why the **** would nintendo buy graal, they'd just remarket it as zelda online or just delete the game as a whole.

titter 01-05-2018 10:16 PM

couldn't agree with this more. I think the only way graal can really bring back its old loyal players is to really revamp the tower system (add rewards and such) and bring back the old event system (like when ET was a thing). now im really not one to **** on the new generation of graal players but i think we can agree that most of them are younger, and once they get bored with the codeshops and fashion shows, classic will lose a lot of its current playerbase.

Ethacon 01-05-2018 11:43 PM

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Posted by SomeGuy (Post 806102)
Why the **** would nintendo buy graal, they'd just remarket it as zelda online or just delete the game as a whole.

Just an example lol.

RyanB 01-05-2018 11:56 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 806043)
We just have lazy devs, I seen people. Alone with no help make entire games more advanced and more detail and systems in 2 years as well as look nice while classic hasn't even got the basic **** down ever since it was released to the appstore

Try to find a hardworking Dev that will do stuff without getting paid...

Jdas 01-06-2018 12:09 AM

Admins are gonna use the same lame excuse “1k hats were abused”


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Rusix 01-06-2018 12:16 AM

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Posted by RyanB (Post 806134)
Try to find a hardworking Dev that will do stuff without getting paid...

For one, Most of things in Classic really do not appear that much of "Hardwork" to make. Because well nothing gets added or it comes way too slowly. Secondly there is Devs that do free voluntary work and help improve games 24/7 all over the place. Infact it is not really uncommon for games to put up a form in hiring devs for their games as voluntary work to help improve their game. Just like it isn't really uncommon for YouTube videos to use some NCS Music in their videos.

Jdas 01-06-2018 02:59 AM

Also, it would be pretty nice to have castle as a tower again since it got its remodel


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J* 01-06-2018 03:32 AM

I left Classic after many years almost solely because they reduced towering to the husk that it is.
There is clear evidence that they are trying (all the nifty box fort themes that came) but even if the "ngs" does come (which i never had any hopes of it happening since announcement), it won't happen for a long time and more and more people are going to leave without the presence of a group competitive scene that also acts as a great social experience.

I get the notion of "lol hoo evn cares for hat? but as you can see from the "Brasil Tower Defence" that we have now, the hats were a big deal. Why were they removed in the first place? Too many of them? I don't see the purpose of removing them before "ngs" from both a gameplay and business standpoint.

alexx 01-06-2018 09:35 AM

you guys could rant for 20 pages about how bringing back hats would have all these benifits but the bottom line is, devs don’t care lol.
No point asking for improvements on the game that involve work because there very ‘busy’ making other great content like galaxy themed backpack accessory.

J* 01-06-2018 02:45 PM

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Posted by alexx (Post 806174)
you guys could rant for 20 pages about how bringing back hats would have all these benifits but the bottom line is, devs don’t care lol.
No point asking for improvements on the game that involve work because there very ‘busy’ making other great content like galaxy themed backpack accessory.


See you at the bazaar boys

CM 01-06-2018 09:34 PM

Guilds are such a big part of Graal, and it feels like they're just dead right now. I can only think of a few guilds that have actually stuck together for a while (CD, NightOwls, etc.) but other than that there really isn't anything much to guilds anymore. I do agree that the tag restriction and removing tower awards literally years before the NGS is released was a very poor decision from a developing standpoint. Guilds were already pretty bland even when we had towering awards but now they're literally just chat rooms and it's kinda sad. Only guild stuff you can do anymore is GS which nobody does until GST, and towering which is no longer competitive. Social guilds are flourishing at the moment but even many of them are dying because players are quitting. I remember when players like Squiggles and Ryan would host events, giving something new to the game. When I asked why they stopped, they just say they feel like there's nothing for them to do on Graal anymore. The dying guild system is starting to affect many social guilds and now people who actually did something different for the game are disappearing.

Force 01-07-2018 06:02 AM

Get over yourselves. Classic is making more money now than it ever has before, so your complaints mean nothing. Go ahead and quit playing if you don't like it anymore. There's more to life, ya know? Nothing will ever live up to the glory days you have in your heads anyway.

