Youtube kind of pisses me off
 

Youtube kind of pisses me off as a creator. I mean, I do it for fun. but lately it seems like they are caring so much about legal companies (music, video game) over Youtube creators. I am pretty sure this new rules and craps affected so many careers who does Youtube for living.

I mean I always hear big Youtubers complaining about how Youtube is coming to an end etc. It's kind of true. If this keeps up, I wouldn't be surprised, there's going to be another platform just like Youtube rise up and force Youtube into a competition. But until that happens, Youtube won't die.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1504500685

Why am I so mad? If you look at the yellow one, the title of that video is called "SLX Line-up" video. the bots just assumed title being inappropriate and start putting "not user-friendly content" over some of my videos.

What happens? They don't play ads = generates no money. and they are doing this without notifying me at all. If it was h3h3, they lost like 3k dollars already, cause millions of people didn't get their ads played..

I was already annoyed by how they give my money to Music companies, cause my Graal video used it.. So I don't get a single cent from most of videos with musics. But now they assume **** based on titles and description, it's ridiculous. I just feel so betrayed, even though I make ~$5 a month from it.

What do you guys think?

There are copyright laws for a reason.

Why not use royalty free music?

You know what I hate about YouTube? "Content creators" trying to hit that 10 minute mark by filling the rest of their video with a .jpeg. *glares at ricegum*

Upload on the "Hub" instead their rules are a LOT less strict :)

I used "free music" etc, and guess what. Those musics are now all copyrighted. Especially musics from Nocopyrightmusic channels.

I heard about that too. Forced by youtube. Or else they get no $. That explains why some 15 sec black screen at the end.

Music that doesn't want a piece of the pie for using it.

Music (and other content) get royalties for others using their content. Raido stations have to pay artists every time they play their song. It's no different with Youtube. You use someone else's work and they want part of your profit. Royalty free music would allow you to use music without having to pay out royalties.

Oh cool, I think i might have to do some research on that.

If music creators get 50% of my profit, that's fine. But 100 to music creator cause music appears somewhere in the vid is BS law I always hated.

And apparently, nowadays any negative vids about videogames can be taken down by game companies with the reason of Copyrighted materials. This seems manual right now, but soon will be flagged by automated bots

You know you can appeal these claims.

Usually when you do an actual person comes in to review these claims and decide whether they're justifiable or not. If you really didn't use copyright material then chances are they'll remove these claims.

Its a really tedious process for a dumb system but until they get a decent algorithm for finding actually copyrighted material in videos then this is all you can do.

Yeah appealed some big ones. it will take over weeks and months.
Right now, my entire channel is under copyright. Safest way, either use Game sound or my voice lol. No more rigged titles that bots will find it "inappropriate"

I do sound design for some theatre productions I work, and a common website I use for music is https://incompetech.com/.

As you may guess it's royalty free so hopefully this should help some.

That sucks but if it's their content they can do what they want (though I'm not sure if you can declare public use then take that back)

Your best bet would be to make a claim/appeal and in the meantime, stick to sources you know will STAY royalty free

yep thanks for all the response. will use royalty free musics from now on.

@Zet on the topic of youtube, where did that video of Qes rapping go? That sh*t had me dying lol

youtube has really ****ed over the whole platform with the direction its headed in, allowing people to falsely flag videos was one thing but allowing a bot to flag a title is ******ed.

i should still have it

YouTube copyright encourages original content or content your allowed to use. If you use content your not supposed to. You can recieve a copyright strike. These laws are set in place to protect the users and makers of their original content.

If you want music you will be allowed to use. Look up "NoCopyrightedSound" on YouTube. They have a large selection of songs you can use for your content without needing permission because they keep their content free to use. If you want good thumbnails try using cropped screenshots of your content in video. Or let's say you make a video of graal chest. You could get creative and make video thumbnails like you holding a gralat in the air as you got a chest or ect.

You can't blame copyright laws though. If there was no copyright laws TV shows, Anime,Music.ect could be redistributed by anyone and no one could make profits on their own content. For instance let's take Naruto.

If there was no copyright laws. I could post every naruto episode ever made at best quality and audio and paid for it. Did I make it? No. If you ever see a naruto or other anime thing online it's usually nonprofit. Only way you can make it profitable is if you edit it in some way to make it drastically different. And even that is iffy

I think u skimmed too much/didn't read, but ok.
1. Nocopyrightmusic or whatever. Like i said in pg 1 ****ed millions of people cause they end up copyrighting their songs = taking all of our profits. (And what does NCS do? Just removed the video..)
2. if a music appears in ur video more than 7 seconds, they will take all the profits no matter what ur content was. It's not same as naruto example. Not talking about people who steals contents, but people with original content with sounds gets screwed.
3. Their automated bot. I agree to certain point that they are trying to stop harmful contents going viral. But should be manually managed. Now i can't even type in stuff like IS THIS CHEATING, cause it will be flagged by the bot

Firstly. Try and understand that Google only has so many people to work for YouTube. They got things they gotta do. They can't monitor every single video every second 24/7 especially when there is millions. And I'm not exaggerating, millions of people uploading. Browsing. Ect on YouTube every second. And when serious events happen in the real world it's all over the news. Which Usually is all over YouTube isn't it? So yes a bot is almost a needed, while it is crappy now but they will eventually fix it to be more accurate. Will it be 100% accurate? Not likely. But in order to advance as a company it is almost a necessary step so they aren't pulled back by having to monitor videos.


