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Bryan* 12-07-2017 02:59 PM

Players Sharing Accounts for Seasonal Rewards
 
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This is probably none of my concern but since the implementation of the seasonal leaderboards, players have been sharing accounts (some are blatantly obvious) and are still rewarded with gralats and plaques.

Attached to this post is the current #1 pker for the season. As you can see her flag changes from US and the Indonesian flag. I’m sure this has occurred for the other activities such as BK and Spar.

Rusix 12-07-2017 03:25 PM

What evidence do you have that suggest this is another player and not a VPN? Or they aren't actually traveling? No idea why you would VPN for PK I guess.

The main question is, why would it matter? Players allow others on their accounts all the time, seasonal things or just simple get on their account to be a troll. Regardless. Not. Much can be done about it. Pretty sure as far as my knowledge goes letting others on your account is your control. But it's just wise to not do so or only let people you trust on it

Bryan* 12-07-2017 03:43 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 803110)
@his post

GP’s are looking into it but this issue needs to be addressed since it’s against the rules to share accounts to gain an advantage over something. This also occurred the first time seasonal prizes were implemented with 2 players boasting about winning it on one account.

I doubt this player is traveling back and forth from Indonesia to the US in a short period of time. As for VPN, why would you do it for pking? I would understand evading a ban but for pking, makes no sense.

4-Lom 12-07-2017 04:42 PM

Yep. Report em in game for the same and they'll be under surveillance. We caught a few of the BK people doing this... who subsequently got banned after they were reported.

GOAT 12-08-2017 02:24 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 803110)
they aren't actually traveling? No idea why you would VPN for PK I guess.

A ****ty connection allows you to survive longer in the crowded mod flag floor. Gives them more time to hunt people at .5. That's if she pks mod.

Raeven 12-08-2017 03:52 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 803161)
A ****ty connection allows you to survive longer in the crowded mod flag floor. Gives them more time to hunt people at .5. That's if she pks mod.

She pks in mod and she lags like **** , you'd have to spam and predict a bit to hit her

Thallen 12-08-2017 05:00 AM

Never forget that in the very first season of the new rewards, the player that finished #1 in PKs (Sky) openly and admittedly shared her account so much that the news post actually cited the guy she shared with (Rewl) as the winner. She then made a status bragging about it on the day she got her trophy and went on to "dump" him a few days later.

Areo 12-08-2017 05:12 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 803161)
A ****ty connection allows you to survive longer in the crowded mod flag floor. Gives them more time to hunt people at .5. That's if she pks mod.

But it also stops you from really being able to 0.5 hunt... your reaction is delayed extensively, and often someone with a clean connection (or someone spamming a random direction) will get there first, from my experiences.

Aguzo 12-08-2017 05:36 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 803161)
A ****ty connection allows you to survive longer in the crowded mod flag floor. Gives them more time to hunt people at .5.

https://i.imgur.com/RtVKSQz.png
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Posted by GOAT (Post 803161)
That's if she pks mod.

https://i.imgur.com/2G0RTSV.png
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Posted by Raeven (Post 803172)
She pks in mod and she lags like ****

https://i.imgur.com/RtVKSQz.png

Rusix 12-08-2017 12:48 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 803161)
A ****ty connection allows you to survive longer in the crowded mod flag floor. Gives them more time to hunt people at .5. That's if she pks mod.

Also makes it harder to accurately hit someone lol, Or it can make you DC from the lag.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 803176)
Never forget that in the very first season of the new rewards, the player that finished #1 in PKs (Sky) openly and admittedly shared her account so much that the news post actually cited the guy she shared with (Rewl) as the winner. She then made a status bragging about it on the day she got her trophy and went on to "dump" him a few days later.