Spoiler
Or keep wasting your time on a game you don't enjoy just so that you can feel superior by complaining about it. Just a bunch of people playing the martyr

iHot 01-07-2018 06:14 AM

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Posted by Force (Post 806260)
Get over yourselves. Classic is making more money now than it ever has before, so your complaints mean nothing. Go ahead and quit playing if you don't like it anymore. There's more to life, ya know? Nothing will ever live up to the glory days you have in your heads anyway.

Spoiler
Or keep wasting your time on a game you don't enjoy just so that you can feel superior by complaining about it. Just a bunch of people playing the martyr

Considering the content on this game is created entirely by players I think it's reasonable enough for players to request and also to complain about the game.

Zetectic 01-07-2018 10:19 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 806261)
Considering the content on this game is created entirely by players I think it's reasonable enough for players to request and also to complain about the game.

Yours logically make sense, but in reality that is exactly why we can’t be a threat to bring changes

(Bdo) another game lost like 30k players for devs being stubborn, when they lost their revenue, they ended up listening to the community and brought those changes in last 3 months to prevent losing any further.

Does unixmad have to pay anyone? Graals been running for years by the community. He can be kim jong un and still be fine.

Ryan 01-07-2018 12:19 PM

Bring back 5k and 10k but not 1k

Westbrook Graal 01-07-2018 04:07 PM

lets count our blessings guys
the devs sure know how to put together a capsule machine

iHot 01-07-2018 04:32 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 806269)
Yours logically make sense, but in reality that is exactly why we can’t be a threat to bring changes

(Bdo) another game lost like 30k players for devs being stubborn, when they lost their revenue, they ended up listening to the community and brought those changes in last 3 months to prevent losing any further.

Does unixmad have to pay anyone? Graals been running for years by the community. He can be kim jong un and still be fine.

Classic has talented devs and when content is released it's pretty high quality and put together for the most part. Even tiny features in the game seem to have some thought put into them which is more than I can say for other Graal games. It's too hard for people who don't do this full time to devote time to take Graal to the next level.

BrandonGraal 01-08-2018 04:25 AM

Ranting about it wont do anything either way. Game gonna stand where it is and thats.. that.

Bio 01-09-2018 12:57 PM

How about you PAY THE DEVS

4-Lom 01-09-2018 01:36 PM

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Posted by Bio (Post 806481)
How about you PAY THE DEVS

https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg

Xenthic 01-09-2018 03:52 PM

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Posted by Bio (Post 806481)
How about you PAY THE DEVS

im just asking for the old towering model to make a return and that shouldnt take too long to implement, something is better than nothing at all right?

We can keep banging on about staff not being paid but if you know you're not getting paid then why the hell are you being staff in the first place.

G Fatal 01-09-2018 03:57 PM

LETS HAVE A GENERIC ITEM :giggle: :giggle:

Ariona13 01-09-2018 04:54 PM

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Posted by Xenthic (Post 806019)
FP4 was found dead in an asian market and Dusty has been missing in action. The hype for the new guild system is dead and its never going to be released you can see examples of unfinished content ingame (zorbi waterfall since 2012 xd) that have just been dumped there. If you have been playing classic for a long time you already know this.

Towers are useless they're filled with brazilians with nobody to challenge them except the solo pker. We have had towering rewards removed and our amount of guilds we can join reduced to 5. Towering was a huge part of classic and its an all time low we have known about the NGS for what 2 or 3 years now? Why cant we have towering rewards back while we wait?

Towering forged great friendships and great memories, classic has always been good at being a social game.

:blush:

Rusix 01-09-2018 05:51 PM

Honestly. They do need SOMETHING to compensate for the lost of towering rewards.

I don't even tower. And I can see myself that towering has completely died.

What I would do is simply revise the towering system. By doing this.

1. Make rewards. Doesn't have to be hats, can be cool effects or a gani that changes twice every year.
2. Develop a system where only members with X (Preferably 600 hours or so) amount of hours can recieve the reward. Stops people from kicking out members and putting in friends to get rewards because they also will need to work heavily for it. Also would make players not use noobs as badly or harshly. (and make it here even if you get these amount of hours and are kicked. You still will recieve the reward for time used. And just because it is fair). Once first 25 people got to the X amount of hours needed, rest of people can get a small participation reward. Being gralats or a small item of some kind.

3. Make the 1k hour limit into 2.2k hour limit. So it should take 3 months per reward. So only actual towerers should get their reward.