NCS aka NoCopyrightedSound does a pretty good job actually at providing free music people can use. I've used their content a good bit for random projects. Never experienced an issue. While there may be a slip up every now and then and they report your content for copyright. Just appeal.reupload with a new song if needed. Not much of a hassle.

If a song appears in your video for 7 seconds and it gets flagged for copyright. You could've just edited it out. Or cut out the audio at those 7 seconds

Bots - title bots is absolutely ***. Hey im heading home rn, ill show u which vids got flagged. Just cause youtube got threatned by advertisers doesnt mean u put out a shtty bot that flags videos based on titles. And some of them arent even public vid lol.

NCS dont even talk abt it. I speak from experience. Just wait 3-4 yrs til u see music bot flagging all over ur ***. Cause ncs-contract artists submit to claim their work.

I use vid edit out feature on utube to do that. Now my vids sounds like *** and btw appeal thing doesnt work unless it was mislabeling. Theyre just gonna response no and some comm guidlines regardless that artist made it public in the past or not

Dont u think i tried all?

Ps. Even qes' rap beats got copyrighted. Tf man qes gotta speak up so music bot cant catch ya

It sounds to me like you are more butthurt over the fact that you got flagged for using copyrighted music than you are knowledgeable about the law.
In fact, many of the replies I see from you on this thread are unintelligent, misinformed, and close-minded to learning the reason behind why they do things.

Rule of thumb :: if the music is copyrighted, don't use it. If the music can be detected by software like Shazam, then be aware that a bot might flag it.

I agree with the fact that if you use copyrighted material, you should not make money -- it should go to the original creator. If you want to make money, you have to be that original creator.

As for title flagging, I don't view you as a credible source, so I disbelieve that's the only reason it was flagged. If you are telling the truth however, then appeal it.
If you don't like it, move to a different source or find a new method of income.

You agreed to these terms when you created an account, so that's another thing you should have been aware of.

But you're using someone else's copyrighted material without their consent. It doesn't matter if it's 7 seconds or 7 minutes. Who's to say those 7 seconds aren't the reason people are clicking on your video, hence the reason you're getting the ad profits? The content creators get to decide when and how their content is used. It's not like someone else can just use it and give them a portion of the profits without them specifically consenting to that use of their content.

partially true, but then again. the creator gave his permission for everyone to use, and then (i think it's a contract between NCS-creator) later submit to youtube to claim the copyright for music.

and i know by fact that it wasn't there in first place, because music bots usually catch and notify us in less than ~3months, usually 1 week avg. now these are 2-5year old videos we are talking about. the videos i made while i played graal and dedicated efforts into them. some of these musics also comes with certain country block.

i do understand the law, that's why i went for FREE USE music. later, they betrayed. is that hard to understand? or am I allowed to make musics and later backstab everybody. of course im butthurt. why does my video all have to get flagged for something they permitted to use, and then now it's something i have to fix it.

title thing, i appealed it, but i can't even send more than 10 appeals...
flagged titles:
"Zodiac Hacker"
"SLX Member Line-Up"
"Speedhacker in sideroom"
"Unholy Nation event 2"
"Unholy Nation event"
"Road to 10k week #2!"
"Trayquan and Joker Fight on Skype"
"Agree or Disagree? 2"
"Yoo Let's Prank This Kid"
"Agree or Disagree"
"don't slap me dude"
"who wants a shoutout?"
"Marry me, I am a shemale"
hey ****, can you see why im mad? these titles perfectly summarize the videos and they are 100% graal footage.
im pretty sure people who plays classic have seen/watched them in the past.

Most of those titles seem like they could hint at inappropriate things lol

Sadly yeah, so now i cant even type anything like those

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Its been downhill since they appointed their current CEO, I reckon its time for a sacking

you should take a closer look at the variety of creative common licences

some require special attribution forms, i usually look for CC0 stuff.

and just because music is on a nocopyright channel doesnt make it so

i am guessing youtube is using a very powerful algorithm that makes it possible to run a comparison worldwide and see where the sound was posted first and if it includes some form of licencing.

youtube/google is focusing on big data, it is of low importance if a small group of people dislike it as long as it generates controversy

did u even watch the vid? what you're saying Elk is related to the bump

Yea I saw DeFranco's video on that and it's pretty messed up. The hypocrisy is so blatantly obvious. Too bad no one can compete with Youtube to make them get their **** together.

yeah, DeFranco made more videos about Youtube Controversy before Casey-Mass Shooting one, but that one specifically pissed everybody off. And judging by comments, community definitely agrees that Youtube is degrading. Youtube is scared/nice to big companies, meanwhile the real creators of Youtube who has their lives on this gets screwed up with such BS reasons. This is why we always need a competitor.
if DeFranco didn't use too much clickbait/rigged titles, I can post older ones where he talks about variety issues that are present on Youtube right now. Youtube in general jumped way too deep into legal laws etc. So they're avoiding to get sued by legal companies.

Youtube has become garbage
>hickok45 is obscene content due to firearms
>all gun videos demonitized
>paid subscription services
G A R B A G E

Demonetization thrown around like candy on halloween nowadays

They need to improve their algorithm so it stops detecting videos for no reason and make people lose out on most of the revenue due to most views coming in as soon as you upload.
Hope they resolve that as fast as they can cus it really screws over content creators and that means I'll have nothing to watch

I don't even get it. Companies aren't representing the video content they are paired next to. I understand the uproar for being paired next to ISIS videos and the sorts, but violent videos, videos with lots of cursing or crude humor? The ad companies will miss out on a lot of advertising that could reach lots of regular people if they're that sensitive.