Ouch. Now that's cold

Alex R 12-08-2017 01:30 PM

Considering she's online during all time zones , and her flag is changing mostly during the evenings/mornings, suggests to me that one player gets on after the other one goes to sleep. if she was vpning , why wouldn't she just always pk on VPN instead of spending half the time on her normal wifi and half the time on VPN

Westbrook Graal 12-08-2017 01:47 PM

For me when i switch devices the amount of spar wins i have on leaderboard changes so idk lol. Like if i get 300 wins on pc and then go on idev they wont show up on idev, or a different pc im p sure. So idk how pks work but wouldnt it be the same thing?

And also, who cares about acc sharing for pk trophy? Pks is even more activity based then sparring and theres 0 skill involved so i dont see why anyone gives a **** tbh, who pks anymore lol

Rusix 12-08-2017 02:01 PM

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Posted by Alex R (Post 803200)
Considering she's online during all time zones , and her flag is changing mostly during the evenings/mornings, suggests to me that one player gets on after the other one goes to sleep. if she was vpning , why wouldn't she just always pk on VPN instead of spending half the time on her normal wifi and half the time on VPN

She wouldn't get as much kills if she was always on VPN lol

GOAT 12-09-2017 10:05 PM

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Posted by Areo (Post 803177)
But it also stops you from really being able to 0.5 hunt... your reaction is delayed extensively, and often someone with a clean connection (or someone spamming a random direction) will get there first, from my experiences.

Not saying you're wrong but
Why is Darkk a wall-sparer? Why are all strong delayers wall sparers? Same idea applies to MoD pkng.

My MoD pk experience is limited to less than a month total. I don't pk with my wifi because I can't run through people or swords. Since my wifi connection is stronger than my LTE it registers more actions being sent to my device.


I don't VPN, but my crappy Srint LTE is probably close to it. I pk mob areas with my LTE because it registers less actions. I just apply the same wall spar concept and go defensive. I will spam the flag area for my .5 noobs and go to the wall to wait for other pkrs running around.

That's my personal experience.

Areo 12-10-2017 04:48 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 803331)
Not saying you're wrong but
Why is Darkk a wall-sparer? Why are all strong delayers wall sparers? Same idea applies to MoD pkng.

My MoD pk experience is limited to less than a month total. I don't pk with my wifi because I can't run through people or swords. Since my wifi connection is stronger than my LTE it registers more actions being sent to my device.


I don't VPN, but my crappy Srint LTE is probably close to it. I pk mob areas with my LTE because it registers less actions. I just apply the same wall spar concept and go defensive. I will spam the flag area for my .5 noobs and go to the wall to wait for other pkrs running around.

That's my personal experience.

The same idea does apply, I just don’t think it’s quite as advantageous in pk as it is in sparring. Those with a moderate or higher amount of delay survive longer than the normal pker, but it isn’t uncommon for them to kinda just be mindlessly spamming and more praying for kills than actually being able to hunt them down. Though delayers with more skill can get around this by prediction, I find that most don’t have that kind of prediction.

Spamming the flag area works well for everyone, so I’m not sure if it adds any extra kills to have delay or not. I’ve also never personally had that kind of delay (or not for an extended period of time, to where I could practice with it) so I’m not exactly sure how it would change your ability to survive.

I also would imagine it depends how busy MoD is, because if it’s really packed I bet it would be a nice boost, but if it is slow than it probably would be to your detriment.

TomatoPanda 12-10-2017 05:44 PM

Delay on classic is great for pking at deadwood, swamp and mod with my experience with it when I played couple years ago. A disadvantage of it though is that its hard to actually take a fort but if your main goal is pking your fine. Only solution I can see to fix this is if you made it so people cant enter certain levels for example a fort if they got so much ms. This wont ever happen though cause itll piss the brazillians and malaysians off.

Weeno 12-10-2017 07:14 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 803107)
This is probably none of my concern but since the implementation of the seasonal leaderboards, players have been sharing accounts (some are blatantly obvious) and are still rewarded with gralats and plaques.

Attached to this post is the current #1 pker for the season. As you can see her flag changes from US and the Indonesian flag. I’m sure this has occurred for the other activities such as BK and Spar.