The towering system can honestly be put into all kinds of ways. The method above would have some flaws. But generally speaking. There is many different ways towering can Infact be brought back. Which it needs to be.

Darkk 01-09-2018 08:28 PM

Towering died before hats were removed, considering every guild on the map had a truce lol. So does it really matter

TomatoPanda 01-09-2018 09:45 PM

Let's make a GoFundMe page for dusty and fp4 so they cant use the "I dont get paid excuss"

Instead of buying gralat packs donate to dusty and fp4 now to get QUALITY content released!

2 Months Later...
*gets blacklisted and email from portha threatening a lawsuit*

WaFFL3Cake 01-09-2018 11:35 PM

I'm an advocate for bringing back 5k hats.
It's become clear that most towerers need incentive in the form of an exclusive item to do their thing.

Towering is more fun the longer it takes. I feel more like a member and I form stronger friendships & memories if I'm towering with a group for a year+ rather than a few months. The loop around being that reaching 5k hours takes a lot longer than 1k (obviously).

Bio 01-10-2018 11:54 AM

everyone wants it back pretty much

G Fatal 01-10-2018 06:13 PM

While they are at it throw the alltime leaderboard back up.
:giggle::D

TWIZ 01-10-2018 07:22 PM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 806516)
Let's make a GoFundMe page for dusty and fp4 so they cant use the "I dont get paid excuss"

Instead of buying gralat packs donate to dusty and fp4 now to get QUALITY content released!

2 Months Later...
*gets blacklisted and email from portha threatening a lawsuit*

I think dusty gets paid

Shad 01-10-2018 08:18 PM

I don’t think 1k hats should come back. It wouldn’t be towering anymore because the same people/guilds hoard the towers and It’s not even fun anymore. It’s why they were removed in the first place. It will just become a hat sport again. I do agree that the state of towering at the moment is dead, but 1k’s aren’t the solution. They are too easy to get and an alternative reward system would be better. A much more difficult way to get them.

WaFFL3Cake 01-10-2018 09:50 PM

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Posted by Shad (Post 806588)
I don’t think 1k hats should come back. It wouldn’t be towering anymore because the same people/guilds hoard the towers and It’s not even fun anymore. It’s why they were removed in the first place. It will just become a hat sport again. I do agree that the state of towering at the moment is dead, but 1k’s aren’t the solution. They are too easy to get and an alternative reward system would be better. A much more difficult way to get them.

multiply that number (1000) by any positive integer [2, 5]. bam, more challenging, "competition is back", more fun, #loyalty

Bryan* 01-10-2018 10:18 PM

Should’ve kept 5K and 10K but change the rewards

G Fatal 01-10-2018 10:32 PM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 806599)
multiply that number (1000) by any positive integer [2, 5]. bam, more challenging, "competition is back", more fun, #loyalty

Lmao. no. guilds just wouldn’t bother doing 5000hours, bar like 1 or 2..hardly competition that.

If anything they should restart the alltime one up and have like a quarter season see who can get most hours. (Players from guilds gain points depending on where guild they are most in finish) then it resets after quarter to go again... this also with the addition of if they kick players it knocks points of player kicking the players, this way whoever is ‘noob recruiting’ to keep hold of fort will get punished and not get as many points, so would encourage to build a guild with friends than anyone.(points don’t deduct if player kicked has joined another guild and not been on tag for 24hours or so) Then they’ll be big shop with loads of stuff where players can stackup points for whatever (free upload token/certain hats/mount etc) also guildspots should be limited to like 20 imo makes it more interesting than being able to recruit loads and not really needing to kick.

Goodluck scripting xD

MJ4 01-10-2018 11:44 PM

Guilds are just towering for fun nowdays and some guilds are slowly dying. If you don't have a goal then it will start to become boring.

Towering is definitely fun but with no reward it will die out

4-Lom 01-18-2018 08:43 AM

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Posted by MJ4 (Post 806622)
Guilds are just towering for fun nowdays and some guilds are slowly dying. If you don't have a goal then it will start to become boring.

Towering is definitely fun but with no reward it will die out

For days they've been truces and people just 'hanging out' there... not really fighting.

Peggz<3 01-18-2018 04:14 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 807083)
For days they've been truces and people just 'hanging out' there... not really fighting.

That's what towering has come to really. It's all just about social reputation and it's sad.


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