Those uploads make her looks like a thot and I bet she’s one irl too

Fanta 12-11-2017 11:36 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 803107)
This is probably none of my concern but since the implementation of the seasonal leaderboards, players have been sharing accounts (some are blatantly obvious) and are still rewarded with gralats and plaques.

Attached to this post is the current #1 pker for the season. As you can see her flag changes from US and the Indonesian flag. I’m sure this has occurred for the other activities such as BK and Spar.

Why do you even care about this lmfao?????

Raeven 12-12-2017 03:07 AM

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Posted by Fanta (Post 803496)
Why do you even care about this lmfao?????

Because its unfair and account sharing is illegal

Albie 12-12-2017 11:14 AM

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Posted by Fanta (Post 803496)
Why do you even care about this lmfao?????

Because cheaters shouldn't be awarded.

Ethacon 12-12-2017 04:07 PM

Why should anyone care about cheaters anymore? Someone cheated to get a trophy that you get to keep for a month? Good for them. A team cheated their way through GST? Oh well. Is someone cheating to dominate your favorite pking place? Whatever.

On other games, it's one thing, but this is just Graal.

Westbrook Graal 12-12-2017 05:58 PM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 803563)
Why should anyone care about cheaters anymore? Someone cheated to get a trophy that you get to keep for a month? Good for them. A team cheated their way through GST? Oh well. Is someone cheating to dominate your favorite pking place? Whatever.

On other games, it's one thing, but this is just Graal.

Thats the stupidest argument ever. So every 90 days theres a tournament with 64 teams of 7 people, and a team cheating their way through it is okay? You literally cried over not being able to log for some of graaloween so idk what ur point is. If somebody likes pking and somebodys cheating and ruining their experience they should be able to be pissed or annoyed. The trophy also lasts 3 months not 1. The furniture item is permanent. I dont expect non competitive graal players to really understand, but like imagine it you were in a LAT contest and somebody submitted somebody elses LAT to win. You would be pissed. Its the same concept.

Raeven 12-12-2017 07:45 PM

u dont even do any competitive sh*t ethacon Ofc u wont care

Northhh 12-13-2017 03:40 PM

cheating is cheatng if you can’t get stats yourself you plainly just suck imo, even with account sharing i still believe that Anyu girl shared her account no way she played more than 14 hours a day... besides the fact it’s just sad lol.

4-Lom 12-13-2017 05:44 PM

They should wait till the last day before they reset the scores for the season then block the cheater. Let them duke it out and work super hard... only to fail in the last few moments.

Bio 12-14-2017 12:04 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 803693)
They should wait till the last day before they reset the scores for the season then block the cheater. Let them duke it out and work super hard... only to fail in the last few moments.

sounds fair

Raeven 12-14-2017 12:09 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 803693)
They should wait till the last day before they reset the scores for the season then block the cheater. Let them duke it out and work super hard... only to fail in the last few moments.

Tho they deserve it thats still not okay thats worst than being an a**hole , you punish them as soon as you are aware of the wrongdoings. You are like telling a cancer patient he has cancer when he reaches stage 4 instead of telling him earlier when the tumors began growing

Darkk 12-14-2017 12:13 PM

Half of my pks weren't even me lol... Sue me

Bio 12-15-2017 11:57 AM

just ban them all please

Ethacon 12-19-2017 02:19 PM

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Posted by Raeven (Post 803762)
Tho they deserve it thats still not okay thats worst than being an a**hole , you punish them as soon as you are aware of the wrongdoings. You are like telling a cancer patient he has cancer when he reaches stage 4 instead of telling him earlier when the tumors began growing

This isn't really comparable because...
resetting scores is a real punishment for doing something wrong, and you are comparing it to a devastating disease that happens to people who did nothing wrong.

Raeven 12-19-2017 05:33 PM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 804235)
This isn't really comparable because...
resetting scores is a real punishment for doing something wrong, and you are comparing it to a devastating disease that happens to people who did nothing wrong.

My point is that why wait when you can reset them right away? let them learn their mistakes asap


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